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FRONT PAGE  |  12/10/2017
MONDAY, JUN 16, 2014  |  25 comments
School Shooter Had Problem With 'Sinners'

In searching Jared's home, detectives found a journal in which he described a plan to kill classmates. A source close to the investigation said Padgett called some people "sinners,'' railing against those who smoked cigarettes or took the Lord's name in vain.

His family never saw that anger.

The last time Fields was with her nephew was at a religious event in March. Jeff Fields, her husband and Jared's uncle, was baptized into the Mormon church. Jared, who grew up Mormon and was active in the Hartley Park Ward in Gresham, was thrilled, sharing hugs all around, Jeff Fields said.

"I love my nephew," Jeff Fields said. "Jared was a good kid up until this point. I just don't know what it was that made him do what he did." ...


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News Item6/20/14 12:35 AM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Jim Lincoln said: " Shooting sinners, is more a NRA ide than a Biblical one, "...and dinosaurs turned into birds! Silliness!
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News Item6/19/14 3:07 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Shooting sinners, is more a NRA ide than a Biblical one,
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It's hard to know whether this is a demagogue's statement, or just another trolling attempt.
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News Item6/19/14 2:17 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Shooting sinners, is more a NRA ide than a Biblical one,
Dealing With Sin As God's People
and Responding to Sin Against Us.
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News Item6/19/14 11:47 AM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Find all comments by R. K. Borill
"I love my nephew," Jeff Fields said. "Jared was a good kid up until this point. I just don't know what it was that made him do what he did." ...

Could it be that he was indoctrinated by a cult?

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News Item6/18/14 7:24 AM
DJ | Indiana  Find all comments by DJ
God Bless you Chris, and thank you for lifting me up!
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News Item6/17/14 6:22 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
DJ from Indiana writes:
That's been a struggle for me all my life.

Hi DJ, to me, the difference is very simple and apparent. Do those who preach, judge, condemn, and constantly wave their fingers, saying,"tisk, tisk, tisk" emulate Christ themselves; being the example for those they accuse, or do they just accuse? Do those who judge, condemn, and preach the law with a militant bent show the love of Christ within them by doing it all with love, concern, and humility, or do their condemnations and accusations begin and end with legalism void of any evidence that their concern and finger pointing is from Christ? Do you love your neighbor as your self and love the Lord with all your heart? If so, you would never be guilty of any of the above. Neither would you, whether you disagree on certain points or not, ever accuse other saints of being possessed or tools of Satan.

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News Item6/16/14 6:01 PM
Shane | socal  Contact via emailFind all comments by Shane
SteveR... If i may ask, what do you do for a living?
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News Item6/16/14 5:12 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
WCF 25/6
VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.

Ah yes!

WCF 14/2
But the principal acts of saving faith are accepting, receiving, and resting upon Christ alone for justification, sanctification, and eternal life, by virtue of the covenant of grace.

Ah yes!

Not accepting, not receiving, and not resting upon Christ will leave you unsaved.

Think about it. Do you have Jesus? Have you received him as your Saviour?

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News Item6/16/14 5:05 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
none are worthy wrote:
WCF 6/5. This corruption of nature, during this life, doth remain in those that are regenerated;a and although it be through Christ pardoned and mortified, yet both itself and all the motions thereof are truly and properly sin.b
a. Prov 20:9; Eccl 7:20; Rom 7:14, 17-18, 23; James 3:2; 1 John 1:8, 10. • b. Rom 7:5, 7-8, 25; Gal 5:17.
6. Every sin, both original and actual, being a transgression of the righteous law of God, and contrary thereunto,a doth, in its own nature, bring guilt upon the sinner,b whereby he is bound over to the wrath of God;c and curse of the law,d and so made subject to death,e with all miseries spiritual,f temporal,g and eternal.h
a. 1 John 3:4. • b. Rom 2:15; 3:9, 19. • c. Eph 2:3. • d. Gal 3:10. • e. Rom 6:23. • f. Eph 4:18. • g. Lam 3:39; Rom 8:20. • h. Mat 25:41; 2 Thes 1:9
Amen

What sweet & understandable words from GODs Elect

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News Item6/16/14 4:57 PM
none are worthy  Find all comments by none are worthy
John UK wrote:
Do you have Jesus? Have you received him as your Saviour?
WCF 6/5. This corruption of nature, during this life, doth remain in those that are regenerated;a and although it be through Christ pardoned and mortified, yet both itself and all the motions thereof are truly and properly sin.b

a. Prov 20:9; Eccl 7:20; Rom 7:14, 17-18, 23; James 3:2; 1 John 1:8, 10. • b. Rom 7:5, 7-8, 25; Gal 5:17.

6. Every sin, both original and actual, being a transgression of the righteous law of God, and contrary thereunto,a doth, in its own nature, bring guilt upon the sinner,b whereby he is bound over to the wrath of God;c and curse of the law,d and so made subject to death,e with all miseries spiritual,f temporal,g and eternal.h

a. 1 John 3:4. • b. Rom 2:15; 3:9, 19. • c. Eph 2:3. • d. Gal 3:10. • e. Rom 6:23. • f. Eph 4:18. • g. Lam 3:39; Rom 8:20. • h. Mat 25:41; 2 Thes 1:9

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News Item6/16/14 4:19 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Shane wrote:
SteveR wrote:
It figures that sinful men will abuse the Mosaic for wicked purposes
Kind of like... cursing someone who blesses you?
in various ways man completely distorts the light of the law, whatever its precise character, and suppresses it in unrighteousness for wicked ends. In doing so he renders himself without excuse before God.
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News Item6/16/14 3:16 PM
Shane | socal  Find all comments by Shane
SteveR wrote:

It figures that sinful men will abuse the Mosaic for wicked purposes

Kind of like... cursing someone who blesses you?

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News Item6/16/14 3:15 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
woggle wrote:
Ooooohh
John UK and the Arminian brigade will attack you for saying it like that. They believe they get a piece of the action in saving themselves.
There are some active arminists and some inactive presbies, and I think I know which ones God prefers, as he will show on the Day of Judgment.

Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He that is indwelt by the Holy Ghost (oops, not really).....He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved.

Until you truly believe, I shall keep reminding you that you MUST believe, if you want to be justified and saved. You MUST humble yourself before God and cry out, "God be merciful to me, a sinner."

You think it is something to jest about? It is most serious and eternal issues you deal with here.

I don't give two hoots for your so-called Presby theology. If it bears no fruit, it's no good to me. This is what you need: "He that hath the Son hath life, and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life."

What this verse is saying is that he that hath THE SON hath life, and he that hath NOT the SON OF GOD hath NOT life. Think about it. Do you have Jesus? Have you received him as your Saviour?

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News Item6/16/14 2:56 PM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland.  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
John Yurich USA wrote:
It figures that the shooter was a Mormon since Mormonism leads to one being mentally deranged and psychotic.
John Y. you`re repeating yourself!
Over enthusiast.?
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News Item6/16/14 2:29 PM
woggle  Find all comments by woggle
SteveR wrote:
We are only saved with the indwelling of the Holy Ghost, not of ourselves
Ooooohh
John UK and the Arminian brigade will attack you for saying it like that. They believe they get a piece of the action in saving themselves.
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News Item6/16/14 2:21 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
John Yurich USA wrote:
It figures that the shooter was a Mormon since Mormonism leads to one being mentally deranged and psychotic.
Not really

It figures that sinful men will abuse the Mosaic for wicked purposes, but I would argue that all of Adams posterity has this ailment not just Mormons. We are only saved with the indwelling of the Holy Ghost, not of ourselves

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News Item6/16/14 1:34 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
It figures that the shooter was a Mormon since Mormonism leads to one being mentally deranged and psychotic.
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News Item6/16/14 12:42 PM
Christine | California  Find all comments by Christine
... sorry... the word was to be blood... wish we could edit!
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News Item6/16/14 12:41 PM
Christine | California  Find all comments by Christine
Everyone seems to have oinions or reasons or theories....the Lord tells us that we do not battle against flesh and blod...why is it that we forget this?
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News Item6/16/14 12:02 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
It is often wrong to shoot people.
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