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FRIDAY, FEB 27, 2015  |  26 comments
Wesleyan Now Offering LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM Housing
For the culturally ignorant among us, “LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM” stands for “lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, flexual, asexual, genderf**k, polyamorous, bondage/discipline, dominance/submission, sadism/masochism.”

The name of this super-inclusive, social-justice-hero of a dorm is “Open House,” and it is meant to be a “safe space” for self-identified LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM students, according to the university’s official website.


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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Thanks for your post Pilgrim. I think that easy believism is rampant and many who claim the name of the Lord claim Him as their Savior, but not their Lord; similar to JohnY does. He is either Lord, or He is not Savior. When I and others write things against homosexuality it is not hateful. It is simply saying the same thing our Lord said regarding sin in His word. But, someone who is practicing homosexuality is practicing an abomination and God's true church should simply call it sin
Yes indeed bro. It is when the meaning of sin is blurred that things go wrong. Yes, EB is rampant, and it goes against what Jesus taught:

John 3:8-10 GNB
(8) The wind blows wherever it wishes; you hear the sound it makes, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. It is like that with everyone who is born of the Spirit."
(9) "How can this be?" asked Nicodemus.
(10) Jesus answered, "You are a great teacher in Israel, and you don't know this?

Great teachers in the church can still be totally ignorant of what it really means to be born again. But Jesus words stand:

John 3:7 KJV
(7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

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News Item3/1/15 5:28 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Good post Frank. It seems to me it is becoming increasingly necessary to hear preaching which correctly defines "SIN" in all its ugliness, and what GOD thinks of SIN. The gospel itself must define sin and sinners, and its consequences for the impenitent, as well as the great news that through Jesus Christ all manner of sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, and the sinner washed white as snow, clean and perfect before God, ready for heaven straightway.
I also think one of the reasons why believers are not very conscious of their besetting sins, is because the church at large is no longer being led into the immediate presence of God, through the veil, and into the holy of holies. It is there that I will always cry out, God be merciful to me, a sinner."
Thanks for your post Pilgrim. I think that easy believism is rampant and many who claim the name of the Lord claim Him as their Savior, but not their Lord; similar to JohnY. He is either Lord, or He is not Savior. When I and others write things against homosexuality it is not hateful. It is simply saying the same thing our Lord said regarding sin in His word. But, someone who is practicing homosexuality is practicing an abomination and God's true church should simply call it sin.
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News Item3/1/15 5:12 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
...
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Most of the articles are trying to make that sin acceptable to the body of Christ. So, if someone is in Christ and they are not practicing homosexuality, in other words, like most of us we bring our baggage to the cross and some is difficult to get rid of but we constantly deal with it, then God does love them the same as He loves all of His children.
Good post Frank. It seems to me it is becoming increasingly necessary to hear preaching which correctly defines "SIN" in all its ugliness, and what GOD thinks of SIN. The gospel itself must define sin and sinners, and its consequences for the impenitent, as well as the great news that through Jesus Christ all manner of sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, and the sinner washed white as snow, clean and perfect before God, ready for heaven straightway.

I also think one of the reasons why believers are not very conscious of their besetting sins, is because the church at large is no longer being led into the immediate presence of God, through the veil, and into the holy of holies. It is there that I will always cry out, God be merciful to me, a sinner."

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News Item3/1/15 4:59 PM
fading leaf  Find all comments by fading leaf
Has anyone read: The Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert [Kindle Edition]
Rosaria Butterfield (Author)

Rosaria Champagne Butterfield, a brilliant former tenured professor of English at Syracuse University. A radical, lesbian, feminist professor who specialised in Queer Theory (a postmodern form of gay and lesbian studies).

Her conversion to Christ and marriage to a pastor.

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Thoughts-Unlikely-Convert-ebook/dp/B0097G05F8/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1425246668&sr=1-1&keywords=secret+thoughts+of+an+unlikely+convert

It must be good as I sent it to one who doesn't believe gays can be changed and it was returned!

Can be purchased in the UK for £8 from the Christian Medical Fellowship Bookstore, might be a good book for our witness.

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News Item3/1/15 4:25 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Judy Berisford wrote:
As Christians, we should be BETTER than hateful slurs! I think homosexuality is a sin; but the one dealng with it are PEOPLE whom God still loves!
Hey fellow Floridian! Most of the folks that post here are posting against the sin of homosexuality and those who have no desire to repent, but simply want Christ and their sins. God called it an abomination and the penalty was death in the OT and it is also referenced in the NT as an abomination. Practicing homosexuals will suffer the wrath of God if they die in their sins and most of us simply want to warn them. That is not "my" judgment, but the word of God as you know. In fact, I have never seen a post discussing homosexuals who are trying get out of that lifestyle or an article for that matter. Most of the articles are trying to make that sin acceptable to the body of Christ. So, if someone is in Christ and they are not practicing homosexuality, in other words, like most of us we bring our baggage to the cross and some is difficult to get rid of but we constantly deal with it, then God does love them the same as He loves all of His children.
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News Item3/1/15 11:46 AM
Judy Berisford | FLORIDA  Find all comments by Judy Berisford
As Christians, we should be BETTER than hateful slurs! I think homosexuality is a sin; but the one dealng with it are PEOPLE whom God still loves!
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News Item2/28/15 9:22 PM
Steve Parks | New York  Find all comments by Steve Parks
Just remember: You can't spell LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM without an "F," an "A," and a "G."
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News Item2/28/15 12:33 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
Eibret,
MS asked,"... What shall we expect next to be quoted on this forum?"
We can probably count on Franklin Graham to say something.
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News Item2/28/15 4:26 AM
Eibret | Belfast  Find all comments by Eibret
They're going to run out of letters of the alphabet soon.
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News Item2/27/15 2:41 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Dorcas wrote:
Concerning this Bernard individual...
He had a special devotion to the virgin Mary.
Wrote several books about the "Queen of Heaven".
He preached about an immediate faith in which the intercesor was the virgin Mary.

Sounds like a very good papist!
Thanks sister! I didn't even research this fellow because I just assume that if someone is famous enough to be quoted and they are catholic, then they "have to" be heretics since they know what the RCC stands for. In fact, this fellow was noted as being a papal confidant But, I am glad you researched him. Believe me, I have said my share of hail Mary's in my youth so that I can still cite it perfectly. Catholics do indeed worship the queen of the heavens and they call her Mary. In fact, I would say that she is the real leader of their church (satan in disguise). If you want Christ to do something; ask His mother and He will obey her.

MS.

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News Item2/27/15 2:30 PM
Dorcas  Find all comments by Dorcas
Concerning this Bernard individual...
He had a special devotion to the virgin Mary.
Wrote several books about the "Queen of Heaven".
He preached about an immediate faith in which the intercesor was the virgin Mary.

Sounds like a very good papist!
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News Item2/27/15 2:27 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Roendar wrote:
John.
If this then is your convincing argument for accurate Biblical doctrine then you had better repent and return to Frenchy's doctrine and throw out your old hyper-Wesleyan free-willy stuff.
Ah, you are sadly mistaken, as I did not write that.
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News Item2/27/15 2:24 PM
Roendar  Find all comments by Roendar
John UK wrote:
Indeed, he was one of the few medieval Roman Catholics widely heralded by the Reformers. John Calvin regarded him as the premier proclaimer of truth in the centuries between Gregory the Great and the Reformation, and Martin Luther found him to be "superior to all the doctors in his sermons, even to Augustine himself, because he preaches Christ most excellently."
Interesting, eh?
John.
If this then is your convincing argument for accurate Biblical doctrine then you had better repent and return to Frenchy's doctrine and throw out your old hyper-Wesleyan free-willy stuff.
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News Item2/27/15 2:19 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
How could this fellow preach Christ excellently if he believed the pope was Christ on earth and if he didn't believe in the doctrines of grace? How anyone could say something positive about him if he believed that his salvation was inextricably intertwined with the RCC and their sacramental works based salvation and not in Christ alone is really interesting.
I would say these learned men were wrong, at least on the surface.
He's an interesting character, this Bernard. He must be well respected in the hymn singing community, as one or two of his hymns can be found in Reformed hymnbooks. If the words of his hymns truly express his beliefs and experience of Jesus Christ, I wouldn't be surprised if he has been in heaven since the 12th century.

There are at least two of his hymns in the Sermon Audio hymnal.

MS, Bible Gateway is promoting the study of church history, and send out e-mails with extracts from the book once a week. It is most interesting.

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News Item2/27/15 2:14 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Frank wrote:
JohnY
Well my trollish friend, you will get a response, but only one. This is from the CARM website.
•"If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema," (Canon 9, Council of Trent).
•"If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema," (Canon 14, Council of Trent).
•For more on this, please see Council of Trent. Canons on Justification.
Notice that justification by faith alone is denied, and heaven is the reward for doing good works. This is the problem. The RCC does not teach the biblical doctrine of justification by faith. It teaches justification by faith and works.

What shall we expect next to be quoted on this forum?
Brother Lawrence? Mother Theresa? perhaps something from C.S. Lewis? or Aesops Fables? :thumb

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News Item2/27/15 1:56 PM
Ah But  Find all comments by Ah But
John Yurich USA wrote:
Does that sound like a man who did not believe in the doctrines of grace and had not trusted in Jesus alone for salvation?
But JY all those real committed idolatrous and blasphemous Roman Catholics who sit in the pews beside you believe that too. And obviously as you have told us numerous times - You are different to them. If they are in error compared to your Baptist confirmed confession then they are heretics and like Bernard will be unsaved and reprobate confounded by all that unbiblical Vatican doctrines.
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News Item2/27/15 1:51 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
JohnY
Well my trollish friend, you will get a response, but only one. This is from the CARM website.

•"If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema," (Canon 9, Council of Trent).

•"If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema," (Canon 14, Council of Trent).

•For more on this, please see Council of Trent. Canons on Justification.

Notice that justification by faith alone is denied, and heaven is the reward for doing good works. This is the problem. The RCC does not teach the biblical doctrine of justification by faith. It teaches justification by faith and works. If you want to see more on this, go to The Roman Catholic view on justification.

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News Item2/27/15 1:39 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Frank wrote:
How could this fellow preach Christ excellently if he believed the pope was Christ on earth and if he didn't believe in the doctrines of grace? How anyone could say something positive about him if he believed that his salvation was inextricably intertwined with the RCC and their sacramental works based salvation and not in Christ alone is really interesting.
I would say these learned men were wrong, at least on the surface.
There you go again stating you know for a certainty that Bernard of Clairvaux did not believe in the doctrines of grace when he stated "While I am in this life, this more sublime philosophy will be mine-to know Jesus Christ and Him crucified". Does that sound like a man who did not believe in the doctrines of grace and had not trusted in Jesus alone for salvation? Just because one is Catholic does not mean that one does not believe in the doctrines of grace and does not trust in Jesus alone for salvation. That really is ignorant to state that no Catholic believes in the doctrines of grace and does not trust in Jesus alone for salvation.
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News Item2/27/15 1:20 PM
Nityananda | New York  Find all comments by Nityananda
Carl E wrote:
Is the three letter word in the middle a coincidence? :-)
I doubt it. But are you aware that the gay community treats that three-letter-word the way a Jewish person perceives being called the K-word, or a black person the N-word? Can you see how crafty the queer community has become? I'm reminded of the Matthew Shepard murder story that the LGBTQ community seem to grab onto and embrace in its bosom. And I was thinking, just because this young man was murdered in such a grisly way doesn't automatically make him a saint, or even worthy of any such deference. If anything, I can see that case as a judgment from the LORD and a warning to others who embrace homosexuality. Sorry if I'm getting too off-topic, but I just felt it incumbent upon me to mention this.
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News Item2/27/15 12:52 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Bible Gateway snippet on church history, received today by e-mail:
Bernard of Clairvaux
Quote: "While I am in this life, this more sublime philosophy will be mine — to know Jesus Christ, and Him crucified."
The most celebrated of the Cistercians monks and the leading reformer of the twelfth century, Bernard (1090 - 1153) was more than a monastic leader. He was a theologian, a papal confidant, a Crusader, and a hymn writer. Indeed, he was one of the few medieval Roman Catholics widely heralded by the Reformers. John Calvin regarded him as the premier proclaimer of truth in the centuries between Gregory the Great and the Reformation, and Martin Luther found him to be "superior to all the doctors in his sermons, even to Augustine himself, because he preaches Christ most excellently."
Interesting, eh?
How could this fellow preach Christ excellently if he believed the pope was Christ on earth and if he didn't believe in the doctrines of grace? How anyone could say something positive about him if he believed that his salvation was inextricably intertwined with the RCC and their sacramental works based salvation and not in Christ alone is really interesting.

I would say these learned men were wrong, at least on the surface.

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