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FRONT PAGE  |  10/24/2017
TUESDAY, FEB 24, 2015  |  15 comments
From Internet to Obamanet

Critics of President Obama’s “net neutrality” plan call it ObamaCare for the Internet.

That’s unfair to ObamaCare.

Both ObamaCare and “Obamanet” submit huge industries to complex regulations. Their supporters say the new rules had to be passed before anyone could read them. But at least ObamaCare claimed it would solve long-standing problems. Obamanet promises to fix an Internet that isn’t broken.


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Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
make sure there's a level playing field.
level playing field = bring everyone down to the lowest level, it never means raise everyone to the higest level. Thus you will have slower speeds, less access and poorer service, but you can thank the Lord everyone else does too!!
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News Item2/24/15 4:14 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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No, we could use more regulations in some areas including banking q.v.,
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the FCC is just returning to the practices they had before to make sure there's a level playing field.
There folks is another example of misuse of language to promote a program. One I forgot that is popular among control enthusiasts, "level playing field" But it sounds good doesn't it?

Thanks for the reminder Jim.

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News Item2/24/15 2:54 PM
C k Durridge | uk  Find all comments by C k Durridge
Why aren't y'all so lucky you have a leader who is going to fix everything that is broken in America before he leaves office.

If the Democrats get into the Whitehouse again you might want to think about becoming an illegal immigrant in Mexico.

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News Item2/24/15 2:47 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Obamacare is the best thing since sliced bread, so Obama net must be like Obama peanut butter! www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/04/the-best-writing-on-net-neutrality/361237/ (Net Neutrality: A Guide to (and History of) a Contested Idea), and http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/before-net-neutrality-the-surprising-1940s-battle-for-radio-freedom/384924/ (Before Net Neutrality: The Surprising 1940s Battle for Radio Freedom)
Google speech recognition is something else -- sometimes it's a real pain in the neck.

I'm glad you pointed out the biases of WSJ writer, Scott.

No, we could use more regulations in some areas including banking q.v., Neil Barofsky on the Need to Tackle Banking Reform and the FCC is just returning to the practices they had before to make sure there's a level playing field.

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News Item2/24/15 2:10 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
I remember when Ma Bell Telephone was broken up by the gov with the reasoning that it was a monopoly which when broken would lead to lower phone bills. Anyone get lower phone bills? They took off is what they did, in part to pay for the attached gov programs. How many times must we be fooled by meaningless false promises? Pay attention to the language used. "Monopoly" then, "neutrality" now. Healthcare, security, for the children, hope and change, better, cheaper, bla bla bla. All meaningless. We need wake up and smell the sewer gases.
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News Item2/24/15 1:40 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
jade wrote:
You might want to investigate that. European internet is cheaper and of equal or faster speeds of the US
Here is the research, and remember this is just like ACA, the administration has NOT let out the details.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/12/eight-myths-about-fcc-regulation-of-the-internet

http://techliberation.com/2013/08/05/do-europeans-and-east-asians-have-better-and-cheaper-broadband-than-americans/

http://mediafreedom.org/2014/06/not-so-fast-europe-no-really-it-isnt-says-prof-chris-yoo/

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News Item2/24/15 1:30 PM
jade | sf  Find all comments by jade
You might want to investigate that. European internet is cheaper and of equal or faster speeds of the US

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Government run and regulated internet What could possibly go wrong
Sites like SA would more than likely be shutdown for their "hate" speech, cost of internet would go up (websites would have to get a license to operate) and speed would go down. (just ask the Europeans)
Scott McMahan, the world wide web is over 2 decades old, why would your scenario have not played out by now. If I want to go see my sister in St. Augustine I can take a 6 hour drive or a 2 hour flight. My budget says I drive. The fact that some can afford to fly doesn't make my option unavailable or less affordable. Ask the people who pay for cable if their bills went down when the government got involved, didn't happen. Ask the people whose healthcare is now higher with less choices if they think the government does a better job.
As Carl in Greensboro stated, pennnnned nailed it.
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News Item2/24/15 12:51 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Government run and regulated internet What could possibly go wrong

Sites like SA would more than likely be shutdown for their "hate" speech, cost of internet would go up (websites would have to get a license to operate) and speed would go down. (just ask the Europeans)

Scott McMahan, the world wide web is over 2 decades old, why would your scenario have not played out by now. If I want to go see my sister in St. Augustine I can take a 6 hour drive or a 2 hour flight. My budget says I drive. The fact that some can afford to fly doesn't make my option unavailable or less affordable. Ask the people who pay for cable if their bills went down when the government got involved, didn't happen. Ask the people whose healthcare is now higher with less choices if they think the government does a better job.

As Carl in Greensboro stated, pennnnned nailed it.

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News Item2/24/15 12:04 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
One only has to ask, in what areas, when the govt gets involved, does it remain neutral? It gets involved because it isn't neutral toward that which it wants to get involved with. When the govt seeks neutrality, don't be surprised if that means you must be neutral in your ideas.

I still haven't heard of incidents where people could not go where they wanted to on the internet. Another fix for a non-existent problem?

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News Item2/24/15 10:26 AM
Carl in Greensboro | NC  Find all comments by Carl in Greensboro
pennnned wrote:
internet media is the only area where they do not have complete control over their mouthpieces....
pennnned nailed it! What would happen to sites like SermonAudio if and when the internet is policed by the government. Email is not secure even now but imagine when the DOJ, DHS, the IRS and other agencies began to patrol the net. Smart phones and TVs would fall under this umbrella as well. We would not only have Big Brother in our living rooms and kitchens but his bigger brother Goliath would be privy to our every conversation.
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News Item2/24/15 9:51 AM
pennnned  Find all comments by pennnned
internet media is the only area where they do not have complete control over their mouthpieces.... see breitbart and hastings and others who are no longer with us.

they have systematically dismantled healthcare, schools, marriage, now they aim for the free exchange of ideas.... the how isn't that important, you don't put the coyote in charge of the hen house.

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News Item2/24/15 8:02 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Scott McMahan wrote:
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Strange that conservatives in general, who have used alternate media to get their message out and consider the mainstream media to be their enemies, would be so vehemently opposed to network neutrality, since without neutrality the mainstream media conglomerates would have a stranglehold on the Internet
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Not so strange. When something is promoted on the basis of something bad might happen if we don't do something now, the conservative approach is to be skeptical.
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News Item2/24/15 6:38 AM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Find all comments by Scott McMahan
The WSJ is an anti-neutrality propaganda machine. (Columnist Holman Jenkins has written the same column over and over for years on the subject.) That's because entrenched media interests want pay-to-play Internet to protect themselves.

Without network neutrality, sites like SermonAudio.com would slowly fade away since the Internet would become a place where you had to pay to get fast network traffic, and only huge media corporations could afford to pay that amount.

Strange that conservatives in general, who have used alternate media to get their message out and consider the mainstream media to be their enemies, would be so vehemently opposed to network neutrality, since without neutrality the mainstream media conglomerates would have a stranglehold on the Internet. Guess politics does make strange bedfellows.

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News Item2/24/15 1:36 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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