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MONDAY, JAN 26, 2015  |  12 comments
Backlash Brewing Over House Republicans' Scuttling of Abortion Bill

The fallout from the House Republican leadership’s decision to cancel a vote on a controversial abortion bill on Thursday continues, with conservative activists warning that Republicans who moved to scuttle the bill may face primary challenges in 2016.

“I believe in political retribution, otherwise you might as well close up shop,” Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser told The Hill. The House had scheduled a vote on a bill to ban most abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy on January 22, the date of the annual March for Life in Washington to mark the anniversary of the Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision. But the vote on the Pain Capable and Unborn Child Protection Act was scuttled at the last minute due to opposition, led by Republican Representatives Renee Ellmers of North Carolina and Jackie Walorski of Indiana, over an exception for instances of rape that applies only ...


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News Item1/28/15 1:53 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Carl, a nanny for President, no thanks! While I was looking around for material for a disagreement of interpretation between the Drs. Rugh and MacArthur, I came across this interesting interview with John MacArthur,
J. MacArthur wrote:
The whole idea of a public morality, of fighting for morality on a sort of an unregenerate level, escapes me as any kind of biblical mandate. The Bible says in 2 Timothy 3:13, “Evil men will get worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.” The longer we live, the more we accumulate dangerous seasons, dangerous times. And the accumulation of this moving toward the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ indicates that it's just going to get worse and worse and worse. Trying to reclaim the culture politically, or even religiously, organizationally, seems to me to be completely off target in terms of what a biblical mandate is, which has really nothing to do with some collective morality and everything to do with individual salvation. That that's what we're called to do.
excerpt from, [URL=http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/GTY63/the-ecumenical-jihad-war-without-a-winner]]]The Ecumenical Jihad: War Without A Winner[/URL] A very interesting interview.
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News Item1/28/15 8:28 AM
Carl in Greensboro | NC  Find all comments by Carl in Greensboro
UPDATE:
"Hi Carl --

Rep. Renee Ellmers was awarded “Worst Week in Washington” by the Washington Post and "Loser of the Week" by Fox News after choosing the day of the March for Life to shock the pro-life community by derailing the House vote on the 5-month abortion limit (H.R. 36).

But if Rep. Ellmers had the worst week, Carly Fiorina had the best. At the Iowa Freedom Summit, Carly, a possible Republican presidential contender, leapt into the maelstrom created by Rep. Ellmers and lifted the pro-life banner high again. She called on Republican Leadership to stand by their commitment to H.R. 36, reminding them that unborn lives, not politics, truly matter most.

Carly even shared her personal story of how she is affected every day by one woman’s choice to reject abortion.

With pro-life women leaders like Carly Fiorina standing for Life, I know we can prevail and advance H.R. 36 to save babies from the horrors of abortion after 5 months.

Read my op-ed at the Daily Caller about Rep. Ellmers and Carly Fiorina and what it takes to be a pro-life woman leader.

For Life,

Marjorie Dannenfelser
President, Susan B. Anthony List"

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News Item1/26/15 3:06 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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The Christian Right Movement is a disaster for the mission of Christians! "The Reconstructionist movement and its allies and offshoots, by substituting political and cultural action for the proclamation of the Gospel, by substituting eschatology for soteriology, and by mangling the Gospel itself, have become tools of Romanist political action" The Trinity Review).' excerpt from, Notes on Reconstructionism. Conservative Christians are overlooking The Inadequacy of Moralism and of political action. Theology/Kingdom Now/Reconstructionism is an anti-Biblical curse.
Conservative Catholics + Conservative Republicans = Conservative Power!
Irrelevant. Again.
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News Item1/26/15 2:36 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ho-hum, [URL=http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-other-anti-vaccinationists/]]]The Other Anti-Vaccinationists[/URL]

But hey folks, we know you have the Vatican do your thinking for you, so here from office Ratzinger before he became the Pope,

Pontifical Academy for Life wrote:
the lawfulness of the use of these vaccines should not be misinterpreted as a declaration of the lawfulness of their production, marketing and use, but is to be understood as being a passive material cooperation and, in its mildest and remotest sense, also active, morally justified as an extrema ratio due to the necessity to provide for the good of one's children and of the people who come in contact with the children (pregnant women);
such cooperation occurs in a context of moral coercion of the conscience of parents, who are forced to choose to act against their conscience or otherwise, to put the health of their children and of the population as a whole at risk. This is an unjust alternative choice, which must be eliminated as soon as possible.
---[URL=http://www.immunize.org/concerns/vaticandocument.htm]]]MORAL REFLECTIONS...[/URL] as "good Catholics" you should find the article interesting.
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News Item1/26/15 12:26 PM
Delivered | The Word of God  Contact via emailFind all comments by Delivered
Excellent message. No wiggle room.
Is it appropriate to pray that those who have legalized this atrocious sin become, themselves, childless? Or, seek our sovereign God to open their eyes without delay? For they know not what they do.
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News Item1/26/15 10:53 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Carl in Greensboro wrote:
I really want to leave this post alone
Thanks Brother for your words of wisdom and testimony.
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News Item1/26/15 10:48 AM
Carl in Greensboro | NC  Find all comments by Carl in Greensboro
pennned wrote:
I would add that anyone who was truly prolife would look immediately into the connection between the vaccine industry and the abortion industry, research the use of fetal cell lines injected into our bodies for health,
I really want to leave this post alone but I am oh so glad that you brought up fetal cell use in vaccinations. This is nothing but cannibalism. I wonder what horrible diseases will be "birthed" from the curse of these type of abominable vaccinations on the unsuspecting and ignorant public (a plague waiting to happen). Reminds me that mad-cow and mad-sheep diseases are the direct cause of feeding these vegetarians food mixed with the left-overs from cows and sheep. I remember a news feed last year where the Obama administration were rushing the completion of an Ebola vaccine that also uses embryonic stem cells. The lethal rationalism of sacrificing the weak to benefit the strong is a direct by-product of "Evilution." Sowing life and reaping death.
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News Item1/26/15 10:27 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
Carl in Greensboro wrote:
There are innocents in those wombs. Innocents! Protect the orphans (though their fathers be rapists)!
you are correct.

thank you for sharing this sobering story.

I would add that anyone who was truly prolife would look immediately into the connection between the vaccine industry and the abortion industry, research the use of fetal cell lines injected into our bodies for health, to watch the evangelical community sit smugly by while they participate in the whole thing is one sad commentary. Expect mandatory vaccines. We've gone right along for so long, God may just say, you want it, have more!!

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News Item1/26/15 10:13 AM
Carl in Greensboro | NC  Find all comments by Carl in Greensboro
pennny wrote:
but its easy to philosophize an argument,
I feel your horror and your anguish but I am one conceived through the act of rape. I am nearly 57 yrs old and still do not know my father's name; my mother has taken that name to her grave. Consider these verses: "And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren" (Genesis 29:31, KJV). "And God remembered Rachel, and God hearkened to her, and opened her womb" (Genesis 30:22, KJV). " For the LORD had fast closed up all the wombs of the house of Abimelech , because of Sarah Abraham's wife" (Genesis 20:18, KJV). The decision to quicken or not quicken life in the womb is God's.

Here are two more: "For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb" (Psalm 139:13, ESV). "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder" (Mark 10:9, KJV). No matter where human life begins God is his Author. God has not given man authority to take innocent lives. God reminded Jonah the anguished evangelist that there are innocents in the evil city of Nineveh. There are innocents in those wombs. Innocents! Protect the orphans (though their fathers be rapists)!

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News Item1/26/15 9:33 AM
pennny  Find all comments by pennny
Carl, I imagine its for things like little girls that are not fully formed yet, like 12 years old, even 10-11 years olds these days with the hormonal early puberty onset who get raped by a family member or something horrific like that, especially if the youngster is mentally disabled and doesn't understand. Oh, life can be so cruel. What an evil crime rape is, it is in itself a form of theft and murder. As opposed as I am to abortion there are such things as ectopic pregnancies. I'm as prolife as you get, think the birth control pill is aboritfacient too, but its easy to philosophize an argument, this is really one of those darkest issues, because its the procreation of life, one of God's greatest gifts to mankind.

As a side not, evangelicals are practicing abortifacients with the pill, I'd rather a world there were exemptions for a few than millions of evangelicals closing off their fertility with abortifacients and keeping the churches empty of children.

I do wonder why there cannot be give on this point to get the ball rolling and close down those horrific baby destroying mills!!

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News Item1/26/15 9:08 AM
Carl in Greensboro | NC  Find all comments by Carl in Greensboro
I never understood the logic behind the abortion rape exception which goes something like, "Government please give me the freedom to kill my baby because he or she will be a constant reminder of his or her rapist father. And please pay for the procedure also." Under that logic I wonder if the rapist was married and had other kids should the woman also press for the members of his family also be dealt with as accomplices for the rape. Considering what some states and our federal government would classify as rape there must be tens of millions of us babies walking around as a bad reminder to our mothers that our Dads did not heed the "No"s and "Stop"s of their then wives or girlfriends. I fully understand that rape is traumatic but why should anyone else but the rapist be punished (murdered) for the rapist(s) crimes? Later on today I will write a letter to Representative Ellmers asking her to rethink her opposition to the bill as is. I will also write a letter to Marjorie (President of the SBA List of whom I am a proud black male member) thanking her for being so bold as to call out and challenge the cowardice of these "pro-life" elected officials.
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News Item1/26/15 12:36 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Eschatology="The doctrine of the last or final things, as death, judgment, and the events therewith connected."

Soteriology="2. (Theol.) The doctrine of salvation by Jesus Christ."

[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_right]]]The Christian Right Movement[/URL] is a disaster for the mission of Christians! ' "The Reconstructionist movement and its allies and offshoots, by substituting political and cultural action for the proclamation of the Gospel, by substituting eschatology for soteriology, and by mangling the Gospel itself, have become tools of Romanist political action" (3/02, The Trinity Review).' excerpt from, [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/cor/notes_on.htm]]]Notes on Reconstructionism[/URL]. Conservative Christians are overlooking [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=118121637304]]]The Inadequacy of Moralism[/URL] and of political action. [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/cor/dominion.htm]]]Dominion Theology/Kingdom Now/Reconstructionism[/URL] is an anti-Biblical curse.

[URL=http://www.ministers-best-friend.com/Republican-Power-and-Catholics.html]]]Conservative Catholics + Conservative Republicans = Conservative Power![/URL]

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