Evangelical Leaders Reject Compromise on LGBT and Religious Rights
Compromises designed to safeguard both religious freedoms and LGBT rights won’t fly among many of America’s most influential conservative Christians.
Leaders from nearly 90 evangelical seminaries, publications, ministries, and churches—as well as Catholic and Orthodox clergy—signed a statement last month rejecting any legal efforts to protect sexual orientation and gender identity (SOGI).
“[We] believe that proposed SOGI laws, including those narrowly crafted, threaten fundamental freedoms,” they wrote as part of the “Preserve Freedom, Reject Coercion” campaign, hosted by the Colson Center for Christian Worldview.
The declaration follows months of conversations among Christian college leaders around the Fairness for All strategy, which would bring religious leaders and LGBT advocates together to try to secure satisfactory legal protections for both. Parties from each side of the conversation...
Two of RC's most notorious Irish predator priests that the RC "church" shuffled from Ireland to the US and foisted upon the unsuspecting laity . .
O’Grady, Oliver. Archdiocese, Los Angeles. Convicted. He admitted molesting or attempting to molest as many as 50 boys and girls, and eventually served seven years in prison for his crimes. He cost the church more than $13 million in compensation for the claims of victims and was kicked out of the country, returning to his native Ireland. He had been able to continue his abuses for two decades, beginning in the 1970s, because three bishops, including now-Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles, had covered up for him.
Smyth, Brendan. Norbertine order, various postings. Convicted. Smyth left a trail of sex abuse in Britain, Ireland and the United States, serving in Rhode Island and North Dakota. In all, Smyth abused scores of children from the 1960s to the 1980s before he was finally convicted of his crimes in Ireland and twice sentenced to prison, where he died. Ireland author Fintan O’Toole wrote that “each time he was sent to a parish, whispers of scandal would emerge and each time, he would be sent back to Ireland, and then posted off to another parish.”
More here: http://www.bishop-accountability.org/irish_priests_in_us/
There was an award winning documentary about a RCC priest, Oliver O'Grady, who was a habitual child molester, called 'Deliver us from evil' by Lionsgate. I think it may be available on youtube - it's just more exposing of what the RCC tries to cover up. This is only a trailer to the movie - [URL=http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/deliver-us-from-evil/]]]http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/deliver-us-from-evi..[/URL]
John for Jesus wrote: ----- Where are the verses that show what God thinks of sinners?! These verses show sinners are condemned and will face the wrath of God. However, John 3:16 says that He loves the world. That is how God feels about sinners! "and such were some of you"! Christian's were all condemned sinners at some point. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8
In Romans 5:8 it says for US, not all:
Matthew 20:28
28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
He gave His life for many that doesn't mean He died for all. The world in this verse clearly only includes all Christ died for. in the Bible the word world is used 7 different ways!
The 'US' are the same ones He prays for in John 17:9
Who is part of the 'world' that John is talking about in John 3:16:
John 1:29King James Version (KJV)
29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Don't see how Jesus has taken away the sins of unbelievers?
The verses I gave also show that the wrath of God ABIDETH that means right now on unbelievers.
God bless you Dave . . I would add . . and the callousness of Pell and his sympathizers beggars belief
Same horrific abuse in Northern Ireland
'Unspeakable cruelty and vicious abuse' - historical abuse inquiry releases damning report The greatest number of complaints relate to four Catholic-run homes in the North. Jan 20, 2017 Source: thejournal.i.e. http://www.thejournal.ie/northern-ireland-childrens-homes-abuse-3196344-Jan2017/#comments
A REPORT INTO institutional abuse at children’s homes in Northern Ireland has found that there was ‘widespread abuse’ at such facilities between 1922 and 1995. The Historical Institutional Abuse inquiry had looked into allegations of abuse at 22 such children’s homes across Northern Ireland. The largest number of complaints stemmed from four different Catholic-run institutions. At those four Sisters of Nazareth homes nuns were found to have been physically and emotionally abusive to children in their care, chairman of the inquiry Sir Anthony Hart said at a press conference to launch the report today.
Regarding infamous paedophile Fr Brendan Smyth, Hart said: “Smyth was able to carry out widespread sexual abuse of children, including some children resident in homes investigated by the Inquiry,
Dave, the abuse these children suffered is truly heart-breaking. Catholic Church confesses to a ‘shameful, corrosive’ history / OCTOBER 22, 2015
1) Sydney . . The Catholic Church has described its history regarding child abuse in Australia as “shameful, corrosive and complicit”. The church says it now expects its liability exposure to be potentially $1 billion on top of payments already made. Catholic spokesman Francis Sullivan said the church’s history was “littered with examples of cover-ups and crimes and of church leaders failing in one of the very basic tenets of their calling”. Mr Sullivan is leading the church’s support for a national redress scheme to compensate victims of abuse. The scheme has been recommended by the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. In a speech to the Australian Catholic University, Mr Sullivan said it was important Catholics did not succumb to a feeling that the commission or media were out to “get” the church. “The facts are we are at the very centre of the royal commission because collectively the Catholic Church is responsible for more abuse than any other institution in Australia, public or private,” he said on Tuesday night.
I was shocked that the Anglian church were not much better. We have about a dozen aborigines that were part of the stolen generation, Bruce who has fellowship with me, his family adopted 3 Aborigine girls when he was a youngin, so we do what we can, but being involved I discovered the Anglian church was guilty of brutal crimes against stolen aboriginal children and orphans of any nationalities. One bloke 70s now has told me horrific stories of sexual abuse and basically he was a child slave. I think anywhere you have kids under supervision there's a risk, I know anywhere that had provided these services for kids and systematically swaps them around like sex slaves, and unashamedly fills it's ranks with pedophiles and homosexual pervs, I know all these kids are in immanent danger. RCC fit the bill? And then there's those sick in the heads creeps that think it's humorous, very telling of the mentality of such people, and what occupies their minds.
Dave, The so-called "princes of the church" are a protected species . . Pell . . Law . . Mahony !
For his "good work" of protecting Catholic pervert priests Pell was appointed by the Jesuit pope as the Vatican’s new economy minister and head of the economy council, which was formed to "oversee and rationalize the Vatican’s finances.”
In case you didn't know, under Pell, the RC “church” enjoyed an enviable profit, for which he has been richly rewarded by pope Francis in this prestigious appointment!
Pell's expertise in finance made the Sydney Diocese a very profitable profit center, and his financial expertise will insure the vast monetary resources of the Vatican remain in their possession.
Aside from his money management skills, Pell is equally skilled at limiting the “church's” exposure in the matters of clergy abuse litigation which they continue to be embroiled in, a qualification no doubt that in the pope's eyes rendered him eminently qualified for the position.
Article: Royal commission into child sex abuse told of incredible wealth of Sydney’s Catholic Church, but no cash for alleged victims of sex abuse
Opinion - Cardinal George Pell obeyed canon law at the price of child victims / by: Karen Brooks / Source: The Courier-Mail – Australia Pell says not all suffered irreparable harm AS THE Academy Awards were presented and Spotlight, (the film about the Boston Globe exposé on the clergy and child sex abuse) won the Oscar for Best Picture, Cardinal George Pell began giving evidence at the child abuse royal commission from the Hotel Quirinale in Rome. Ironic really, as Pell’s adamant stance he “knew nothing”, “was deceived” and his consistent use of the “hierarchical defence” (it was someone else’s responsibility) was a performance in itself.
From confident and articulate to almost bumbling and vague, what became very clear over the four days of questioning was that, regardless of Pell’s protestations of innocence and/or ignorance, he never once asserted himself on any victim’s account, nor went out of his way to prevent what was clearly happening from continuing.
On the contrary, Pell did the minimum required at all times and then, it appears, dismissed it from his mind. Like the stories of Father Gerald Ridsdale’s abuses, they were sad stories “and of not much interest to me”.
But, after all, Cardinal Pell had a career to shore up.
Friendly note/reminder for anyone stopping by...not a single person here hates Roman Catholics...not a one. What everyone takes issue with are the churches false doctrines which mislead, not those mislead who are called to come out of her or share in her terrible fate. The people here grieve for Roman Catholics, but hate the system of religion that ensnares them.
Brains writes: I was hoping to encourage Christopher000 by having him see that the angry responses from the unbelieving relative are exactly what we should expect in this bible rejecting world
The tragedy is, with every vile comment Steve R. posts, he heaps up more wrath upon himself and he reveals how wicked his heart is. He gnashes his teeth at any who expose his satanic RCC for what it is - birthed from the pit and fueled by Satan.
Many come to Christian forums attempting to disguise themselves as 'Christian', but it isn't long and they are outed for what they truly are. May God have mercy, how horrible is it to fall into the hands of a righteous God who avenges His elect?!
JuneAnnette wrote: "prayer beads" can never calm a troubled conscience. It is a vain exercise. Pell's testimony at the Royal Commission reveals the shallowness of his religion. Article: The priests and brothers who preyed on children / The Sydney Morning Herald http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-priests-and-brothers-who-preyed-on-children-20160301-gn72tw.html
Oh yeah welcome to the club officially, Steve added you to the list earlier I see
Kev wrote: Prayer beads are not scriptural and have more in common with Hinduism then Christianity. Makes sense that someone like Pell would have some. I think he may have worse things to worry about if he has done horrible things to children: Luke 17:2 2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
"prayer beads" can never calm a troubled conscience. It is a vain exercise.
Pell's testimony at the Royal Commission reveals the shallowness of his religion.
Article: The priests and brothers who preyed on children / The Sydney Morning Herald
JuneAnnette wrote: Pell's "prayer beads" will do nothing to assuage his guilt . .
Prayer beads and repeating prayers over and over to 'be heard' reminds me of this verse:
Matthew 6:7
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Hindus use prayer beads as well as some other heathen religions. Not to mention they're mainly praying to Mary:
1 Timothy 2:5
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
The word of God says don't do it and Catholic tradition promotes such things, reminds me of this verse:
Mark 7:13
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Prayer beads are not scriptural and have more in common with Hinduism then Christianity. Makes sense that someone like Pell would have some. I think he may have worse things to worry about if he has done horrible things to children:
Luke 17:2
2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
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