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FRONT PAGE  |  2/17/2020
TUESDAY, AUG 18, 2015  |  75 comments
Christianity Booming in Cuba

As the United States and its leaders push for a democratic revolution in the country, Cuba has also seen an increase in another belief: Christianity.

Christian Today reported earlier this month that Cuba has seen a “Bible boom” over the last few months. In fact, almost 83,000 copies of the Bible entered the country through the International Missions board last month, according to Christian Today.

Similarly, The American Bible Society, which started the “Million Bible Mission” last year to spread Bibles across the world, gave about 60,000 Bibles to Cuba in 2014, according to Christian Today. ...


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News Item8/26/15 8:55 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
Jim Lincoln wrote:
What's purgatory?
Scofield's neo teaching on the millennium. striking similarities.
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News Item8/25/15 7:43 PM
Seeker | SA  Find all comments by Seeker
enough already wrote:
How long will Jim Lincoln be allowed to continue spewing out his endless rubbish?
As for this Lincoln Guy; he's got nothing to do now that the cigarettes are gone, and the wallpaper flowers have drooped and dried up. Why in the ole days one could watch Captain Kangaroo when there was nothing to do. But this Lincoln guy says ...
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News Item8/21/15 11:02 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Christopher000 wrote:
7, 8, and 9 from thesis:...
Luthers thesis was basically all about Purgatory and his disdain for indulgences, asking why the pope just doesn't release everyone out of love rather than for money.
good points Chris

What's purgatory? [URL=http://xcjournal.org/the-errors-of-catholicism/purgatory/]]]http://xcjournal.org/the-errors-of-catholicism/purgatory/[/URL]

Mike, I don't need to say anything more about either Spanish or English translations, the article, [URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_restating_obvious.htm]]]Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations[/URL] really states the --essential points-- for any Bible translation in whatever language.

By the way, if y'all are going to be sending Bibles to Latin America, you should check with your local bookstore. Mine has a fairly good selection including the Gospel of John in Spanish - -[URL=https://soundwords.org/bibles/spanish-bibles]]] https://soundwords.org/bibles/spanish-bibles [/URL] Por su amigos en Español.

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News Item8/21/15 10:21 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
7, 8, and 9 from thesis:
There is no divine authority for preaching that the soul flies out of the purgatory immediately the money clinks in the bottom of the chest.
It is certainly possible that when the money clinks in the bottom of the chest avarice and greed increase; but when the church offers intercession, all depends in the will of God.
Who knows whether all souls in purgatory wish to be redeemed in view of what is said of St. Severinus and St. Pascal? (Note: Paschal I, pope 817-24. The legend is that he and Severinus were willing to endure the pains of purgatory for the benefit of the faithful).

Luthers thesis was basically all about Purgatory and his disdain for indulgences, asking why the pope just doesn't release everyone out of love rather than for money.

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News Item8/20/15 7:29 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
MS wrote:
Perhaps if we ignore his trollish rubbish, he will soon tire of his baiting and fishing.
Nothing forces fish to nibble the bait.
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News Item8/20/15 3:15 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
BM, my Spanish abilities are minimal, but I can get the gist of comments made on Amazon about early modern languages of Spanish, and I did try to muster through some Cervantes when I was taking Spanish.

One can see by statistics what the most popular selling version of the Bible is in Spanish, and one can read on the Internet what people prefer, here is what Biblegateway had to say, "This revision of the RVR [1960] has been the basic text most used by the evangelical Spanish-speaking church. It is the most beloved translation of Spanish-speaking Christians because it retains the traditional style of the Spanish language." So, let's see if I can get the Wikipedia article URL correctly this time, [URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reina-Valera]]]Reina-Valera[/URL]

So, I have other opinions to back me up. Now, I think it is modern enough in language use because they would have revised it from earlier versions and even the Bible Societies kept the Textus Receptus as the main source even though they themselves preferred other sources because the Spanish readers wanted it that way.

BM, I don't consider what magical properties people think that languages spoken at the time of Liz I or Cervantes have. Most people even born in the last century give that a

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News Item8/20/15 2:46 PM
Moderator Alpha  Protected NameFind all comments by Moderator Alpha
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Sir: may I point out the two comments before yours? You'll notice my very first comments on this thread and the one with all the KJV comments on the old synagogue scroll, had nothing to do with the KJV?
And those comments remain, do they not?

I'll not defend or debate my actions as a moderator. If you believe your posts have been removed unfairly or I am playing favorites, I'd recommend you send an email to Steven Lee and lodge your complaint. (But I can tell you right now, you'd be wasting your time as well as his.) In the mean time, stick to the news article topic and we'll get along just fine.

For others who have been baited off topic; resist the temptation. Civil and topical are the reasonable rules.

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News Item8/20/15 2:40 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Jim Lincoln wrote:
... since I think any Bible translation before the 19th century useless to the man on the street, I shouldn't be drawn into the KJVO foolishness.

Reina-Valera - 1960 and later. ... on Amazon some buyers didn't like the language that dated back to Cervantes.

Enough already wrote"
How long will Jim Lincoln be allowed to continue spewing out his endless rubbish?

One may suspect Moderator Alpha wrote in Elizabethean English. Perhaps, along with Doug Kutilek, we should admit we 'need a translation of those words into [contempory!] English' for the average citizen to comprehend.

Regimental systems continually keep repeating lies assuming that eventually they will be accepted as truth. This method of indoctrination may be known also as 'brain washing'.

Mr. Lincoln:
The answers to your comments are there for anybody to examine subjectively.
Unless you are a spanish speaking bilingual individual your opinion is not reliable.
The fact is that the Reina Valera 1960 is as distant to Cervantes language, as modern American English is to Chaucer's.

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News Item8/20/15 2:35 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Oh, the Bible shouldn't be readable in either Spanish or English? Now that's rubbish?

As I said Moderator Alpha?

I will say as part of this thread, one could validly bring up the versions of [URL=http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reina-Valera]]]Reina-Valera[/URL]. For one thing I didn't know there were that many versions of them and it has an interesting history. May I suggest people look at the buyers comments on Amazon for this Bible. You will notice I did say that Reina-Valera - 1960 which doesn't match all my criteria for what I would want in a Bible but still is fine with me. It will get the job done as would I expect for the 1995 and 2011 ones would too, since they are in contemporary Spanish, I believe.

But that is up to the Moderators if they wish for that to be discussed and my comment before yours BM which you didn't like apparently, shows that I had no serious issues with Reina-Valera - 1960 and later. You will find on the comments on Amazon some buyers didn't like the language that dated back to Cervantes.

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News Item8/20/15 2:26 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
enough already wrote:
How long will Jim Lincoln be allowed to continue spewing out his endless rubbish?
Perhaps if we ignore his trollish rubbish, he will soon tire of his baiting and fishing.
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News Item8/20/15 2:08 PM
enough already  Find all comments by enough already
How long will Jim Lincoln be allowed to continue spewing out his endless rubbish?
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News Item8/20/15 2:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Sir: may I point out the two comments before yours? You'll notice my very first comments on this thread and the one with all the KJV comments on the old synagogue scroll, had nothing to do with the KJV?
--But-- since I think any Bible translation before the 19th century useless to the man on the street, I shouldn't be drawn into the KJVO foolishness.
Doug Kutilek wrote:
Most English speakers cannot read Greek or Hebrew (or Aramaic--the language used in parts of Daniel, Ezra, and one verse of Jeremiah). Therefore, if they are to have access to the words inspired by God in those Biblical languages, they need a translation of those words into [contempory!] English [or Spanish!] But we must be cautious here: the degree to which an English Bible translation fails to accurately, clearly, and fully convey the meaning and content of the originals, to that degree it FAILS to attain to its very reason for existence. Any obscurity, ambiguity or inaccuracy that exists in a translation--and is knowingly allowed to remain in that translation--is an affront to the very purpose for that translation's existence.
excerpt from [URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_restating_obvious.htm]]]Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations[/URL]
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News Item8/20/15 11:54 AM
Moderator Alpha  Protected NameFind all comments by Moderator Alpha
Jim Lincoln wrote:
moderator alpha, why do the other fellows get to talk about the KJV or the NKJV and I don't?
YOU are the one who baited this thread off topic, not the others. When your off topic comments stopped, theirs stopped. You've been around this board longer than anyone and should know better. Civil and topical are not burdensome rules.

Discuss versions all you want, just do it in an appropriate thread for the sake of our visitors who actually expect to read comments relevant to the news article.

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News Item8/20/15 11:08 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Jim Lincoln wrote:
... you should ask them what version of the Bible that they want.
This is pure modern humanistic approach.
One does not give people what they 'want', but rather one should teach them what is right first, in order that they might consciously be able to choose what is good for themselves.
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News Item8/20/15 11:01 AM
Remembering  Find all comments by Remembering
Mike wrote:
So you disagree with Moderator Alpha saying you should fish in the proper stream?
Did he not ask for all off topic posts to be taken down? Then why's he complaining when his gets taken down?
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News Item8/20/15 10:45 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
If you are working with a church group in a Latin American country you should ask them what version of the Bible that they want. if they do not specify, you could go of one of the above--but many Latinos will want the RVR-1960 and I see no reason not to give them that. It would be handy for all the members of a group to have the same version.
So you disagree with Moderator Alpha saying you should fish in the proper stream?
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News Item8/20/15 10:29 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Jim Lincoln wrote:
back to the main point...
Spanish Bibles LBLA & NBLH
La Biblia de las Américas is an original work
translated from the Hebrew-Aramaic and
Greek directly into modern Spanish. La Biblia
de las Américas presents the Word of God in a
clear and flowing style while maintaining
accuracy.
While La Biblia de las Américas uses the
Vosotros form of Spanish, the Nueva Biblia
Latinoamericana de Hoy (NBLH) uses the
Ustedes form of Spanish and incorporates
features to help the reader deeply understand
the text.
Following the same principles of translation as
the [URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]
, the LBLA and NBLH are
understandable to everyone and also suitable
for serious study and preaching. Learn more
about the[URL=http://www.lockman.org/lblainfo/index.php]]] LBLA[/URL] and [URL=http://www.lockman.org/nblhinfo/index.php]]]NBLH...[/URL]
If you are working with a church group in a Latin American country you should ask them what version of the Bible that they want. if they do not specify, you could go of one of the above--but many Latinos will want the RVR-1960 and I see no reason not to give them that. It would be handy for all the members of a group to have the same version.
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News Item8/20/15 6:28 AM
Conservative  Find all comments by Conservative
Jim Lincoln wrote:
moderator alpha, why do the other fellows get to talk about the KJV or the NKJV and I don't? I would suggest you remove a whole bunch of comments here!
May I point out many of your users use something other than the KJV and all I can say is this does look like favoritism. the comment you removed was not nasty in any way - - well except for being accurate it was an article from the John Ankerberg site to be exact.
Another whiny liberal whose feelings have been hurt!
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News Item8/20/15 1:13 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
moderator alpha, why do the other fellows get to talk about the KJV or the NKJV and I don't? I would suggest you remove a whole bunch of comments here!

May I point out many of your users use something other than the KJV and all I can say is this does look like favoritism. the comment you removed was not nasty in any way - - well except for being accurate it was an article from the John Ankerberg site to be exact.

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News Item8/20/15 12:41 AM
Moderator Alpha  Protected NameFind all comments by Moderator Alpha
Jim Lincoln wrote:
If it's a molehill have it removed from the KJV. How would you know if I answered something since Moderator Alpha is removing my responses
Must we close this thread to keep it from being hijacked into another version free for all?

Your posts are being removed because you are the one baiting off topic. If you want to discuss versions, do it in an appropriate thread.

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