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FRONT PAGE  |  2/17/2020
SATURDAY, FEB 20, 2016  |  25 comments
'Gay'-marriage skeletons pop out of Rubio, Cruz closets

In the lead up to last June's Obergefell v. Hodges ruling that struck down state bans against same-sex marriage, a group of over 300 Republicans representing various conservative, moderate and libertarian viewpoints signed onto an amicus brief supporting Jim Obergefell and the rest of the petitioners.

Rubio's deputy campaign manager Rich Beeson, who worked as a political director for Mitt Romney during his 2012 campaign, signed the brief, as did the Cruz campaign's legal counsel Chris Gober.


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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Well it would be right grouse if one of these were to step down, or the nomination race for the republicans will be a foregone conclusion.
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News Item2/24/16 1:07 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Rubio, Mr. Gang of Eight....
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News Item2/22/16 4:02 AM
Dave | oz  Find all comments by Dave
Tmc, Thankyou bye the way. For we're told to greet each other with psalms.
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News Item2/20/16 11:52 PM
Dave | oz  Find all comments by Dave
:-) grouse, there you go
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News Item2/20/16 7:05 PM
Grouse about | Rousted  Find all comments by Grouse about
Jer.17
9The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it? 10I the LORD search the heart, [I] try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, [and] according to the fruit of his doings. 11[As] the partridge sitteth [on eggs], and hatcheth [them] not; [so] he that getteth riches, and not by right, shall leave them in the midst of his days, and at his end shall be a fool.

"Ask a conservative commentator, and they'll agree with the moderate, and add that the qore' referenced here is more likely a sand grouse...a bird which does indeed sit on eggs it didn't lay.

I think a lesson to be learned here is that we cannot anachronize modern meaning onto ancient words. Or Aussie into American. We really have no clue what a qore' was, in that it was a descriptive, not a scientific word.

It's as if we referred to birds in classes by their color. A "yellowbird" could be a canary, or it could be Big Bird. The qore' could be the partridge...but it could also refer to the sand grouse, the bobwhite, or any other bird that calls.

To determine the meaning in context, we need to consider the facts, and all we have here is that this bird sits on the eggs of others, and calls. That fits "sand grouse"

Yeah. Nerd bible ornithologist.

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News Item2/20/16 5:41 PM
Dave | oz  Find all comments by Dave
Lol trying to shave and talk text
Grouse=marvelous
Chuffed=excited.
I used to have a pen friend in salt lake you've reminded me of tmc, I forgot you guys hunt for grouse ey.
Lords best.
:-)
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News Item2/20/16 5:25 PM
TMC | Midwest  Find all comments by TMC
@ Dave
LOL! I think I get what you mean- but in "American-ish" (as an English friend of my Grandfather used to say) "Grouse" is a wild bird you eat and "Chuffed" is non-existant! What do they mean in Aussie-ish?
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News Item2/20/16 4:53 PM
Dave | oz  Find all comments by Dave
Tmc, it's grouse Ey, I'm still chuffed at the whole concept.
Thankyou Jesus
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News Item2/20/16 2:47 PM
TMC | Midwest  Find all comments by TMC
@ Andrea
You take care as well!
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."~ Romans 8:28

@ Dave
Thank you! I hope your Lord's day is Blessed and your Fellowship is rich!
"I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the LORD."~ Psalms 122:1

P.S. So very neat to communicate with Siblings in Christ from Greece and Australia in one day!

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News Item2/20/16 2:26 PM
Dave | oz  Find all comments by Dave
Lord bless. tmc,
Will pray for you all in service today. :-)
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News Item2/20/16 2:15 PM
Andrea,Athens Greece  Find all comments by Andrea,Athens Greece
Thanks TMC,I wasnt actually sure to whom Pennelope was addressing her question.You take care
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News Item2/20/16 1:48 PM
TMC | Midwest  Find all comments by TMC
@Andrea
I'm so sorry to hear the state of your country. To clarify and avoid hard feelings- Penny was addressing John, not you! Our laws here in the US say that any child of a US citizen, regardless of where they are born, is a natural born citizen. Thus, even Obama (despite much howling on the internet) is a natural born citizen!
harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen

@Dave
G'Day to you as well!

@Penny
"Every legal american I know produces the plethora of paperwork when asked."
Just so long as they are asked by someone with the authority to demand it. I certainly would not give my Birth Certificate or SSN to just anyone! We should not expect our candidates to make themselves more vulnerable to ID theft for the sake of a non- existant controversy that has already been thrown out of court in Iowa.

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News Item2/20/16 1:30 PM
Andrea,Athens Greece  Find all comments by Andrea,Athens Greece
Pennelope,I am not sure if your statement of " not knowing how my country is run" was addressed to me .I will tell ypu this though,we unfortunately do not run Greece.The Hellenic Republic is run by the Third Reigh! So is Europe,laws in favor of gay rights,Islam,foreign policies,arms etc.come straight from Germany.
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News Item2/20/16 1:26 PM
John 8:32 | USA  Find all comments by John 8:32
Pennelope,
The paperwork is bologna as a political argument. No one argues his mom was not his mom, so according to U.S. law since 1790, he's an American citizen whether or not he shows us his paperwork. And you still overlooked the main substance of my argument.
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News Item2/20/16 1:24 PM
Andrea,Athens Greece  Find all comments by Andrea,Athens Greece
Hi Dave,hope you are well,here all is well,trusting God!
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News Item2/20/16 1:06 PM
Dave | oz  Find all comments by Dave
Well G'day and God bless guy's .
Sister Andrea hope you're well mate.
Lord bless.
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News Item2/20/16 12:54 PM
Geff  Find all comments by Geff
Penny,
So George Washington was considered an American citizen by that clause, but Cruz isn't? Is consisrency to much to askk from you?
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News Item2/20/16 12:50 PM
Geff  Find all comments by Geff
Dudes, stop it with the conspiracy theories and birthirism!
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News Item2/20/16 12:50 PM
pennelope  Find all comments by pennelope
Andrea, thank you for your dose of reality in your posts. I see this happening, and this is what they are running here. open borders, foreign candidates. lost representation.

George Washington was a citizen at the adoption of the constitution, which is written in the clause as Brother Mike produced on another thread.

We do have laws on the books now that would correct the lawlessness on the land here.

They run candidates that are financed by the same companies enslaving our people.

and no, current leader probably never and a lot of harm in the world could've been avoided if the issue had been dealt with. apparently our senate over here likes to outsource their jobs too.

John 8:32 -- where do I get the bologna? because I know people personally who have done the paperwork. Every legal american I know produces the plethora of paperwork when asked. Why don't you know how your own country works?

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News Item2/20/16 12:39 PM
Andrea,Athens Greece  Find all comments by Andrea,Athens Greece
Pennelope,from what I know Obama could not have been elugible for president either.George Washington was born on British soil and was a British citizen.I hate to tell you this,but Americans do not choose ( by voting) the president.They do not have a say in the matter.Others do the choosing for them.As for the influx of foreigners the U.S.A can actually cope with it( at the moment). Greece receives thousands of migrants and refugees on a daily basis,with an economic crisis and no aid has been given financially from Europe.We have a workforce of about 3.65 million people.The rest are pensioners,children and unemployed.Our population is about 9-10 million.The U.S thrives on capitalism and is hanging by its threads.People are worshipers of mamon and your average citizen does not know what it means to lack.This is why people have left God and are very comfortable in their lifestyes.It will get far worse as God needs to break the stronholds of your country.Europe is in no better condition.They are actually closing tgeir borders to migrants and refugees.Greece,and Greeks cannot allow people to drown inthe sea.So,they are now sending NATO fleets to ' handle'the border.Its easy to say NO to foreigners abd close borders,but how does one allowpeople to die? The same countries,such as the US
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