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FRONT PAGE  |  5/26/2019
TUESDAY, MAR 14, 2017  |  24 comments  |  3 commentaries
Most US Evangelicals Reject Female Leadership, Research Shows
Evangelicals in the US are less accepting of female leadership even than Roman Catholics, according to a study by the Barna research group.

The study found that though large numbers of Americans embrace the presence of female leadership at work and in politics, they are least comfortable, comparatively, with women leading the church. However, the vast majority (79 per cent) are comfortable with a woman in the pulpit, with more women than men (84 per cent vs 75 per cent) expressing this view.

By contrast, among evangelicals only 39 per cent say they are happy with women in ministry.

Among practising Christians in general, 62 per cent said they accepted female leadership. Surprisingly, this rises to 80 per cent among Catholics, who have an all-male priesthood, while Protestants are on 74 per cent. ...


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News Item3/15/17 3:35 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Regardless of location, God is gives plain and simple instruction.
Only those that go against God will have any issues with this
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News Item3/15/17 12:29 PM
Anne | the Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Feminists are often recognized by their forceful and angry choice of words. They usually resort to name calling and ridicule anyone who does not agree with them. Humility is not their companion. So called "Christian feminists" proclaim their words are Holy Spirit inspired and therefore to disagrement with them is akin to blasphemy against God. They have an unteachable spirit but claim authority to teach others. Their tongues wag, their fingers wag and under it all they are proud and bitter. They aren't really hard to see through. The tougher question is what to do with them, like grasping oil or the wind. Ellen G. White of the SDA church is a great example of "Christian" feminism and how that works.
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News Item3/15/17 7:14 AM
Carl haydock | England  Contact via emailFind all comments by Carl haydock
Sad that gays comment was removed though. Hang your head moderator
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News Item3/15/17 6:50 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Chris G P wrote:
.. women ...
They actually do have a very precious role. They are the ones who encourage their children in the Lord, that wisely and gently counsel their husbands to stay true to the ministry that God has given them and support them in the home, and instruct the younger ladies, and girls in the supportive role that God has given them. They are often the back bone of prayer and one to one witnessing in the church.
They are also very often the first resource for counselling of other women, on grounds of decency and order, as it is not always appropriate for a male pastor or elder to counsel a woman one to one, particularly not on intimate issues
Tremendous role and use, Chris, yet the average fellowship nowadays has been so plagued by individualism, and humanistic self-assertion that often such vital and beneficial roles are actually denied to any that would feel led to exercise them; the grounds for this not being biblical order, but 'self-protection', say we wish to exist insulated with our own ideas and activities undisturbed, media and entertainment included, rather than to be exposed to any contrary influence to that.
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News Item3/15/17 2:15 AM
Chris G P | England  Find all comments by Chris G P
by God's commandment, disaster results.

I know that in some emergency cases, in countries with widespread persecution like China, many pastors are women, as the male pastors are being arrested constantly, or in remote missionary situations where a single woman goes out, but these should be extremely temporary and rare, and young men, and older ones should be trained up very quickly to take over the role, and the women should take the back seat and hand over the position as soon as possible.

The modern Bible translations have not helped. I believe the original version of the NIV, for example is to be withdrawn, and only the "gender neutral" NIV is now going to be printed, I understand. This is not helpful, and further deception in the church will be the only result of this.

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News Item3/15/17 2:07 AM
Chris G P | England  Find all comments by Chris G P
I did not read Gay's comment, as the Moderator had removed it before I got to this topic.

However, I am sure she has no doubt been badly hurt by proud, authoritarian men.

It is also true that in the church we are not merely to regard women as the people that make the tea, or dish up meals.

They actually do have a very precious role. They are the ones who encourage their children in the Lord, that wisely and gently counsel their husbands to stay true to the ministry that God has given them and support them in the home, and instruct the younger ladies, and girls in the supportive role that God has given them. They are often the back bone of prayer and one to one witnessing in the church.

They are also very often the first resource for counselling of other women, on grounds of decency and order, as it is not always appropriate for a male pastor or elder to counsel a woman one to one, particularly not on intimate issues.

However. they are to recognise that God and His Word has declared for very good reasons that the leadership of the church is to be male, and that the position of pastor, elder and deacon is closed to them, and that the head of the home us the husband and father, and the wife and mother has the support role.

When a woman usurps what is not hers by

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News Item3/14/17 10:09 PM
Texan | Georgia  Find all comments by Texan
The Word is clear on this. If you can't say amen, you better say ouch!
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News Item3/14/17 8:37 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks Allie. ☺
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News Item3/14/17 5:20 PM
Carl in Greensboro | North Carolina  Contact via emailFind all comments by Carl in Greensboro
1 Timothy 2:11-12 KJV  Let the woman LEARN in silence with all subjection.  (12)  But I suffer not a woman to TEACH, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 KJV  Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.  (35)  And if they will LEARN any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Just a reminder: In the above verses Paul uses the verbs "TEACH," "LEARN," and "LEAD." Sounds pretty specific. "PREACH," "PROCLAIM," and "PROPHET" are not the subject of these verses and we do find women used in this way in the NT. I see two major mistakes when it comes to the modern interpretation of this subject: 1) some women go overboard when they believe that their are no distinctions nor limitations on how the Lord can use them in advancing His Gospel and 2) many men go overboard by ignoring and refusing to use the obvious giftings that the Holy Spirit has given to many women in their local assemblies. That last point is made more prominent when the majority of the people in the pews are women.

In glory (not here) both men and women are "kings" and "priests;" not queens and priestes

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News Item3/14/17 4:50 PM
Allie  Find all comments by Allie
Christopher000 wrote:
Thanks Frank...as usual, I probably responded a bit too lightly, glossing over what you quoted.
I thought your response was beautiful and true. Shows us ladies how we serve God and how crucial our service to Him is in relation to husbands. I think there is a lot of confusion about women because of feminism and lack of masculinity. Staying in scripture is the key.
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News Item3/14/17 4:48 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
I think the comment about misogyny says it all.
The Church in Australia has been ruined with this type of politically correct train of thought.
Feminists make me sick.
Blame everyone else but themselves for their own doing
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News Item3/14/17 4:43 PM
Wayfarer Pilgrim | Lubbock,tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer Pilgrim
No matter what their doing in ecumenical denominations, or the the reform church movement , placing women as the sole leader of a church is unbiblical. The bending of this premise has opened the door to acceptance of homosexuality, and then leads to accepting homosexual clergy. The death of a church body quickly follows. I'm not an ogre, just observant. But egalitarianism is even in our newer bible translations, the nrsv and niv tilt to a egalitarian supposition as if we didn't have enough trouble as it is, already.
Oh wait, homosexual marriage was actually the wicked child left on the door step , when denominations were silent when divorce raged through out American Christianity without even a alarm bell of things to come.
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News Item3/14/17 1:43 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks Frank...as usual, I probably responded a bit too lightly, glossing over what you quoted.
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News Item3/14/17 9:53 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Gay Allen wrote:
boatloads of Misogyny on here, how soon they forget the woman prophets, PROPHETS TAUGHT
No, Gay you have it all wrong. In Christ Jesus men and women are completely equal in all respects. But, women are not called upon to be men and men are not called to be women and God assigned different roles to each sex. Headship is not a sign of superiority, but simply of a different role in life. Surely you are not saying this scripture can be reversed in any way? 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Try saying that Christ is the head of God or that man is the head of Christ and you will see how carnal your thoughts are.

You somehow believe that submission to biblical mandates is a negative.

If you were a prophetess, then you would confirm your role as a woman and not try and usurp authority over men or feel inferior to men because they are meant to lead. A prophetess simply confirms the word of God. They don't change it.

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News Item3/14/17 9:20 AM
pennelope  Find all comments by pennelope
Gay Allen wrote:
as a woman who comments on here you get to learn real fast how women are seen as some kind of diseased animal that has to be quarantined,
if one wants to jump into the fire, don't be surprised if it gets a bit hot.
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News Item3/14/17 8:48 AM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Gay, you need to reexamine the scriptures, the Bible is clear on why women aren't to preach, it's a God thing, His order of creation, & hasn't nothing to do with a woman not being valuable or not smart, or not useable in His kingdom to be a Bond-servant of Christ.

One problem of the Moderen day error is that you see false teachers like Paula White, Joyce Myers & others, mudding up the waters, with their misguided agenda, against the one & only true, living God of the Bible alone, as they hate His order of creation & authority, as they want to make their own way, that is contrary to sound Orthodoxy Biblical Christianity amen.

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News Item3/14/17 8:47 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | Dittohead  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Christopher000 wrote:
Hi Gay, I hope your day gets better. 12-18" of snow up my way today, so could be better here.
Anyway, I understand your comments in part, but I think the brush stroke was far too broad. I love the ladies here, as others do, and I would like to see those gone silent, come back. I don't blame you for being tempted to take a bite out of that Shiny apple. The way I see it is that if Eve had stood strong, who knows what Adam's choice would have been.
No, this is about teaching and preaching, a woman usurping a man's authority, both spiritual and in life. Where would us men be without your strength and resolve? Where would we be without your comfort and encouragement? Where would we be without your love, your compassion, and your touch? How strong would we be without your strength and your smile of approval which gives us the edge we need to power forward in life? No, you are well valued, a welcome, necessary addition, and a compliment to us men who need you by our sides to fill in where we lack, and to strengthen our weaknesses.

Btw- 22 snowmen in MY Front yard. Spring comes NEXT week.
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News Item3/14/17 8:37 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi Gay, I hope your day gets better. 12-18" of snow up my way today, so could be better here.
Anyway, I understand your comments in part, but I think the brush stroke was far too broad. I love the ladies here, as others do, and I would like to see those gone silent, come back. I don't blame you for being tempted to take a bite out of that Shiny apple. The way I see it is that if Eve had stood strong, who knows what Adam's choice would have been.
No, this is about teaching and preaching, a woman usurping a man's authority, both spiritual and in life. Where would us men be without your strength and resolve? Where would we be without your comfort and encouragement? Where would we be without your love, your compassion, and your touch? How strong would we be without your strength and your smile of approval which gives us the edge we need to power forward in life? No, you are well valued, a welcome, necessary addition, and a compliment to us men who need you by our sides to fill in where we lack, and to strengthen our weaknesses.
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News Item3/14/17 7:42 AM
Buckeyes | USA  Find all comments by Buckeyes
(TMC) @Gay Allen
As a woman commentor here, I find your slander towards the Brethren embarassing and shameful. Bearing false witness is a sin- I’ve posted here longer than you and I’ve never seen any hatred expressed towards any woman, but by trolls trying to create division. Your abuse of Scripture I addressed here:
www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=47126
Women can’t teach in the church- if you don’t like that then you need to examine your heart before the Lord.
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News Item3/14/17 4:20 AM
Carl haydock | England  Contact via emailFind all comments by Carl haydock
Bit of hypocrisy there Gay. Sounds like you hate men
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