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THURSDAY, JUL 21, 2016  |  41 comments  |  2 commentaries
Atheists Try to Stop Schools from Visiting Ken Ham’s Ark

The atheist group Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) has sent letters to more than 1,000 school districts, warning them of the unconstitutionality of allowing students to visit Ken Ham’s newly-opened Ark Encounter.

According to EAGnews.com, the FFRF sent the letters to school districts in Kentucky, Tennessee, Indiana, West Virginia, and Ohio. The group claims that a public school field trip to the Ark Encounter, which is a life-size, interactive replica of Noah’s Ark, would “violate the Constitution and the First Amendment.”

“In this country, Ham is free to erect monuments to his bible, but public schools are not permitted to expose the children in their charge to religious myths and proselytizing,” the letters continued.

Schools, therefore, are in danger of facing lawsuits because of the FFRF’s warning. Many schools fear incurring large legal costs, even if they were to defy the FFRF ...


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News Item7/24/16 9:32 PM
charis2 | NC  Find all comments by charis2
How about a group called Freedom from Freedom from Religion Foundation. They seem to have a very dogmatic, exclusive, particular personal definition for freedom.
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News Item7/22/16 8:36 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Ahhh, got it...thanks. : )
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News Item7/22/16 8:21 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Hi Christopher,
You can download Expository Thoughts On The Gospel in the free eBook section of monergism.com.
Available in ePub PDF or Mobi.
Take care and God Bless.
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News Item7/22/16 8:08 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks for the link, MS. Just checked it out and looks like a lot of good stuff. I couldn't find Ryles series anywhere, but will dig around more later
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News Item7/22/16 5:53 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Ryles Gospel Expository Series can be read on-line for free:
monergism.com.
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News Item7/22/16 5:46 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
http://tinyurl.com/j33puel

Amazon usually has the best prices, not to mention used prices as well for extra savings. Here's a direct link to the JC Ryle gospel expository series, and stand alones.

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News Item7/22/16 5:33 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Rodney K. wrote:
Bro. John,
Yep. I think you've captured my thoughts on the passage. Like I said, I grew up with so much teaching on this passage in particular, that I question whether I will ever really understand it this side of eternity. Do you know of any good sermons or literature on this? I know I can search on SA by Bible verse. I will try that.
When it comes to the gospels bro, you can't go far wrong with JC Ryle's series of books on all four gospels. You may be able to dig them out in a secondhand bookstore. Most excellent reading. For a sermon, I would always recommend Dr Peter Masters of the Met Tab.
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News Item7/22/16 5:22 PM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
MS wrote:
Hi Rodney,
Regarding the parable of the 10 Virgins, one preacher who might be helpful.
Alfred J. Chompff
Watch Therefore. 8/31/2008.
Thanks, MS! I found it and downloaded it. I'll (hopefully) listen to it this weekend. I also found a couple by Henry Mahan and one by Dr. Peter Masters.
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News Item7/22/16 5:11 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Hi Rodney,
Regarding the parable of the 10 Virgins, one preacher who might be helpful.
Alfred J. Chompff
Watch Therefore. 8/31/2008.
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News Item7/22/16 4:59 PM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
Bro. John,

Yep. I think you've captured my thoughts on the passage. Like I said, I grew up with so much teaching on this passage in particular, that I question whether I will ever really understand it this side of eternity. Do you know of any good sermons or literature on this? I know I can search on SA by Bible verse. I will try that.

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News Item7/22/16 4:38 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Hi Rodney,

Yes of course I was only referring the wise virgins, those whom the Father has gifted to his Son, and whom the Son has redeemed, whom God has justified, and will most certainly glorify. And we ought to hang our heads in shame for any slight slumber, considering the lengths our Saviour went to, in order to secure our future with him. It is very much owing to our own lack of discipline that such slumber should even occur, seeing as we have every spiritual blessing in Christ, the indwelling of the Spirit, and his precious inerrant word to light our path. But thank God that he chastises his own, dear children, to bring forth the peaceable fruit of righteousness.

The foolish virgins appeared to have a lamp lit, but I cannot see them as having been truly born again by the will of God. I suspect that these are those who did not hear the calling of God by which he brings his sheep in; rather they might have heard the soft voice of an evangelist and were affected in their emotions, making some sort of profession, a claim supported by the team, and convinced that the new birth had come, without sufficient evidence for it.

Is that it, Rodney?

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News Item7/22/16 4:07 PM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
John UK wrote:
… my citizenship is in heaven, a stranger and pilgrim in this world, and a fool for Christ.
I love it!

John UK wrote:
...spiritual sleep or slumber, a backsliding, a loss of spirituality, a going through the motions of religion without the presence of the Lord Jesus Christ, a faith without much faith, no-one doing great exploits for God, little interest in evangelism, a belief in the Lord's coming but not preparing for it, getting tired of religious disciplines, lacking in true prayer, falling off from reading the word of God in favour of paperbacks, more interested in doctrinal niceties than practical Christianity....
Is that it, bro?
I think you nailed it, sir! Slumber (unfortunately) seems to be our (my) natural inclination. I reckon that the church in every age has had bouts of slumber. Could it be that the slumber Christ speaks of in Matt. 25 is worse than at other times? I have so many questions about that passage. The church I was raised in taught from it a great deal, but I'm fairly convinced that they were wrong in their conclusions. Anyway, there is reason for hope; God awakens His people from their sleep and comes to receive His bride!
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News Item7/22/16 3:47 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Rodney K. wrote:
A very G'day to you as well, dear bro. I didn't think Brits could be cranky.

Your comment reminds me of the parable of the 10 virgins (MT 25:1-13). When the cry was given for the return of the Bridegroom, they were all asleep. Thoughts?

Hello bro. Well I'm not really British, my citizenship is in heaven, a stranger and pilgrim in this world, and a fool for Christ.

Wow that's a hard question, Rodney. All asleep eh? Let me make a start, and you can continue.

The sleep can't be referring to ordinary, every night, sleep. We all do that. And God ordained that. So it must be referring to a spiritual sleep or slumber, a backsliding, a loss of spirituality, a going through the motions of religion without the presence of the Lord Jesus Christ, a faith without much faith, no-one doing great exploits for God, little interest in evangelism, a belief in the Lord's coming but not preparing for it, getting tired of religious disciplines, lacking in true prayer, falling off from reading the word of God in favour of paperbacks, more interested in doctrinal niceties than practical Christianity....

Is that it, bro?

Oh boy.......

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News Item7/22/16 3:10 PM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
John UK wrote:
G'day Rodney.
You could have put the period after cranky.
A very G'day to you as well, dear bro. I didn't think Brits could be cranky.

Christopher000 wrote:
...Doesn't matter with John...clocks haven't made it to the UK yet. They only know what time it is when the sun is straight overhead. otherwise, they're never quite sure.
Interesting: England being a seafaring nation had need of a reliable clock for navigation. It was an Englishman, John Harrison, who invented the marine chronometer, thus vastly improving longitudinal navigation.

John UK wrote:
...We are greatly in need of a God-sent revival, as most churches here are either apostate or they are just playing at being church, mixing the spiritual with the fleshly. There's hardly any what I would call TOTAL people...
Your comment reminds me of the parable of the 10 virgins (MT 25:1-13). When the cry was given for the return of the Bridegroom, they were all asleep. Thoughts?
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News Item7/22/16 12:45 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Rodney K. wrote:
Hey Christopher, pay no attention to John UK. He's always cranky before his first cup of tea.
G'day Rodney.

You could have put the period after cranky.

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News Item7/22/16 12:41 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
"religious myths and proselytizing"
That's a rather subjective statement.
One cannot separate the Ark from the account and one cannot be accused of proselytizing if they are merely presenting the Gospel.
No one comes to the Father unless he is drawn and repents.
Good news for the atheist-
Whom the Son sets free is free indeed.
The rest of you can stay in bondage if that is your resolve. No one is twisting arms. Moreover,no one wants to or is able to twist arms. No one make anyone a Christian and no one would want to if they could.
Steve,clever.
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News Item7/22/16 12:31 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hello to you as well, Andrea. Hope you have a nice day today, or had a nice day Not sure what the didifference in time is there. Doesn't matter with John...clocks haven't made it to the UK yet. They only know what time it is when the sun is straight overhead. otherwise, they're never quite sure.
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News Item7/22/16 12:12 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Andrea,Athens Greece wrote:
John,how are you my Welsh brother? Hope all is well,many blessings and greetings from Greece.
Greetings to you also from the Welsh Principality, Andrea. We are greatly in need of a God-sent revival, as most churches here are either apostate or they are just playing at being church, mixing the spiritual with the fleshly. There's hardly any what I would call TOTAL people.

I don't want to sound cult-like, however the Bible does teach total submission to Christ and rejection of the world. I was reminded of that when you mentioned those monks on Mount Athos.

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News Item7/22/16 9:45 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
John UK. Wrote:
We don't have such a problem in the UK, but then we can talk proper.
And I still think you'd make more sense if you spelt scense proper
Ok, well maybe I'd have more respect for my comically arrogant Welsh brother if he had spelt spelled correctly, but looking past that for the moment because I know 8/10 of you are challenged, let's examine: scense, scents, sense.
Yep, you're right. Couldn't figure out what the perfume comment was about. Would you believe me if I told you I was at college level reading/english in grade school? You'd never know it now. Not sure why I spell it like that, or spelt, so you understand. . All you peoples dumbness probably rubbed off on me over the years. Man, Now I'M sounding like a UKresident.
Talking sense now Christopher.

I realise that many American words have a different spelling than the UK original, but scense is not one of them. However you could be both right and wrong about spelt, especially if you use your free will to check out.....

spelled v spelt

I reckon you should go back to using vegemite for filling empty spam tins for use as ship anchors.

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News Item7/22/16 9:30 AM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Rodney K. wrote:
I've never been a good scpeller. If you scpell misscpelled properly, should it then be pronounced "properly"? I've always pronounced it "it". I'm so confusced. This must be what Jim feels like.
My High School English Teachers, Ms Pell and Ms Wright, always said everyone is entitled to make missteaks now and then
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