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FRONT PAGE  |  4/20/2019
MONDAY, MAR 6, 2017  |  26 comments
Russell Moore: Parents, 'Don't Be Shocked' by Your Teen's Sexual Sin
Moore, president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention said during his Signposts podcast on Friday that even though parents should acknowledge the seriousness of sexual sin, it's not helpful to express shock and outrage when they discover their teenager has sinned sexually.

"Don't communicate to your child, 'I can't believe what you did,' or even worse, 'I can't believe you did this to us,'" Moore said.

"Too many parents take their children's sin personally, because they don't understand the weight of sin and temptation and they expect their child to always make the right moral decision in challenging moments," he added.

When it comes to sex, the dominant view in American society is an unbiblical belief that sexual expression is "intrinsic" to what it means to be human, he asserted. ...


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News Item3/8/17 7:42 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
...or maybe not.
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News Item3/8/17 10:20 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Kev wrote:
Hey Brother Frank this is one of those delayed responses. That must be a very hard situation I can't even imagine. I'm glad you told her the truth and didn't cave in like I've seen even some pastors do from news articles where they change their whole stance towards homosexuality. You have told her the truth and you have showed her you don't approve of her actions. I think that is great you still have a relationship with her. You have handled that situation very well Brother I will pray for your family and try and remember you and your family in my prayers.
Thanks brother for your comment. I was saved when my kids were 8 and 10, so lots happened prior to that I am sure. I do feel like I honored God by my loving and yet very truthful response to her abomination. I agree with you about a lot of pastors, but the biggest harm I have noticed is the parents response to those things. They often “accept” their children’s behavior because they are afraid of losing them. Even though that is a possibility, IMO, it would be dishonoring to God, like the scripture I noted that started this off.

Moniker lady, you didn't upset me. Your response didn't make sense to me. It said things I didn't say or imply. I don't like nitpicking or rabbit trails!

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News Item3/8/17 10:04 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi Penny, I know it's not my business, but I think great exception will be made to the comment about, basically, what did the parents do to make the daughter turn to such sin. Maybe I'm reading your thought all wrong, but that's my impression.
No matter how hard a parent may try to do what's right and good, and to bring a child up in the ways of the Lord, sometimes things just go all wrong when the parents did the best they knew how.
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News Item3/8/17 10:00 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
pennelope wrote:
.. in a home where there are redeemed the husband and wife have peace, the husband is respected and the wife loved. and this is biblical and healthy
The law of cause and effect evidences itself in most of life's happenings.
So also personal overreactions to topics seem symptomatic of specific causes.
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News Item3/8/17 9:17 AM
pennelope  Find all comments by pennelope
Frank wrote:
Moniker Lady, I never said
that's what I mean. am I not your sister in Christ, even if I have upset you? you can address me as sister.

scripture says to both honor your mother and father and says to the parent not to provoke your children.

scripture says both that the woman would try to usurp the power from her husband and that the husband would be abusive and lord his power over his wife.

but in a home where there are redeemed the husband and wife have peace, the husband is respected and the wife loved. and this is biblical and healthy.

if your daughter was doing these things, she is clearly unsaved and then I have to ask what kind of relationship she had with her parents (most do not make such a drastic jump without previous problems). Without knowing the situation, I haven't a clue, that's between you and God, so its just an open question.

Maybe you've been completely wronged by all these women and have no fault? Then I pray you can forgive and be the instrument of Christ to them, and I will be praying for you. I'm not trying to be a thorn.

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News Item3/8/17 9:02 AM
Kev | San Diego  Contact via emailFind all comments by Kev
Hey Brother Frank this is one of those delayed responses. That must be a very hard situation I can't even imagine. I'm glad you told her the truth and didn't cave in like I've seen even some pastors do from news articles where they change their whole stance towards homosexuality. You have told her the truth and you have showed her you don't approve of her actions. I think that is great you still have a relationship with her. You have handled that situation very well Brother I will pray for your family and try and remember you and your family in my prayers.
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News Item3/7/17 4:02 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John, what is a parents hope when they don't even care what God Himself has to say on the matter; choosing their own desires over eternity itself?
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News Item3/7/17 1:29 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
John, if anything, I believe they would simply lie about it, claiming they went straight, but for most, it just results in estrangment.
Why would anybody in their right mind want to be disinherited? That does not make any sense whatsoever. Why would they choose estrangement from their parents rather than renouncing their perversion and going straight? That would seem pretty stupid.
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News Item3/7/17 1:21 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John, if anything, I believe they would simply lie about it, claiming they went straight, but for most, it just results in estrangment.
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News Item3/7/17 12:54 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
Hi John, not all is as simple as you want to make it. I can tell you that there are many estranged familys because the parents have made it clear that the childs lifestyle is not approved of or welcome in their homes. I can't imagine this has made a bit of difference to a single one of them.
They were not threatened with disinheritance though. If they had been threatened with disinheritance that would certainly bring them back to being normal heterosexuals because who in their right mind wants to be disinherited?
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News Item3/7/17 12:50 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi John, not all is as simple as you want to make it. I can tell you that there are many estranged familys because the parents have made it clear that the childs lifestyle is not approved of or welcome in their homes. I can't imagine this has made a bit of difference to a single one of them.
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News Item3/7/17 11:55 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Dolores wrote:
John Y, you are not married with children so you really can't begin to understand both the love and pain your children can cause you to feel.
Even though I am not married and do not have any children yet I know for certain that the only way to bring recalcitrant children who are fruitcakes back into being normal heterosexuals is to threaten them with disinheritance if they do not renounce their fruitcakeness and become normal heterosexuals.
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News Item3/7/17 11:14 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
pennelope wrote:
this one makes me scratch my head. there seems to be little peace in your homes. I know many loving families where the women respect their husbands and the husbands love their wives and this anomisity is not there. I pray for peace in your homes.
I want to thank all the below for their thoughts!

Moniker Lady, I never said I didn't agree with my wife. All godly men will seek the advice of their wives. I also am not the one that came up with the fact that wives will seek to control their husbands. That is the nature of most marriages. Anyway, the Holy Spirit said it here:

Genesis 3:16, Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Do some research on the word desire!

I simply agreed with my wife's suggestion. Otherwise I wouldn't have done it. My point was that we should do what scripture teaches us to do regardless of the consequences. If my wife asked me to do something that I considered immoral,I wouldn't do it.

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News Item3/7/17 9:53 AM
pennelope  Find all comments by pennelope
Frank wrote:
Thanks for your show of compassion. And I agree with you about how women desire to control their husbands.
this one makes me scratch my head. there seems to be little peace in your homes. I know many loving families where the women respect their husbands and the husbands love their wives and this anomisity is not there. I pray for peace in your homes.
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News Item3/7/17 7:10 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi Frank, I can certainly understand your initial deiemna and can't imagine the anguish you still must feel during a visit, and just her life choices, etc. I can't imagine the anguish, knowing that your child is in a lost state and knowing there's just nothing you can do as a parent, try as you have, I'm sure.
My take is that allowing her to come and visit is a good thing because you are probably the one and only link to Christianity that she has. I'll pray for her and hope that one day the things you have presented to her begin to make sense.
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News Item3/7/17 1:55 AM
Chris G P | England  Find all comments by Chris G P
I feel deeply for Frank and his wife, and it seems implied from her comment, Dolores from Texas and her husband, as they have to grapple with the problem of a child rebelling into adulthood, particularly in this matter of homosexuality and lesbianism.

Though I have myself not had children, I had a close family member, now deceased, who was probably involved in this issue, when in college, and though she never "came out", she developed mental problems, and lived a very lonely and unhappy life. She retired very early from a seemingly successful teaching career, and died very suddenly.

The only evidence for anything better in her life was that a Christian friend had been visiting her in her last years, and in her possessions, I found a psalm handwritten by her as a kind of bookmark in a Bible she had.

When I was at college myself as long ago in the 1970's, I saw how even then the LGBT crowd were active, and Christian youngsters sadly came under their influence and were corrupted.

As the LGBT community, tiny and yet with power and influence out of all proportion to their numbers, and with a large army of heterosexual helpers and allies, seem to get their way, we must pray for our children and family members, like never before, and preach the gospel faithfully.

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News Item3/6/17 11:40 PM
Dolores | Tx  Find all comments by Dolores
John Y, you are not married with children so you really can't begin to understand both the love and pain your children can cause you to feel. I was a very lost soul when I was a teenager and gave my mother a lot of pain but never once did I feel that she didn't love me which helped me to see God's love shining through her. Years later I came back to God and never once have I ever wanted to leave. I have exactly the same as you Frank, so my heart goes out to you and your wife. I hate her sin but love her. The time I first admitted it and saw it, I went into my room and cried for a long time. My husband and I both have had to accept it or lose her. You do what you have to do. Thanks for sharing that,it helped me and others that are in the same situation.
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News Item3/6/17 11:36 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Wayfarer Pilgrim wrote:
Frank,
I am so sorry for you and your family situation. But to The consternation of my wife, Eve's desire was to lord over her husband. And it is the main problem in all male and female relationships.
Thanks for your show of compassion. And I agree with you about how women desire to control their husbands.
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News Item3/6/17 8:54 PM
Wayfarer Pilgrim | Lubbock,tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer Pilgrim
Frank,
I am so sorry for you and your family situation. But to The consternation of my wife, Eve's desire was to lord over her husband. And it is the main problem in all male and female relationships.
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News Item3/6/17 4:54 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | RushBlush  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.
Jer6:15

And said, O my God, I am ashamed and blush to lift up my face to thee, my God: for our iniquities are increased over our head, and our trespass is grown up unto the heavens.Ezra 9:6

Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.
Jer8:12

And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
1jn2:28

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