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FRONT PAGE  |  6/25/2019
THURSDAY, JAN 23, 2014  |  42 comments
Will Prayer for Elected Leaders Revive America?

A national network to pray for and with the nation’s elected leaders is emerging in hopes of sparking a national revival, reaching from Capitol Hill to state and local governments.

An initiative of the National Prayer Center, it’s called the Josiah Project, named for King Josiah of Israel who after finding the Book of the Law when rebuilding the temple led the nation to repent and pray.

“He tore his clothes and was convicted before the Lord and he saw the condition of the nation, the culture of Israel was in the toilet. They had pushed God out of the public square. Does all this remind you of something?” Tom DeLay, the former Republican House majority leader who is helping the National Prayer Center head up the effort, told TheBlaze. ...


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News Item1/27/14 6:49 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Strat, thanks again for your response. I must say that you are a down to earth common sense kind of guy and your post are normally usually to the point. I enjoy reading them and believe you are well grounded in your faith.
I apologize, I am not getting where you are going here. I don't want to misinterpret what you are saying. Could you clarify what you are communicating please? For instance, are you saying that we shouldn't pray for God's intervention in things here below? Are you saying we are not trusting His judgment by trying to influence Him in prayer? Or am I completely off my rocker here. Thanks, God bless.
We should pray for the safety and well being of people but that does more for us than it does for them,God watches over and protects those he chooses to for his own purposes,i doubt that he does it just because someone ask him to,asking him to reveals where our heart is at...its like giving money,he certainly doesn't need it but we need to give it.

Do you think somebody is trusting your judgement if they try to sway you from it ? God knows what he is going to do and he gives us the priviledge of getting on board...how can I say thou will be done and ask for my own will to be done ?

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News Item1/27/14 2:32 PM
John Beechy  Find all comments by John Beechy
Anti-christ? This was spoken a long time ago. I thought America was so great back then? Apparently even then someone had the sense to realize truth that was in plain sight.

William Lloyd Garrison wrote:
"As to the governments of this world, whatever their titles or forms we shall endeavour to prove that in their essential elements, as at present administered, they are all anti-Christ; that they can never by human wisdom be brought into conformity with the will of God; that they cannot be maintained except by naval and military power to carry them into effect; that all their penal enactments, being a dead letter without any army to carry them into effect, are virtually written in human blood; and that the followers of Jesus should instinctively shun their stations of honor, power, and emolument -- at the same time 'submitting to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake' and offering no physical resistance to any of their mandates, however unjust or tyrannical."
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News Item1/27/14 12:25 AM
William Lloyd Garrison  Find all comments by William Lloyd Garrison
"As to the governments of this world, whatever their titles or forms we shall endeavour to prove that in their essential elements, as at present administered, they are all anti-Christ; that they can never by human wisdom be brought into conformity with the will of God; that they cannot be maintained except by naval and military power to carry them into effect; that all their penal enactments, being a dead letter without any army to carry them into effect, are virtually written in human blood; and that the followers of Jesus should instinctively shun their stations of honor, power, and emolument -- at the same time 'submitting to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake' and offering no physical resistance to any of their mandates, however unjust or tyrannical."
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News Item1/26/14 10:52 PM
Unprofitable Servant  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Strat wrote:
What does "come to me all who are heavy laden and I will give you rest" mean....has rest been redefined to mean just more work.
I know why the wicked prosper,because this is their world for now and their god is running it.
I am not Jesus so I will never face what he faced as the virgin born son of God,God in the flesh,knowing all things and reading the thoughts and intentions of men.
I am a sinner saved by grace and I will rest in that.
Strat, thanks again for your response. I must say that you are a down to earth common sense kind of guy and your post are normally usually to the point. I enjoy reading them and believe you are well grounded in your faith.

I apologize, I am not getting where you are going here. I don't want to misinterpret what you are saying. Could you clarify what you are communicating please? For instance, are you saying that we shouldn't pray for God's intervention in things here below? Are you saying we are not trusting His judgment by trying to influence Him in prayer? Or am I completely off my rocker here. Thanks, God bless.

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News Item1/26/14 6:15 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
What does "come to me all who are heavy laden and I will give you rest" mean....has rest been redefined to mean just more work.

I know why the wicked prosper,because this is their world for now and their god is running it.

I am not Jesus so I will never face what he faced as the virgin born son of God,God in the flesh,knowing all things and reading the thoughts and intentions of men.

I am a sinner saved by grace and I will rest in that.

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News Item1/26/14 4:38 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Strat, thanks for your response, I am not totally sure I comprehend the direction your going, so forgive if I am off on a tangent you did not intend.

I see our Lord Jesus struggling with the very purpose for which He came to earth, as He contemplated the sins of His people and the sacrifice needed for those sins. It was humanly speaking more than He could bear, thus He prayed for the removal of that cup, but willing submitted to His Father's will. The pressure was so intense that He sweat as it were great drops of blood in agonizing prayer. Yet He knew it was ordained to happen.

I see Asaph struggle with God over the prosperity of the wicked and how it contrasted with his own daily experiences. Yet, in his struggle, then he came to understand God's viewpoint, was not his struggling good?

I see God specifically telling Elijah that He was going to send rain (I Kings 18:1) which Elijah acknowledge (44)
yet he climbed to the mountain top and prostrated himself down in earnest supplication for that which God had already promised.

Was not Jacob already promised to be blessed by God Almighty? Yet, we see him wrestling all night in prayer requested that God would bless him.

Rom 15:30 Now I beseech you, ..., that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;

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News Item1/26/14 9:51 AM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
I dunno Strat, you answers seems to imply that there is no use in praying. When the Lord was talking about how He would punish the children of Israel for their disobedience He definitely stated if they humble themselves, pray, seek His face and turn from their wickedness, He would heal the land. More than once we see God change the timing from a judgment He pronounced (like Ninevah, Ahab, Hezekiah) in response to the actions and prayers of the people. Even Ezra and the people afflicted themselves and prayed before God for their safety apart from armed help from the king and the Bible says the Lord was entreated of them and gave them safe passage. I agree His prophetic calendar is inevitable and we should seek His glory over our own personal comfort. We pray for revival but nevertheless it is not our will but His be done.
Psalm 85:6
Wilt thou not revive us again: that thy people may rejoice in thee?
Should we serve and submit to God and argue with him at the same time ? my salvation gave me freedom from struggling with life's unsearchable issues and I have no desire to return to that struggle...I cannot hand then over to God and struggle with them at the same time.
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News Item1/25/14 11:21 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
I dunno Strat, you answers seems to imply that there is no use in praying. When the Lord was talking about how He would punish the children of Israel for their disobedience More than once we see God change the timing from a judgment He pronounced (like Ninevah, Ahab, Hezekiah) in response to the actions and prayers of the people. Even Ezra and the people afflicted themselves and prayed before God for their safety apart from armed help from the king and the Bible says the Lord was entreated of them and gave them safe passage. I agree His prophetic calendar is inevitable and we should seek His glory over our own personal comfort. We pray for revival but nevertheless it is not our will but His be done.
Psalm 85:6
Wilt thou not revive us again: that thy people may rejoice in thee?
Amen brother! Although there is a mystery with prayer, I know with certainty that our God does indeed answer our prayers.

[1] I love the LORD, because he hath heard my voice [and] my supplications. [2] Because he hath inclined his ear unto me, therefore will I call upon [him] as long as I live. (Psa 116:1-2 KJV)

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News Item1/25/14 10:32 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Strat wrote:
One of the most difficult....God is in control anyway. I don't think God sets up events that we have no control over and is entertained by our vain attempts to alter them.
I dunno Strat, you answers seems to imply that there is no use in praying. When the Lord was talking about how He would punish the children of Israel for their disobedience He definitely stated if they humble themselves, pray, seek His face and turn from their wickedness, He would heal the land. More than once we see God change the timing from a judgment He pronounced (like Ninevah, Ahab, Hezekiah) in response to the actions and prayers of the people. Even Ezra and the people afflicted themselves and prayed before God for their safety apart from armed help from the king and the Bible says the Lord was entreated of them and gave them safe passage. I agree His prophetic calendar is inevitable and we should seek His glory over our own personal comfort. We pray for revival but nevertheless it is not our will but His be done.

Psalm 85:6

Wilt thou not revive us again: that thy people may rejoice in thee?

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News Item1/25/14 9:18 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
One of the most difficult aspects of Christianity for me is the concept of reading the prophetic parts God's word and somehow praying that it won't happen in my lifetime.

I find it difficult to believe that God would delay his will just because I don't want to live through it,if the current leaders of the country and the world are playing their part in God's ordained history who am I or anyone to request it be delayed for my personal comfort....God is in control anyway.

I don't think God sets up events that we have no control over and is entertained by our vain attempts to alter them.

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News Item1/25/14 10:04 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Did anyone research the article & this 'Josiah' Project of convicted criminal but reversed on appeal Tom Delay? What little I found is that he thinks the US Constitution has a divine foundation? This nation is a covenant one like ancient Israel? His stated deity is not the triune God, but uses 'higher authority' language of deism? He is promoting a book at Hagees Messiah denial temple?

Someone please tell me Im wrong, otherwise I am very disgusted he is allowed to defame King Josiahs name in this vain manner

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News Item1/25/14 9:09 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Good for you, God and then family. Everyone needs a mental health break after speaking to so many different personalities for so long, personalities that can really drain the spirit if we get caught up into it all to heavily.
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News Item1/24/14 11:39 AM
GsTexas  Find all comments by GsTexas
Chris, I agree with your posts. Im not going away, just gonna post less frequently. I just feel it would be expedient for me to take a short break for now, and focus more on my walk with God, and my family.
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News Item1/24/14 11:38 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
B.Rith wrote:
(e) The Arminian religious hypothesis basis - Because verbs are used in the Scripture it must mean human works are essential to permit God to act.
Oh, great. Pure Calvinist rot gut. No verbs allowed!! Go in a corner and suck your thumb.

Extremist much?

I used to go to Baptist churches, and they would insist they are not Calvinist, not Fatalist--but they sure enough ARE Calvinist. 3 pointer Calvinists can be just as obstructionist and corrupting as a 5 pointer. If you try to do anything positive in the world, your salvation is questioned.

At least the Baptists did not question your salvation if you were trying to evangelize -- like B.Rith.

These posts are surreal. I read Anne's post advising Teen Christian to abandon his zeal to be a naturopath. What would she prefer, that he go work in a factory, or whatever, or just sit back and wait for God to dump some money in his lap? Anybody who is only 15 and is trying to warn people about their diet, coming on a Christian (sort of) forum and posting should be encouraged and respected for his zeal, wisdom, potential to serve God.

It's sad to see heresies that reward laziness and discourage people from serving God, doing anything worthwhile.

Disgraceful.

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News Item1/24/14 10:41 AM
B.Rith  Find all comments by B.Rith
CAB wrote:
(a) The Internet is the best opportunity to evangelize the world has ever seen, and
(b) we living in this time have the most opportunity to learn and know the truth.
(c) So if we don't do whatever we can
(d) And if we are wanting Heaven for ourselves, and to escape Hell (God forbid), then we should want
(e) We must be capable of doing this, or Jesus would not have commanded it
(a) What God had to wait until now in these apostate times to do any reasonable and extensive evangelising?
(b) What the modern humans because they are so ""much more educated"" have a greater ability to know the truth?
Do you mean God's output can only increase because of mortal education and quality?
That is sooo based on the Arminian fiction of God requiring human assistance to save anyone!!!!
(c) Arminian work ethic - Human effort - salvation by works. The Roman Catholic ideology has found its natural home in CAB's version of church.
(d) "we" wanting "we" should??? CAB where you have put God in parenthesis - Is that your command to God - Or is He allowed free will?
(e) The Arminian religious hypothesis basis - Because verbs are used in the Scripture it must mean human works are essential to permit God to act.
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News Item1/24/14 9:49 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
My comments may have been a bit over the top now that I think about it more. Afterall, we are talking about taking mental health breaks now and then, as opposed to packing up and leaving altogether which is how I probably came across.
Sorry Dorcas and GS..I'm sure my point was taken but let me just chalk it all up to my general thoughts as opposed to anyone, including myself, taking much needed breaks from time to time.
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News Item1/24/14 9:03 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
Christopher000 wrote:
I should add that I know life exists outside of this board and I'm sure people do plenty and our witness isn't restricted to comments on this forum. Just wanted to be clear. I know you all do what you can, when you can in daily lifw. I just wanted to focus on the usefulness of the forum itself
I agree with you 100 percent. The Internet is the best opportunity to evangelize the world has ever seen, and we living in this time have the most opportunity to learn and know the truth. So if we don't do whatever we can, we might end up like the lazy servant Jesus taught about -- who the Master was furious with because he had done nothing with his opportunities and gifts, was hurled off into OUTER darkness with loud condemnations and great wrath.

Scary? I think so.

And if we are wanting Heaven for ourselves, and to escape Hell (God forbid), then we should want to help others do the same. Going back to the First Commandment, and as Jesus taught it how you do all the commandments summed up into one: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul; and your neighbor as yourself."

We must be capable of doing this, or Jesus would not have commanded it. Bible says be a doer of the Word, not a forgetful hearer.

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News Item1/24/14 8:43 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I should add that I know life exists outside of this board and I'm sure people do plenty and our witness isn't restricted to comments on this forum. Just wanted to be clear. I know you all do what you can, when you can in daily lifw. I just wanted to focus on the usefulness of the forum itself
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News Item1/24/14 8:39 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
The way I always look at it is that eternity is forever; we have one chance to get it right so if one person, just one, can be saved from the fire, by whatever it takes, no matter how long it takes, and no matter how frustrating it may be at times, it's worth the effort. We can talk to one particular person until our faces turn blue. Maybe they will get it one day, maybe they won't, but how many others, silent others are being reached in the meantime? 10? 5? 1? I'll take even one.
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News Item1/24/14 8:30 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
...what about that one who's life may have been changed, or that one who decided not to kill themself, whether we ever know it or not, or what about the one who rededicated their life to Christ because the obvious love for Christ outweighs the occassional garbage and they recognized it pierced their heart?
Let's say the answer is one. Is just one lousy number worth all the trouble?
Hope I didn't offend anyone.
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