The End Times Are Here and Began With the Re-Establishment of Israel, Says David Jeremiah
Dr. David Jeremiah, megachurch pastor, bestselling author and popular Bible teacher, believes the End Times began in 1948, when a nation that features prominently in the Bible was re-established as a state for the first time in 2,000 years. In fact, considering "the whole scope of world history," Jeremiah would have to conclude that "yes, we are in the End Times," or Earth's last days.
The Shadow Mountain Community Church senior pastor, who took over that position from another prophecy buff, Dr. Tim LaHaye, examines perhaps one of the most intriguing books of the Bible in his latest work, Agents of the Apocalypse.
In Agents of the Apocalypse: A Riveting Look at the Key Players of the End Times, Jeremiah examines the Book of Revelation through 10 distinct characters or groups, including "The Exile," "The Martyrs," "The Two Witnesses," and "The Dragon." Each chapter opens with a "a fictional...
Penny, thanks for taking notice. There are sermons right here on SermonAudio that also go into detail about the differences. Listen to, [URL=http://tinysa.com/243163]]]Examining Covenant Theology (Gateway to all 6 parts)[/URL] These shouldn't intimidate you each part is short, if memory serves.
Also Dr. Rugh had some excellent sermons on the subject, Hear (and see):
In the following two sermons Dr. Rugh used a book by a Reformed theologian to compare Dispensational and Covenantal hermeneutics [URL=http://tinysa.com/236947]]]http://tinysa.com/236947 (The Covenants of Scripture, part 1)[/URL] and [URL=http://tinysa.com/236949]]]http://tinysa.com/236949 (The Covenants of Scripture, part 2)[/URL] The following two PDF files especially the chart will be quite helpful in following the above sermons, [URL=http://tinyurl.com/zyt4v4m]]]http://tinyurl.com/zyt4v4m (Covenants and Dispensations Part I by Thomas Ice (PDF))[/URL] (Short) and [URL=http://tinyurl.com/glu7gk7]]]http://tinyurl.com/glu7gk7 (Summary of Dispensations and Covenants (PDF))[/URL] (This is quite good).
A short 2 minute video by Mike Vlach as well, [URL=https://www.tms.edu/news/tms-distinctives-dispensationalism/]]]Dispensationalism with Dr. Michael Vlach[/URL].
Bob Nyberg wrote: Bottom Line: The basic difference between Dispensationalism and Covenant Theology has to do with how a person interprets the Bible. The foundation for both systems relates to the issue of hermeneutics ‚Äď that is how the Bible is interpreted....
Issue #1: Should the Bible be understood in its plain, normal sense of meaning taking into account the historical context in which it was written? Or does the interpreter of scripture have the right to allegorize anything that he does not understand or does not fit into his theological box?...
Issue #2: Are Israel and the Church the same or are they different? The dispensationalist says that if you read the Bible in its plain, normal sense then you have to come to the conclusion that Israel and the Church are different....
Issue #3: Is God only interested in the salvation of mankind or does God have a larger program in mind? ... The dispensationalist says that if you read the Bible in its plain, normal sense then you have to come to the conclusion that God's plan is not simply limited to the salvation of mankind as important as that is.
the literal reading for punishment of false prophets in the Old Testament is stoning.
something that literalists might keep in mind when quoting felon Scofield and building an hermeneutic off of his vain imaginations and then building a military industrial complex that would go out to the far reaches of the world for it.
if the end time diaspora and martyrdom of Christianity happen under their watch, would they even notice?
could that be why the literal punishment for false prophets in the OT is so harsh?
the only problem that I could find wrong with Pastor David Jeremiah stances , was his mixing in fictional elements into his book. For a pastor who is no doubt a lover of literal interpretation, I would think this would be going against his principles. The following is from The Master's Seminary, and you won't find them fictionalizing anything.
[URL=https://www.tms.edu/news/tms-distinctives-eschatology-and-the-dmin/]]]http://tinyurl.com/mhk5r2z (TMS Distinctives: Eschatology and the D.Min.)[/URL]. This URL will get you to a series of video commentaries from various men that I would suppose averages around two and a half minutes long. One example, is the following by Dr. Michael Vlach, which was viewable on my Android device.
[URL=https://www.tms.edu/news/tms-distinctives-has-the-church-replaced-israel/]]]http://tinyurl.com/lwlyypa (TMS Distinctives: Has the Church Replaced Israel?)[/URL]
MG wrote: Lurker - Benjamin is part of the the House of Judah (the Jews) remember. 1 Kings 12:21
Before NT times Jews were already welcoming in vast numbers of gentile converts. Entire communities became Jews, not just willingly like in Esther, but some forced like during the Hasmonean Dynasty. Edomites were forcibly converted, King Herod was an Idumean Jew. Not only does Herods lineage fulfill Scripture, also many of Daniels prophecies are fulfilled during the period of the Machabees though heretics will try to deceive you & deny them. By the 2nd century, Judaism went though a makeover and became a helioscentric faith merged w/Samaritans. By the 6th Century many communities converted for geopolitical,economic or social reasons. Among them would be the Magravim, Mizrahim, Tenonim and other Sephard communities. By the 10 Century there are vast numbers of Ashkenazim too. These communities were very different and unique. By 1948 Hebrews have largely become MUSLIM, but The West created an Israel in their own image, just as Colonial, just as Imperialistic and just as murderous as her Western sponsers. These people dont share Hebrew blood, just a hatred of the TRUE Messiah...and they are your spiritual allies to spend eternity with
James Thomas: It's my opinion (not mine only) that the Torah/law was known by the patriarchs. Consider Abraham in Gen 26:5 "Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes and my laws" and compare this to 1 Kings 2:3.
Noah seemed to know the difference between clean/unclean beasts. Abraham may have even met the 3 strangers during the Feast of Unleavened Bread!? It was an "appointed time" (Gen 18:14), what the LORD's feasts are called later, and probably alluded to in creation ("seasons" in Gen 1:14).
MG wrote: James Thomas wrote: Next question is...why are the children of Adam and Eve performing sacrifices to God in Genesis 4? Here's a controversial answer: GOD's Torah (instructions) were known way back then. Consider also Judah's sons who married Tamar. The second son, Onan, married to raise seed for his brother (Gen 38:8). This is all explained later to Moses, but Judah obviously observed this much earlier!
MG wrote: Israel/Ephraim and gentiles goes all the way back to Jacob's blessing on his grandson, Ephraim. He said that he would become a multitude of nations. It's too big of a study for here, but, in effect, I believe this can mean that he would become "the gentiles". I realize many won't agree, but wit
I'm impressed, brother. Not many have made the connection of Ephraim's seed and the Gentiles. Since this is obviously of interest to you in your studies, I'd offer a suggestion for you to check out.
Obviously Ephraim is a figurehead as his name spans through the prophets to the time of the gathering of both tribes of Israel. See Jeremiah 31:9 where God calls Ephraim His firstborn. Read the preceding context to get a feel for the timeline of fulfillment. Now have a look at 1 Tim 1:16 **that in me first**
Now go back and read Jer 31:18-20. Sound like Paul on Damascus Road, God's called apostle to the Gentiles, one born out of due time?
James Thomas wrote: Next question is...why are the children of Adam and Eve performing sacrifices to God in Genesis 4?
Here's a controversial answer: GOD's Torah (instructions) were known way back then. Consider also Judah's sons who married Tamar. The second son, Onan, married to raise seed for his brother (Gen 38:8). This is all explained later to Moses, but Judah obviously observed this much earlier!
Lurker wrote: Why do you say "WILL return"? Peter quoted parts of Hosea 1:10 and 2:23 in 1 Pet 2:10 and in context wrote to the house of Israel..... 1 Peter 2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls. Does this text make sense if applied to you or any Gentile Christian you know? Did you once know and love God, go astray and come back again? Of course not.... it only makes sense when applied to a people of God who had been cast away and gathered again..... the house of Israel who were given into Assyrian captivity.
Yes, Lurker, this is talking about the House of Israel. But, I've still got to admit that I believe I've been grafted into this. I can than GOD for the return to Him as if it was me. In the same way, Ruth and Rahab would have celebrated the Passover even though they didn't experience the actual Passover themselves. They had aligned themselves with the GOD and the people of Israel.
The link between the House of Israel/Ephraim and gentiles goes all the way back to Jacob's blessing on his grandson, Ephraim. He said that he would become a multitude of nations. It's too big of a study for here, but, in effect, I believe this can mean that he would become "the gentiles". I realize many won't agree, but wit
Jim, Thank you for your response. It wasnt a question, just an example. From 1John 3 we are left asking WHY? was his deed evil and Abel's righteous? The Holy Spirit wrote in Numbers and Leviticus to describe why one was accepted and the other rejected. Genesis 4:3 (KJV) 3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. Genesis 4:4 (KJV) 4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: Genesis 4:5 (KJV) 5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Why was Abel's accepted? Numbers 18:17 (KJV) 17 But the firstling of a cow, or the firstling of a sheep, or the firstling of a goat, thou shalt not redeem; they are holy: thou shalt sprinkle their blood upon the altar, and shalt burn their fat for an offering made by fire, for a sweet savour unto the LORD.
Why was Cain's rejected? Leviticus 2:12 (KJV) 12 As for the oblation of the firstfruits, ye shall offer them unto the LORD: but they shall not be burnt on the altar for a sweet savour.
Next question is...why are the children of Adam and Eve performing sacrifices to God in Genesis 4?
Replacement theology was an attempt by people to understand all of the prophecies in the Bible that were yet to be fulfilled dealing with Israel. There no longer was a nation of Israel and smart people were to gifted to believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible, so they rationalized that Israel must be code word for the church. The problem is God brought back Israel into her land just as He said He would. Now that doesn't mean they are saved. They will, in general, accept the antichrist when he is revealed and God will purge them and refine them until all Israel will be saved.
Sure thing 1517. You didn't think apostasy happened overnight did you?
Did you hear about the Evangelicals and Catholics Together movement? Where did that come from? Fifty years ago it would have been considered not possible. But little by little, slowly change, get the subterfuge correct, and presto!
Now I am very much an observer of people. I observe Christians and what they do. I observe myself, and what I do. And what happens at December 25th? Are the churches full all day long? Is there great rejoicing in Christ, and plenty of prayer? Do they hear singing for hours from down the road? Is there plenty of preaching in the power of the Holy Ghost?
I don't think I need answer those questions for you.
If you get back to the real world, instead of being taken in by the spirit of the age, you will understand better, you will rejoice far more, and you will separate yourself further away from the world, which thing is called increased holiness.