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SATURDAY, MAR 15, 2014  |  14 comments
Has America's Form of Christianity Left the Church in 'Spiritually Dead' Condition?

A California pastor says he is concerned about the state of the church and believes that Christianity in America has shifted away from the Gospel and instead of being the light of the world, Christians are beginning to look just like the world.

Shane Idleman, founder and lead pastor of Westside Christian Fellowship in Lancaster, Calif., wrote a blog post directed towards church leaders who he says have exchanged the truth for tolerance. He urges them and the rest of the Christian community to reflect on whether they are affecting the world or being infected by it.

"The present condition of the church and America leaves one to wonder if this lack of fearing the Lord is contributing to her spiritually dead condition. A healthy respect of God is what our culture, and the church desperately need," Idleman told The Christian Post. ...


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News Item3/16/14 2:01 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Mike wrote:
Read what you wrote again, more slowly. You'll see it makes no sense.
I forgot to put the word dead before churches in the phrase "but the Evangelical Protestant Churches are not dead churches". I didn't catch that.
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News Item3/16/14 1:45 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
That makes no sense, John.
John wrote: "but the Evangelical Protestant Churches are not churches...."

I reckoned he must have left out the word "dead" before "churches", otherwise it makes no sense whatever, and most likely could have been written by someone insane and psychotic who was not cognizant of how to construct a normal sentence.

Ah, but you already knew that, Mike.

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News Item3/16/14 1:39 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Yurich USA wrote:
Oh yes it makes sense as the liberal churches support abortion and homosexuality and don't preach the biblical doctrine of salvation whereas the Evangelical Protestant Churches are against abortion and homosexuality and preach the biblical doctrine of salvation.
Read what you wrote again, more slowly. You'll see it makes no sense.
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News Item3/16/14 1:37 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Mike wrote:
That makes no sense, John.
Oh yes it makes sense as the liberal churches support abortion and homosexuality and don't preach the biblical doctrine of salvation whereas the Evangelical Protestant Churches are against abortion and homosexuality and preach the biblical doctrine of salvation.
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News Item3/16/14 12:54 PM
Duh  Find all comments by Duh
Mike wrote:
That makes no sense, John.
He is not familiar with the term 'dead orthodoxy'.
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News Item3/16/14 12:50 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Yurich USA wrote:
The liberal churches are dead churches but the Evangelical Protestant Churches are not churches because the Evangelical Protestant Churches preach the biblical doctrine of salvation.
That makes no sense, John.
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News Item3/16/14 10:17 AM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
Christopher it is so prevalent it seems there is nothing else. Most will claim their church is different, including most everyone on here, but upon inspection they are all the same in different wrappers.
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News Item3/16/14 7:14 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Right Thomas. Nothing new whatsoever. I do think the rapid decline is pretty incredible though along with how "Christians" seem to be rapidly embracing whatever the new normal of the day might be, becoming friends to the world through tolerance. God has changed, God loves everyone, the bible wasn't written for today, we must conform, we must love, love, love. No fear of God anymore and ecumenism from the pulpits isn't helping the situation.
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News Item3/15/14 10:51 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
I think he just pulled his head out of the sand. This is not a new development.
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News Item3/15/14 3:32 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, my pastor has mentioned this more than once the latest sermon on it is, Contending For the Gospel, an excerpt from the summary for it,
Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
Efforts to help and support people worldwide by the Church and the people of God must first and foremost be by, and with, the Gospel. Only the Gospel changes lives in ways that are presently and eternally transforming. Involvement in political and social activities undermines, distracts from, and potentially corrupts the proclamation of the Gospel. The Church today is in desperate need of hearing and heeding this warning as was sounded in the early church.
John Y., intersting to note that 1 out of 10 Catholics leave their apostate (Roman Catholicism—Apostolic or Apostate?(PDF)) church, for much the same reasons, The hidden exodus: US Catholics becoming Protestants. It would be great if the number could be increased to 1 in 5 Catholics quitting their church! Ah, but we would be happy to hear about one in particular quit
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News Item3/15/14 3:27 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
GSTexas wrote:
Professing Christians in America are spiritually dead, and look like the world. The TRUE Christians in this country are not spiritually dead, and dont look like the world.
And apparently are so few in number that they are of little effect or influence.
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News Item3/15/14 12:22 PM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
Professing Christians in America are spiritually dead, and look like the world. The TRUE Christians in this country are not spiritually dead, and dont look like the world.
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News Item3/15/14 11:33 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
The liberal churches are dead churches but the Evangelical Protestant Churches are not churches because the Evangelical Protestant Churches preach the biblical doctrine of salvation.
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News Item3/15/14 10:35 AM
what IF  Find all comments by what IF
""But if God brings revival … if we once again set our hearts and minds on Him … there is tremendous hope."

"*IF* God brings revival."

If God does not then America is doomed to apostasy and hell.

Well that makes practical sense.
But the *IF* part seems to doubt God's plan and purpose for mankind. This sounds like the old proverbial question, "Should we be speaking to God - Or to man?"

Ezek 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

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