Devil Is Keeping Evangelicals and Catholics Divided: Pope
Pope Francis has said that it's the devil himself who keeps evangelicals, Catholics, and Christians from other denominations divided, and rejected the notion that it's heretical to believe that all Christians are one.
"Division is the work of the 'Father of Lies,' 'the Father of Discord,' who does everything possible to keep us divided," Francis said in a video message to a gathering sponsored by the John 17 Movement, according to Catholic Herald.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Michael I'm sure you know, excerpt from, [URL=http://www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php?title=Witnessing_Effectively_to_Roman_Catholics]]]Witnessing Effectively to Roman Catholics[/URL] an interesting article by your fellow ex-Catholic, the material therein you know, but others might not. I think I picked the part to quote that agrees with your comment? Michael, I always wish you the best in presenting the Gospel
Jim Thanks for the post Since I live in a heavily RC area it will be a blessing to me
Even as a rightful dealing of the issues involved in this "Lawmaker: Fire police chief who released Duggar report" will be a blessing to those who love the imperfect Duggars and those hurt by sexual abuse
BTW the seriousness of God to deal with sin is something Rolfe Barnard dealt with in his sermon"
Make sure you have agreement on the meaning of essential terms of the Gospel because the Vatican has redefined many of its key words. To a Catholic: â€śjustificationâ€ť is not God declaring one righteous but the process through which one becomes righteous; â€śsinâ€ť is not always mortal because lesser sins do not cause death; â€śrepentanceâ€ť is not a change of mind but penance or punishment Catholics must do to be absolved of their sin and â€śeternal lifeâ€ť is not eternal because it terminates whenever a mortal sin is committed.
Begin with the Bad News
What does Godâ€™s justice demand as punishment for sin? In all my years of asking Catholics this question, not one has ever given the correct answer. The truth must be made knownâ€”God imposes the death penalty when His law is broken...
excerpt from, [URL=http://www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php?title=Witnessing_Effectively_to_Roman_Catholics]]]Witnessing Effectively to Roman Catholics[/URL] an interesting article by your fellow ex-Catholic, the material therein you know, but others might not. I think I picked the part to quote that agrees with your comment?
Michael, I always wish you the best in presenting the Gospel
Jim Lincoln wrote: If the Pope wants better relationships with other religions he had better start telling the truth about his own.
Jim Getting anyone entrenched in their cherished idolaterous perversion of Christian RELIGION to own up to where they are wrong and in serious frightful heartbreaking sin against God to the point they repent and go on to live by and preach the Truth of Jesus Christ they once sought to blot out is harder than pulling teeth. It is a supernatural work only God can and must do to save sinners
The salvation of Catholic people (and others too) is a very good thing to be concerned with BUT it is a burden we ought to continually cast upon God our Father in our praying lest wrongly trying to carry it ourselves it crush us under its weight.
We need to trust God, He knows the truth whether of not anyone ever admits it our not, and if by the grace of God we have seen it not to worry if others admit it or not but to treasure the Truth He has given us, seeking Him for wisdom to use knowledge of the truth aright, especially to trust that God in His sovereignty will use us to see lost people saved to the Praise, Honor and Glory of the Lord Jesus Christ, our Immeasurably Worthy Savior
If the Pope wants better relationships with other religions he had better start telling the truth about his own. his home country was involved with protecting ex Nazis, as was the Vatican itself. They are still trying to get the Vatican to admit the truth about the following: [URL=http://www.jpost.com/landedpages/printarticle.aspx?id=170937]]]Jerusalem Post: "Vatican Aided Eichmann's Escape"[/URL] and [URL=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(World_War_II_aftermath)#Early_efforts.E2.80.94Bishop_Hudal]]]Vatican Ratlines[/URL].
ladybug wrote: Michael, Pittman is the one behind the 'babies are murdered here' video that you mention. If you have time, take a look at this post concerning Pittman - https://abbasgirlme.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/regarding-babies-are-murdered-here/
I did briefly and the post did NOTHING to undo the reality of one what the word of God say about witnessing (we are in no place required to "help" to earn the right to be heard before we preach/proclaim the Gospel to the lost) BTW If you want you can listen to: The Fallacy of Cold Water Donuts - Putting the Light of the Gospel Under a Basket
and two the very real opposition to preaching the Gospel/Witnessing from pro-Cathlolic Ecumenicals for "life"
If you haven't watched the clip here is an example of what I am speaking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mACbV4xweHE Tearful woman confronts open-air preacher
Pittman is the one behind the 'babies are murdered here' video that you mention. If you have time, take a look at this post concerning Pittman - https://abbasgirlme.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/regarding-babies-are-murdered-here/
ladybug wrote: Michael, I have not read the article
Dear Ladybug I don't know who Pittman is. I will keep an eye open for what he teaches or not
What I do know is this the things Jon Speed reported in his article
which I would recommend you prayerfully honestly humbly, read for yourself and research the facts on BECAUSE it warns of pro-Catholic ecumenism among pro-life evangelicals oppposing the preaching and witnessing f the Gospel
who is on the video "Babies Are Murdered Here"
along with RC Sproul Jr (could be an old timey Calvinist more like Spurgeon than modern do nothing hyper types)
reported of people who are pro-Catholic ecumenical pro-lifers opposing the preaching of the Gospel is factual
both the local pastor who sent me the link and myself have personally experienced ecumenical pro-lifers who do not want the gospel preached nor signs with Scripture Verses on them (such as: "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you ..." Jeremiah 1:5)
It is similar to an attitude I spoke of in: [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=31613107580]]]The Fallacy of Cold Water Donuts[/URL] :
The devil is actually very ecumenical! And he dresses in garb, as an angel of light, in apostolic pretending succession, carrying a Shepherds staff and wearing the Mitre hat of a Jewish high priest! Now who does that sound like.... Behold the devil appears before his "synagogue of Satan" and tries to convince others that the Apostle Peter sent him!
Michael, I have not read the article penned by Jon Speed, but I am familiar with the website it's from. I wanted to warn concerning one of the contributors there - Marcus Pittman. He's the one who produced the wildly popular 'babies are murdered here'. Pittman adheres to a dominionist view, his brand of 'Christianity' is not biblical at all. I strongly encourage you to read this post as it reveals much concerning Pittman - https://abbasgirlme.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/regarding-babies-are-murdered-here/
A local pastor (friend) sent me the following link to an article that exposes the abuse of the Pro-Life Movement to seduce people away from the Gospel and ulitmate lead them into Catholicism, meaning a Roman Catholic world view/mindset NOT a Biblical one
(This was hard to put into words)
40 Days For Life Stinks (in my words here because it opposes the preaching of the Gospel)
BTW the pro-Cathoic Sidewalk Advocates for Life Training I am NOT attending today is being taught by the man heading up the local 40 Days for Life and promotes a do not preach, avoid, a preaching of the Gospel ideology
and if you haven't read it my response to the Baptist who invited me was:
Carl E wrote: I Agree - and the way the devil does that is by making Catholics believe in a works salvation which leads to hell.
[URL=https://www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php/Roman_Catholics,_Mormons_and_Jehovah%E2%80%99s_Witnesses]]]Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses[/URL] and the video, [URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VClgYQnT7Z8]]]Catholicism Crisis of Faith (54 Minute YouTube video)[/URL].
Faith is the gift of God and God only gives this grace to HIS elect. Truth separates the elect from the unsaved such as the RCC. The Reformation was a return to the Scriptures and Bible doctrines. Thus God removed HIS church from the idolatrous heretics. Satan's subsequent works were to confound the Protestants by dividing them into denominations. But God continues to call HIS elect and make them Holy as HE is holy thus separated unto God. Ecumenism is the sinners solution to the unbiblical believe that all denominations should be one, but this is simply compromise between nominal Christians. God does and will separate HIS church from the world even the ecclesiastical world. As Jesus states; "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
"And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine."
Rome is using it's same old tried and true tactics through professing Christendom. "Can't we all just get along"? The grand wizard of the cult is donning his evangelical disguise which has proven so successful that many of the well-known hirelings are falling all over themselves to bow the knee to Baal and kiss him.