A Pentecostal snake handler died Sunday (July 26) after sustaining a rattlesnake bite during a church service. The Christian Post reports John David Brock, 60, attended Mossy Simpson Pentecostal Church, which interprets Mark 16:18 literally.
The scripture says, "They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well," (NIV).
When Brock was bitten by the snake, he declined medical treatment. He died later that day during a visit with his brother....
John UK wrote: The devil is most clever. He began his attack on God's words when he said to Eve, "Yea, hath God said?" The devil is still attacking God's word, even on this forum. I hate the devil. It won't be long before Jim comes clean and confesses that he believes that the Bible in your hand (no matter what translation it is) is not the word of God, but that it "contains the word of God". This is dangerous talk, and we should all come against it, with great zeal and passion for the glory of God, and the edification of the saints. And BTW, he is mostly chasing after KJV-Onlyist cultists, rather than dealing with those of us who hold the TBS position on biblical matters. He thinks it makes him look good, but the truth is he makes himself look ridiculous and totally unlearned.
hey there brother john are you ok mate, you've been in my prayers, Mary our Lord be with you always bro. God bless
First, it is sad to hear of anyone dying from doing what most people would call foolish, though a good thing is that he might win a Darwin Prize for it. Second, I guess he forgot about the temptations of Jesus, where he said, you shall not tempt the Lord your God. Third, I read the Everglades National Park in Florida is having a big problem with pythons invading and eating up the native animals, including alligators. Not to worry too much, since the crocodiles have moved up from the Florida Keys area and are now even living on the west coast of Florida.
Yeah, quite a few of these types are really off the mark, Dave. Completely, and fully unbiblical, yet they have the largest churches and the largest masses of followers. Go figure. Not too long ago, Joel Olsteen called his wife up to give the Sunday congregation a message that was "revealed" to her. She asked, "Why do we worship God?" She answered by saying that we don't do it for Him, it has nothing to do with Him. We do it for us because it makes us feel good...it makes us happy. Hmmm. Anyway, it's just astonishing how many followers these prosperity, name it and claim it preachers, along with the faith healers, etc, etc, have and how fabulously wealthy their sheep have made them on the back of God, false promises, false healings, and seriously watered down, comprimised messages.
How dare anyone try and replicate the Apostles gifts, which were only used to establish the early church, with many signs and wonders.I have no sympathy and their zeal is not something to be admired, they are fools
A bit of topic but as far as charismatic preachers go that Creflo $ guy has the funniest name, I watched 15 seconds of him once, ah he was smugly grinning at the audience stating ," when dogs get together what do they produce?" Of course every bright spark in the audience shouts dogs, and he goes on about another 4 breeds of animals, and then he asks, "If Gods get together what do they produce? And if God created us in his image that makes us ?" I can't even allow myself to write his and the.crowds response, it was sickening. Creflo$ gotta be a Sanger short of a picnic,couple of Cows missing outta his top paddock! I on one hand think it not that funny cos he is a liar and leads people to hell, On the other hand most of his audience weren't to be saved probably
This is a case study in wrong interpretation of the Bible which proves that ALL pentecostal and charismatic beliefs are in error! They take all promised the apostles are for them personally. Error in hermeneutics.
I don't think cymbals are drums in any way. Cymbals are made of metal, come in pairs, so when they are struck together they make a high-pitched sound. Drums produce a low bass noise that can be heard for long distances, so they are used to send signals to those pagan gods in Africa.
Dave wrote: ..."this dude starts chopping at my throat..."
Hey man, that cracked me up. Kind of like when they would be exorcising the demon of pride from me and slapping me on the forehead while screaming,"dee, dee, dee, da, da, da, bo, bo, bo. Maybe I shouldn't joke about it, I guess, but I could tell some storys...
Dave wrote: Christopher, John right there with ya, But I just couldn't stand the unknown "tongues" mmHg head was forced down I was held on the chair and this dude starts chopping at my throat,tearing "demons" out of me and when I tried to stop this demonic type of worship this preacher dude tried to restrain me (cos the demons were trying to get me out of there according to preacher man). Well I did something I'm not proud of, I wrestled his hands of me pushed them away and had to just about knock the preacher Out to get outta there. Now I've been around the traps,drugs,crime etc and it takes a.bit to scare me, but these charismatic,Pentecostals shook me up, So yeah pretty freaky stuff,
Well, I think you did the right thing, Dave. And it made exciting reading, thank you. You should have shouted out, "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"
Wayfairer pilgrim wrote: Thank you John and good Sunday to you.
You're welcome, Pilgrim. The TBS is the most sensible position to hold IMO. They check out each new major translation and find it wanting. It's good they've only published one Bible in English and focussed on other countries, to get the word to them also.
Christopher, John right there with ya, But I just couldn't stand the unknown "tongues" mmHg head was forced down I was held on the chair and this dude starts chopping at my throat,tearing "demons" out of me and when I tried to stop this demonic type of worship this preacher dude tried to restrain me (cos the demons were trying to get me out of there according to preacher man). Well I did something I'm not proud of, I wrestled his hands of me pushed them away and had to just about knock the preacher Out to get outta there. Now I've been around the traps,drugs,crime etc and it takes a.bit to scare me, but these charismatic,Pentecostals shook me up, So yeah pretty freaky stuff,
"While perfection is not claimed for the Authorised Version (known in some countries as the King James Version), or for any other version, it is known that the translators of the Authorised Version acknowledged the Divine inspiration, authority and inerrancy of the Holy Scriptures; the fruitful use of their translation for more than 400 years is evidence of the Lord's blessing upon their work. It is the most accurate and trustworthy translation into English available and is the only English version published by the Society. In common with other major Bible publishers, the Society publishes the standard text of the Authorised (King James) Version, that of the fourth and last official revision, the Blayney edition of 1769."
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Just caught your post before turning in, Wayfairer. So their position is that currently the KJV is the most accurate Bible in English.
John of the UK, What is the TBS point of view on the scriptures? I tend to be a majority text guy, but that's because I want a whole bible as opposed to a redacted text. But , my opinion means little compared to biblical scholars or the study of textual criticism.
I was looking up "drum" in the Bible. It seems that the common english and other similar versions translate "timbrel" into "drum". From what I gather,"timbrel" is more like a tambourine. I think that there may be some justifiable concern over some of the translations,especially,when there is Scripture or certain words that are omitted. It's good to compare them and study the differences.They aren't all good. There are many references to instruments.I can't recall an instance of Jesus or the disciples partaking in a musical worship service. Maybe someone could correct me on that. I do know that there are many instances of music in the OT. I think that music can be used in service but really do believe that coming together to hear God's Word rightly divided is most important. And the best worship that one gives is through a life that lines up with the Word of God (through the power of the Holy Spirit).