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MONDAY, MAR 17, 2014  |  21 comments
Crimea referendum: Voters 'back Russia union'

Some 95.5% of voters in Crimea have supported joining Russia, officials say. after half the votes have been counted in a disputed referendum.

Crimea's leader says he will apply to join Russia on Monday. Russia's Vladimir Putin has said he will respect the Crimean people's wishes.

Many Crimeans loyal to Kiev boycotted the referendum, and the EU and US condemned it as illegal.


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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
They go through the trouble because sufficient dependency is not yet cast in stone. As more and more Obama fans, and "cool" seekers get hit with paying for Obamacare, and paying for increasing prices of everything driven by printing press money, they will cease supporting the administration. It is already happening. Distractions are still necessary.
Are you saying there's an outside chance that Obama will get a third term, Mike? Surely not. Noooooooooooooooo.
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News Item3/22/14 8:15 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
R. K. Borill wrote:
Mike writes,
I've been wondering for months what distraction would be used in this election year, to get eyes off failure, and away from internal corruption. Maybe this is it.
R. K. Borill responds:
Good point Mike. But I don't know why they go to the trouble anymore. They have the votes purchased with tax payer money. When you consider the number of voters on the government tete, we no longer have a two party system. It's Hugo Chavez type elections from now on. They're just standing in line waiting their turn like Hillary.
They go through the trouble because sufficient dependency is not yet cast in stone. As more and more Obama fans, and "cool" seekers get hit with paying for Obamacare, and paying for increasing prices of everything driven by printing press money, they will cease supporting the administration. It is already happening. Distractions are still necessary.
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News Item3/22/14 7:18 AM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Find all comments by R. K. Borill
Mike writes,
I've been wondering for months what distraction would be used in this election year, to get eyes off failure, and away from internal corruption. Maybe this is it.

R. K. Borill responds:

Good point Mike. But I don't know why they go to the trouble anymore. They have the votes purchased with tax payer money. When you consider the number of voters on the government tete, we no longer have a two party system. It's Hugo Chavez type elections from now on. They're just standing in line waiting their turn like Hillary.

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News Item3/18/14 10:46 PM
Seb Aussiepoll  Find all comments by Seb Aussiepoll
Nat wrote:
It's the stupidest thing ever.

Ukraine is so small already

Ukraine is small?
Are you trying to set a new world best?
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News Item3/18/14 7:52 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
"Many Crimeans loyal to Kiev boycotted the referendum, and the EU and US condemned it as illegal."
Illegal? What about the unlawful ousting of the former Ukrainian President by the rebel faction?
It's kind of ridiculous, this administration which makes a career of it, criticizing another for doing the illegal.
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News Item3/18/14 4:39 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
"Many Crimeans loyal to Kiev boycotted the referendum, and the EU and US condemned it as illegal."

Illegal? What about the unlawful ousting of the former Ukrainian President by the rebel faction?

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News Item3/18/14 4:00 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
penned wrote:
the people have spoken. due to interference from those with global agendas, they are being forced to pick, and they have chosen. these were the Russians who tried to fight off the bolshevics.... the people have voted. after the expansionism of the IMF/west/Saudi group over many, many countries, there's been a push back here. the petrodollar no longer has singularity. this is all foolishness, look within the US, we've got problems of our own that need to be fixed.
I've been wondering for months what distraction would be used in this election year, to get eyes off failure, and away from internal corruption. Maybe this is it.
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News Item3/18/14 3:55 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
the people have spoken. due to interference from those with global agendas, they are being forced to pick, and they have chosen. these were the Russians who tried to fight off the bolshevics.... the people have voted. after the expansionism of the IMF/west/Saudi group over many, many countries, there's been a push back here. the petrodollar no longer has singularity. this is all foolishness, look within the US, we've got problems of our own that need to be fixed.
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News Item3/18/14 12:45 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
The EU, & particularly Germany, is now in a jam, since they imposed economic sanctions on one of their major energy sources & export markets.

Luke 14:28: "For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, & counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?"

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News Item3/17/14 11:05 PM
Nat | Australia  Find all comments by Nat
Totally agree. Putin will not be happy with just Crimea. He's a KGB agent with a thirst for power and dominance. Truly believe this will be the start of world War 3
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News Item3/17/14 8:37 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Find all comments by R. K. Borill
Penned,

I think you hit it. There is more to all this than ethnic solidarity. Besides, when have you ever heard of a general election with those percentages except in sham elections at gun point. Money is power and that's what's driving this move by Putin and China.

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News Item3/17/14 6:57 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Ukraine pipeline
Syria pipeline

(currency dominance ending)

next....

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News Item3/17/14 5:00 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
SteveR wrote:
Since we absorbed San Diego after the Crimean War, perhaps we will show our good will and return San Diego, our fleet stationed there, and the balance of So CA to Mexico?
Not that it matters, but wasn't that before the Crimean War?

Anyway, since San Diego isn't disputed territory, nor have the residents voted to return to Mexico, it's probably not a comparative issue.

Serious question. Do you think Putin will be satified with Crimea?

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News Item3/17/14 9:05 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Mike wrote:
"Legal" reincorporation from Russia's viewpoint is understandable, but their initial absorption of ethnic Ukraine and Crimea under Cathy the Great might be a factor to be considered in the definition.
Since we absorbed San Diego after the Crimean War, perhaps we will show our good will and return San Diego, our fleet stationed there, and the balance of So CA to Mexico?
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News Item3/17/14 9:01 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"Legal" reincorporation from Russia's viewpoint is understandable, but their initial absorption of ethnic Ukraine and Crimea under Cathy the Great might be a factor to be considered in the definition.
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News Item3/17/14 8:41 AM
Nat | Australia  Find all comments by Nat
It's the stupidest thing ever. If a state had a large percentage of some nationality. .. Let's say Mexican for example only. .. and they decided they didn't want to be part of the USA but part of Mexico. Does that make it right? We have in Australia a multicultural nation. If every suburb decided it didn't want to be Australian but part of some country they came from. . The country will fall apart. It's ridiculous this referendum. People should not pick or choose like that. If they want to be Russian. .. cross the border to Russia. Ukraine is so small already why steal more land mass! It seems so evil and silly
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News Item3/17/14 8:38 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
To clarify:

Crimea is not a country or 'small' section of Ukraine, its an autonomous Republic with disputed rights. When the West won the Cold War, NATO sought to permanently split Crimea from Russia. In an effort to buy time Russia gave a wink to the solution & allowed Crimea to be a part of Ukraine but as an AUTONOMOUS Republic. Since Ukrainian nationhood, Russia was able to control the somewhat sovereign region. Now that there has been a coup in Ukraine, Russia felt they could legally reincorporate the region back into Russia. However NATO will counter this even if 100% of Crimea wants to rejoin Russia, simply because we care about our interests than the people who live there.

(imo) Crimea is a forgone conclusion, its part of Russia and everybody knows it. The real test is to see if NATO can keep Russia out of Eastern Ukraine, and I think the one sided propaganda war today is to discourage Russia from going further.

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News Item3/17/14 8:35 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
GSTexas wrote:
If the vast majority of the country wants to join Russia, why is it illegal? Its their country, let them do what they want. Its not our buisness anyhow.
It isn't the vast majority of the country. Crimea is a small section of Ukraine which has a majority ethnic Russian population, and it is that section which is voting to secede from Ukraine and rejoin mother Russia. Population of Ukraine about 45 million, Crimean section 2 million.
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News Item3/17/14 5:30 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
GSTexas wrote:
If the vast majority of the country wants to join Russia, why is it illegal? Its their country, let them do what they want. Its not our buisness anyhow.
The do gooders of the upright citizens brigade don't know the difference between their business and somebody else's
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News Item3/17/14 5:13 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
GSTexas wrote:
If the vast majority of the country wants to join Russia, why is it illegal? Its their country, let them do what they want. Its not our buisness anyhow.
Precisely, GS. Plus it is not to join Russia, but to rejoin it, reverting to how it was in the mid 20th century.
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