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FRONT PAGE  |  9/26/2020
Choice News MONDAY, DEC 22, 2014  |  33 comments
Gunman executes cops as 'revenge' for Garner

It is the sequence that every mayor dreads: the ominous report, the scramble to the hospital and the confirmation that, yes, an attack against the police has proved fatal.

But for Mayor Bill de Blasio, the tragedy on Saturday — when two police officers were shot and killed in an ambush in Brooklyn, according to the authorities — arrived at a particularly trying moment, amid an already fractious relationship with the police.

Police union leaders and officers could be seen turning their backs to the mayor and the police commissioner, William J. Bratton, as they walked past, in a video taken at the hospital where the two held a news conference on Saturday. ...


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News Item1/8/15 10:04 AM
pennny  Find all comments by pennny
Delivered,

how can "reconciliation" happen if:

1- the church does not have a truthful view of what is going on?

2- the church teaches a faux romans 13 that tells them that their highest order of service is to not be in the public arena, to not speak about anything political (which is everything), and to not be involved in the community?

you are suggesting that Christians reconcile? Reconcile what?

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News Item1/8/15 9:15 AM
Delivered | In the Light  Contact via emailFind all comments by Delivered
Because of limited words, last paragraph was incomplete. It should be as follows:

Perhaps it is time for Christians to stand together as one new man and live lives with intentionality - lose our lives by making every attempt to become one in the bond of love. If society is divided over racial issues, it is because the church is. Judgment begins at the house of God. Let us live as though we are part of a New Creation; as a new species.
Christians really do have the answer. It is called reconciliation.
Finally, “Screwtape Letters” by C. S. Lewis is good read.

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News Item1/7/15 11:30 PM
Delivered | In the Light  Contact via emailFind all comments by Delivered
I was exhorted to read and digest Psalm 141:3 after "judging" a commenter.
The truth about this whole cop vs Black citizens controversy is that the evil one will have us see this as racial. But in reality there are many sides to this issue. 1) The biased media puppets are working with the evil one to usher in a police state, 2) in reality it cannot be racial because Black people are not as outraged when they kill one of their own. But who’s gonna tell Black people such? Are they ok with killing their own? 3) The evil one is blinding us to the fact that as many whites are killing others at a greater rate. Also, whites have taken aim at cops in other states because of Garner and the Ferguson issue. 4) If we are led to believe it is racial (although I sometimes believe it started with race to get our eyes off the root cause), then we will ignore the increase of in-family murders; parents vs children, children vs parents, babies being aborted, etc. 5) Lastly, we can all live in fear now because the ones hired to protect us need to be protected; much like a pregnant woman at an abortion clinic.
We could be at the tipping point of no life having value. It will be a free for all.
Perhaps it is time for Christians to stand together as one new man and live lives with intentionality
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News Item1/7/15 12:59 PM
Hidden | Cleft of the Rock  Contact via emailFind all comments by Hidden
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
to the The Redeemed on my knees, may I suggest for your meditation
Psalm 141:3 Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep watch over the door of my lips
I am not sure what part of the section in SermonAudio labeled NEWS with a button that reads COMMENT is hard for you to fathom. SA is wanting people to COMMENT on the NEWS article, which is what the dear sister did. If you took the time, you would know she also encourages people in the things of God also. So, I point you to Christ who said
Matthew 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
I will take your exhortation to heart and meditate on the depths of Psalm 141:3. I did not realize that I was "judging" this individual. It is just that the news is not new; under the sun, and I just think we need to encourage one another more to pray in accordance to the Word which is established. Pray. Pray.

Again, thanks.

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News Item1/6/15 2:07 PM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
The Redeemed wrote:
instead of wordly news, every day, every day, every day.
you don't say! worldly news.... every day? if you are not able to handle the realities of today and to give glory to Christ, it probably would be best you don't read the news articles. The news article is about the execution of a cop, that's some serious business. And yes you are welcome here anytime to give glory to Christ, that is a good reminder, thanks.
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News Item1/6/15 12:14 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
The Redeemed wrote:
Hey Penned!
Give Christians a break! Draw our attention to the person of Christ and his work of redemption instead of wordly news, every day, every day, every day.
May God open your eyes to see what readers need - encouragement and motivation toward our living God. Remind us of His sovereignty.
to the The Redeemed on my knees, may I suggest for your meditation

Psalm 141:3 Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep watch over the door of my lips

I am not sure what part of the section in SermonAudio labeled NEWS with a button that reads COMMENT is hard for you to fathom. SA is wanting people to COMMENT on the NEWS article, which is what the dear sister did. If you took the time, you would know she also encourages people in the things of God also. So, I point you to Christ who said

Matthew 7

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

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News Item1/6/15 11:36 AM
The Redeemed | On My Knees  Contact via emailFind all comments by The Redeemed
pennned wrote:
America has rules against a standing mil on its land.
through evangelical support of the Pat. act they were able to develop one through the back door.
good officers know this and have been trying to sound the bell.
the fundamentals have been changed.
good citizens and good cops sitting in the middle of a contrived situation.
how clever of them to pick cases that have racial undertones ... when the real issue is the fehd training and mil wehponizing.... the real cases don't make the MSM.
Hey Penned!
Give Christians a break! Draw our attention to the person of Christ and his work of redemption instead of wordly news, every day, every day, every day.
May God open your eyes to see what readers need - encouragement and motivation toward our living God. Remind us of His sovereignty.
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News Item12/30/14 11:19 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
FG wrote:
The public perception of
America has rules against a standing mil on its land.

through evangelical support of the Pat. act they were able to develop one through the back door.

good officers know this and have been trying to sound the bell.

the fundamentals have been changed.

good citizens and good cops sitting in the middle of a contrived situation.

how clever of them to pick cases that have racial undertones ... when the real issue is the fehd training and mil wehponizing.... the real cases don't make the MSM.

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News Item12/30/14 1:26 AM
Kyle | Arizona  Find all comments by Kyle
solutions wrote:
Pass that commandment on to America and remove two things...
1. The Right to Bear Arms.
(IE: The right to kill)
2. The thousands and thousands of Arsenals found on every shopping mall corner.
Oops, your bias is showing. Stay on point, please. This has nothing to do with the right to bear arms.
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News Item12/28/14 6:15 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi FG...I agree that there are bad cops, real bad cops, racist cops, and power happy cops, both black and white, but I also believe that these are relatively few. I also believe that cetain precincts become infected with these when police captains/cheifs hire based upon their own personal views, goals, and ways they believe the general pubic should and can be handled by those who feel they are above the law. Anyway, I think the publics perception has changed because the world has changed. The world is so much more dangerous and it's nothing to the thugs to shoot a cop which used to be almost unheard of. Shooting a cop these days is almost always a death penalty offense but its also a huge boost for a thug who becomes the blocks hero. I think law enforcement has quite the job to do these days, especially in the inner cities, and the reason there are so many shootings is because there are so many brazen thugs thinking they are invincible. Todays liberals say, "Oh, that poor thug!". Had any one of those black thugs been white, they would be just as dead today.
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News Item12/27/14 3:57 PM
FG | USA  Find all comments by FG
The public perception of the police over the years is changing. Wherein at one time they were perceived as a member of the community, a helper and a servant, that perception has largely changed to one of an occupying force. I personally have been pulled over and ticketed three times for trumped up offenses that I did not commit probably for nothing more than to try to provide "revenue" for the local municipalities. One gets the idea that they are becoming less about law enforcement and more about enforcing the will of individuals. (I.E. politicians, special interest etc.) I remember reading what William Penn said once, that a people who would not be ruled by God would eventually be ruled by tyrants. I personally am not for a police state, but I can't help but wonder if what William Penn said is not the dynamic at work here.
And no, I'm not for the killing of police, OK?!
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News Item12/26/14 12:30 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Rodney K. wrote:
Crayon, Ppppppppenny?
the crayon is mightier than the pen.
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News Item12/24/14 8:50 PM
Rodney K. | Tennessee  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rodney K.
pennnned wrote:
propaganda folks.
Crayon, Ppppppppenny?
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News Item12/24/14 6:26 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
KJG, thanks for the correction. Without checking, I thought assault rifles were still available for purchase at gun shows.
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News Item12/23/14 1:51 PM
pennnned  Find all comments by pennnned
solutions wrote:
Logic???
propaganda folks.
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News Item12/23/14 12:47 PM
kjg | Amerika  Find all comments by kjg
From Wiki,

"Gun ownership in the People's Republic of China is heavily regulated by law. Generally, private citizens are not allowed to possess guns and penalties include death."

So what is the preferred weapon of choice in China? The butcher knife. Just google knife attacks in China.

You can talk 'til you are blue in the face about banning weapons. But some people are so intent on harming/killing people that they will use any object to accomplish their evil deeds.

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News Item12/23/14 12:18 PM
solutions  Find all comments by solutions
you do err wrote:
homicides in England and Wales
By your logic I suspect your religious thinking is along the lines that sin can be excused by virtue of the fact that other people sin too.

If one does it - then all can do it?

Hence the reason for billions of guns available in America all around you, is to provide death as a means of justice - lynch mob mentality.

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News Item12/23/14 12:02 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
solutions wrote:
Logic???
Less gun availability means less murders.
If America did not have this national obsession with guns then a lot more people would be alive today.
The right to bear arms provides the "right to kill" - not the right to protect.
Don't you "Christians" care?
---
Your ideas are understandable, as they probably stem from being a subject rather than a citizen. We're each influenced by our perceptions. If we carry this particular idea back to Cain and Abel days, less rock availability might well have kept Abel alive. Interesting thought.
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News Item12/23/14 11:45 AM
you do err  Find all comments by you do err
solutions wrote:
Logic???
.
you obviously didn't even look at the link provided.

As an aside, homicides in England and Wales are not counted the same as in other countries. Their homicide numbers “exclude any cases which do not result in conviction, or where the person is not prosecuted on grounds of self defence or otherwise” (Report to Parliament). The problem isn’t just that it reduces the recorded homicide rate in England and Wales, but what would a similar reduction mean for the U.S.
If taken literally, a simple comparison can be made. In 2012, the US murder rate was 4.7 per 100,000, a total of 14,827. Arrests amounted to only 7,133. Using only people who were arrested (not just convicted) would lower the US murder rate to 2.26 per 100,000. More information on the adjustment for England and Wales is available here and it suggests that while many homicides are excluded it isn’t as large as it would appear (in 1997, the downward adjustment would be about 12 percent)

http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org/2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/

being honest with the facts doesn't seem to be your strong suit

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News Item12/23/14 11:38 AM
solutions  Find all comments by solutions
Mike wrote:
logic ... Cain was a killer
Logic???
Less gun availability means less murders.
If America did not have this national obsession with guns then a lot more people would be alive today.
The right to bear arms provides the "right to kill" - not the right to protect.
Don't you "Christians" care?

(#) America has a problem with gun violence
•One in three people in the U.S. know someone who has been shot.
•On average, 32 Americans are murdered with guns every day and 140 are treated for a gun assault in an emergency room.
•Every day on average, 51 people kill themselves with a firearm, and 45 people are shot or killed in an accident with a gun.
•The U.S. firearm homicide rate is 20 times higher than the combined rates of 22 countries that are our peers in wealth and population.
•A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used to kill or injure in a domestic homicide, suicide, or unintentional shooting than to be used in self-defense.

(#) Gun Violence Takes a Massive Toll on American Children
•More than one in five U.S. teenagers (ages 14 - 17) report having witnessed a shooting.
•An average of eight children and teens under the age of 20 are killed by guns every day."
http://www.bradycampaign.org/about-gun-violence

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