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SATURDAY, SEP 3, 2016  |  29 comments  |  1 commentary
Female Pastor: Christians can fornicate

A pastor in Illinois has been making waves with a book that says it's OK for Christians to have sex before marriage.

Rev Bromleigh McCleneghan, a married mother of three and associate pastor for ministry with families at Union Church of Hinsdale, says single Christians can have sex as long as it's "mutually pleasurable and affirming".

In her book Good Christian Sex: Why Chastity Isn't the Only Option – And Other Things the Bible Says About Sex, she says being chaste is more about self-control and moderation than it is about abstinence. In an article for the Washington Post, she says: "I'd argue that we can be chaste – faithful – in unmarried sexual relationships if we exercise restraint: if we refrain from having sex that isn't mutually pleasurable and affirming, that doesn't respect the autonomy and sacred worth of ourselves and our partners." ...


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News Item9/12/16 8:36 AM
joan | uk  Find all comments by joan
So sad to read this report. This dear lady is quite clearly deceived.
Another spirit has lied to her in thinking she has the truth. A sure sign we are living in the last days of apostasy when many will fall away from the truth and deny the word of God.
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News Item9/11/16 10:59 PM
Terry | Asia  Find all comments by Terry
It is most important that the Word of God rules takes in our homes and in our Churches, so that we are able to discern that which is contrary to His Word.
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News Item9/6/16 10:59 PM
James K | Adelaide  Find all comments by James K
Forget the issue of whether sge should be a pastor. Her church denies the gospel, and so she should not be presented a Christian, let alone a pastor.
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News Item9/6/16 12:06 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
She is not considered to be a minister by God because Saint Paul stated only men were permitted to be ordained members of the clergy.
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News Item9/4/16 2:35 AM
Phil G | London  Find all comments by Phil G
She isn't a female pastor because biblically speaking there are no female pastors. The office of pastor is reserved for men. Biblically speaking therefore, she is a false teacher in rebellion against the Word of God. It says she is married and the Bible clearly teaches that the man is the spiritual head of the home. Thus for her to presume spiritual leadership, which is what a pastor exercises, over her husband is again a clear affront to Scripture. No surprise then that her teaching is contrary to the Bible and marred by serious error.
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News Item9/4/16 2:14 AM
BWS  Find all comments by BWS
"But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray so that they commit acts of immorality"...Rev. 2:20
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News Item9/3/16 6:36 PM
Kev | San Diego  Find all comments by Kev
English Rose saved sinner wrote:
Which bible is she reading.? One of her own making?
Probably the "Message Bible" lol. Has anyone seen that version?

It's horrible!

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News Item9/3/16 6:34 PM
English Rose saved sinner | southern England  Contact via emailFind all comments by English Rose      saved sinner
Which bible is she reading.? One of her own making?
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News Item9/3/16 5:53 PM
Joe USA | USA  Find all comments by Joe USA
Female pastor. Enough said.
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News Item9/3/16 5:11 PM
Dave | oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Not gonna read it, she is a fool, fool fool
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News Item9/3/16 4:35 PM
pennelope  Find all comments by pennelope
the blind leading the blind off a cliff!

no clue what sin is and no clue what covenant is.

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News Item9/3/16 4:16 PM
Norm | Minnesota  Find all comments by Norm
1 Corinthians 7
1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

Any deviation from one man and one woman United in marriage is fornication(immoral).

I noticed at one point she said how the offending couple need to respect each other, what about respecting God and His Word?

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News Item9/3/16 2:51 PM
Joseph Amuda | Africa  Find all comments by Joseph Amuda
I'm sure her bible doesn't contain "flee fornication". The Bible cannot lie; whatever we do, we will reap its fruit. Whoever misleads a young one the person's situation will be worse than if a millstone is tied around his neck and drowned in the sea. Let's beware.
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News Item9/3/16 2:25 PM
B. Warely  Find all comments by B. Warely
From Article;
""In her book Good Christian Sex: Why Chastity Isn't the Only Option – And Other Things the Bible Says About Sex, she says being chaste is more about self-control and moderation than it is about abstinence""

The religion of Liberalism again.

It is a religion of Bible rejection, and Satan's way of deluding the people. Why do people think that Liberalism is Christian or Biblical? The only explanation can be is that people with NO faith and thus are still under the dominion of sin, think (are humanly convinced) that they are (a) faithful and (b) Christian.

Clearly these are sinners who read the Bible and find a way of rejecting all the doctrines to carry on sinning. Thus their religion is not Biblical it is Liberal and worldly. Entire denominations such as the Roman Catholics and Anglicans/Episcopalian demonstrate that they are religious but not Christian.

Matt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."

These are the "deceived"

Dictionary on "chaste":-
"1. refraining from sexual intercourse that is regarded as contrary to morality or religion; virtuous.
2. virgin.
3. not engaging in sexual relations; celibate."

Not only can she NOT read the Bible - She cannot read the dictionary either.

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News Item9/3/16 1:26 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
Considering the source,a woman "pastor", it's of no surprise.
She missed the Scripture which speaks to the role of women in church and she must have missed the verses (of which there are many) dealing with fornication.
These are not hard to understand.
For ex:
1 Corinthians 6:18-20 - Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body....

Comprehension levels must be going to pot,now?

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News Item9/3/16 11:43 AM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Christopher000 wrote:
SteveR Wrote:
I looked up the Church, their website has a rainbow flag. Its a UCC affirming Church which means they 'affirm' and approve of the sodomite lifestyle. So its not a big leap to affirm fornication too...
Problem is that the world looking in sees the word, "Christian", but doesn't know what the true church is compared to these and that it's seperate and distinct. They see this heretic, along with the charlatain faith healers, prosperity, name it and claim it preachers, and they out us all into the same basket, saying, "There goes those ridiculous Christians again". In this case, woe to her and them for misleading the new Christian, the ignorant, and those searching.
What gets me Chris, is that many of these Churches were conservative Churches 100 years ago. So many of the congregants are just people showing up because good Christian grandpa and grandma attended and their families attended the Church for generations. They dont understand their church changed when they were making a living
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News Item9/3/16 11:37 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
SteveR Wrote:
I looked up the Church, their website has a rainbow flag. Its a UCC affirming Church which means they 'affirm' and approve of the sodomite lifestyle. So its not a big leap to affirm fornication too...

Problem is that the world looking in sees the word, "Christian", but doesn't know what the true church is compared to these and that it's seperate and distinct. They see this heretic, along with the charlatain faith healers, prosperity, name it and claim it preachers, and they out us all into the same basket, saying, "There goes those ridiculous Christians again". In this case, woe to her and them for misleading the new Christian, the ignorant, and those searching.

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News Item9/3/16 10:49 AM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Roger McIntyre wrote:
The people of that congregation need to get rid of that religious harlot (a so-called pastor) and get back with what is historically right.
I looked up the Church, their website has a rainbow flag. Its a UCC affirming Church which means they 'affirm' and approve of the sodomite lifestyle. So its not a big leap to affirm fornication too. imo- The people need to find a new Church, not just a new Pastor

btw- I too like Geoffs Scripture, but even that rebuke might be too kind because the Church in Thyatira did have some good traits

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

Revelation 2:19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Revelation 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Sidenote- The Church there continued till 1922 when the Turks deported the Christians

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News Item9/3/16 10:39 AM
Roger McIntyre | Vancouver, WA  Find all comments by Roger McIntyre
The Bible is very explicit: only men are to have authority in the Church.
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News Item9/3/16 10:37 AM
Roger McIntyre | Vancouver, WA  Find all comments by Roger McIntyre
The people of that congregation need to get rid of that religious harlot (a so-called pastor) and get back with what is historically right.
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