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FRONT PAGE  |  9/23/2019
THURSDAY, FEB 19, 2015  |  41 comments
Would Today’s Proverbs 31 Woman Do Multi-Level Marketing?

But for those who want to establish a steady source of income, the answer becomes more complicated. A Federal Trade Commission report predicts that, factoring in time and financial investment, only 1 percent of MLM participants earn a profit. (A quick review of a company's income disclosure statement confirms this.) Distributors may recoup investment in the form of product or discounts, but it takes a high level of recruitment and sales to actually make money.

Christian money guru Dave Ramsey points out that MLM opportunities require what any other job does: hard work, good people skills, and commitment. It seems that the key to being successful in such companies is staying in for the long run in order to make it into the top tier of sellers. So is the investment ultimately worth it? The answer is a resounding “maybe.” ...


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Bear | Americas  Find all comments by Bear
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News Item2/21/15 10:21 AM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
pennned wrote:
a total renegade, eh?
I'm glad you have a sense of humor
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News Item2/21/15 8:33 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
Rodney K. wrote:
She might even let her kids play with crayons...
a total renegade, eh?
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News Item2/21/15 2:25 AM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
pennned wrote:
she... takes care of affairs, takes care of their employees, buys property and plants trees, is physically strong, proud of her work, her clothing is ornamental and expensive, sells her merchandise and makes deals with merchants outside the home.
today she would be breaking the law. she didn't get permits, probably doesn't have some kind of established kitchen to hand out samples to her customers, might sell her milk from the cow, and they might cross state lines. she' totally unregulated, and he is not the only breadwinner.
She might even let her kids play with crayons...
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News Item2/20/15 8:20 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
I think SteveR’s comment was so silly and demeaning when referring to NB that I am going to take a moment to address this issue. He argues that women should be encouraged, interested and able to get educated and earn a comfortable independent income. If they are not independent, then their husbands may threaten them with divorce or keep a separate bank account.

However, when NB stated that she had an education and that her family income was sufficient for her to stop working to raise her children, and she wanted to do this, he accused her of being sanctimonious because she believed she did the right thing and encouraged others to do the same thing. Now how he could know she was being sanctimonious is only known to him for sure. What he is really saying and all should understand this; is that women should only have the opinions that he and others like him have. If they vary from that and really take a stand then they are sanctimonious and misguided. This fellow is simply someone who is encouraging feminism and if someone believes that God is leading them to do something else, it “might” be okay as long as they don’t state that as being spiritual. For all who are not familiar with the emergent church movement; this is it.

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News Item2/20/15 8:16 PM
Pastor Mike  Find all comments by Pastor Mike
The Christian religion is multi-level marketing.
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News Item2/19/15 9:50 PM
johng | ga  Find all comments by johng
A woman like that in proverbs quoted here is molded by God and a love of his Word. True sanctification will guide a woman into a correct path that is pleasing to the Lord. And if her husband is right with God she will also please him. One of the big issues in my life and I'm sure many others is those two individuals in harmony with God's word living together hardly exists anywhere. But when it does its a beautiful thing. When it doesn't its chaos at best. The world will constantly push each couple toward the chaos. And that force is even operating in these forums.
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News Item2/19/15 7:33 PM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
SF from TX wrote:
Penny, I see your point.
Greetings sister. I reread what Anne had written and yes, that was nicely said about seasons of life, situation and looking at what the needs of the family are, and honoring her husband.
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News Item2/19/15 7:20 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Mike wrote:
In NYS, if she wants to make anything edible in her kitchen to sell, she has to have a separate kitchen, dedicated to the saleable goods, and subject to all the usual expert govt inspectors and regs. It doesn't matter if she makes an inferior product, the self-regulating market will regulate without their help. But it isn't about safety and health anyway, as you might suspect.
If she was married to a Doctor like NB, she could avoid all that, not work, still have all the nice things in life, and sanctimoniously call other people misguided for not be as godly as she is
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News Item2/19/15 6:39 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
pennned wrote:
she... takes care of affairs, takes care of their employees, buys property and plants trees, is physically strong, proud of her work, her clothing is ornamental and expensive, sells her merchandise and makes deals with merchants outside the home.
today she would be breaking the law. she didn't get permits, probably doesn't have some kind of established kitchen to hand out samples to her customers, might sell her milk from the cow, and they might cross state lines. she' totally unregulated, and he is not the only breadwinner.
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In NYS, if she wants to make anything edible in her kitchen to sell, she has to have a separate kitchen, dedicated to the saleable goods, and subject to all the usual expert govt inspectors and regs. It doesn't matter if she makes an inferior product, the self-regulating market will regulate without their help. But it isn't about safety and health anyway, as you might suspect.
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News Item2/19/15 6:30 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
pennned wrote:
... all the gents on here gonna start showing up at city council meetings and lose those home owners association regs so proverbs 31 woman can plant trees and sell the fruit? my bets, most would turn them in for breaking regs.
proverbs 31 isn't about gestures of femininity, its a way of living.
Exactly penn,
Men, myself included, have no understanding how difficult this wicked culture as made it for women to be both Godly and survive. Its the height of selfishness for men to condemn women who have been forced to earn a living in this evil world.
Sure, men can find some women abusing MLM, and I dont agree with using Scripture to promote this type of business, but to get on a high horse and say some of the things said here?...no way
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News Item2/19/15 6:16 PM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
she... takes care of affairs, takes care of their employees, buys property and plants trees, is physically strong, proud of her work, her clothing is ornamental and expensive, sells her merchandise and makes deals with merchants outside the home.

today she would be breaking the law. she didn't get permits, probably doesn't have some kind of established kitchen to hand out samples to her customers, might sell her milk from the cow, and they might cross state lines. she' totally unregulated, and he is not the only breadwinner.

the man with a 9 to 5, not only being unrealistic in most cases today (two part times at $10/hr will not feed the kids), pay for the thousands in dula costs, thousands monthly in onocare, etc. a little land with free use might do the trick, all the gents on here gonna start showing up at city council meetings and lose those home owners association regs so proverbs 31 woman can plant trees and sell the fruit? my bets, most would turn them in for breaking regs.

proverbs 31 isn't about gestures of femininity, its a way of living.

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News Item2/19/15 6:16 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
NB wrote:
Well since you don't post often, I will take the time to thank you for your kind and discerning comment and I'm sure that all of us would enjoy hearing from you more often. The fact that you are a stay at home mom of 7 kids is amazing in and of itself.

SteveR is well known to all of us and he does spew out hate and it is normally directed at those who disagree with his love of the RCC and ecumenicalism. Although I think it is safe to say, he hates me a little more than the others and he will actually admit that. On history, I think I was perhaps the first one to expose him and he simply can't let that go??

He is also strongly opposed to me being against egalitarianism and of course this was the basis for his latest rant against me.

Good for you being a stay at home mom and it would be nice to see you post more often. Yes, SteveR is my enemy and I do pray for him often. We are to love our enemies, but we are to love our brothers and sisters more.

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News Item2/19/15 6:11 PM
NB | kansas  Find all comments by NB
That: "vengeance is mine, I will repay," says the Lord...
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News Item2/19/15 5:43 PM
NB | kansas  Find all comments by NB
i follow this board a lot but rarely comment as my thoughts are usually already posted by many of those who regularly post. I'm a homeschooling mom of 7, and my husband and I are committed to providing our children with a solid biblical worldview, showing and teaching them the gospel each day intentionally in a deut. 6 manner. My husband and I are also both veterinarians. I have many years of education in a system that promotes feminism and demotes any sort of male dependence as well as downplays the role of motherhood or family. By the grace of God, my eyes were opened to the truth of the scriptures when we began our family. I stayed home with our children and I can tell you that managing a household, a husband, homeschooling, etc.. Is far more challenging and rewarding than was my professional career. Also, by the grace of God, we did not make poor financial choices prior to children that would have hindered my coming home.
Frank, thank you for your comments. I appreciate how you have lovingly handled this "conflict" with SteveR who seems very misguided. Perhaps he should remember that we are also supposed to love our enemies since he seems "bent" to have a reason to spew nasty words towards you. I can't think of any biblical example for his reasoning. I do, however, know tha
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News Item2/19/15 5:28 PM
Dorcas  Find all comments by Dorcas
Hi Angela,
Most of us who post regularly on SA, have been the target of SteveR hateful and venomous anathemas.
He seems to become particularly riled when the Roman Catholic religion is discussed.
We share the same sentiments concerning Frank.
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News Item2/19/15 5:19 PM
Angela Wittman | Southern Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
It's been a while since I've commented at SA, so I don't know who SteveR is, but I remember Frank as being a kind, retired gentleman. I'm really disturbed by SteveR's comments directed toward him and pray he will stop making them. As has been pointed out, it appears the ladies are in agreement with Frank and we're probably from all different walks of life and at different stages of our walk with the Lord.
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News Item2/19/15 5:17 PM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Penny, I see your point. There's a differnece in crocheting something (which you can do while you watch your children play) and then selling it full price for what it's worth-online or at a flea market, farmers market, or some place where the whole family can go if desired. And between selling for a company that requires a lot of time and effort with no promise of a payment. Example: I once was a consultant for Avon (ny convictions would keep me from doing that again). I ended up owing them money and making absolutely nothing. But if it worked for an older woman than I think selling for a christian company would be fine. As Anne pointed out, Proverbs 31 woman was a woman of seasons.
I think we're peetty much in agreement.
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News Item2/19/15 5:14 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Frank wrote:
1. 1 Ti 2:1 would say believers should pray for all men. But, your comment proved my point.
2. Well shame on those men you are referring to. They are to love their wives as Christ loves them.
1) I tell you what, when I properly pray for Saints as I should, I will consider praying for 'all' men. Unlike you, my prayers make a diffference

2) Is it news to you that Christian men dont love their wives as they should? It shouldnt, worse so called Christian men abuse Scripture to further abuse their wives

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News Item2/19/15 5:03 PM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Excellent comments (for the most part). Just a personal touch-with the rough experiences this day has brought me I'm glad to be a keeper at home.
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