CAS wrote: My understanding is that a main driver of forming ECO as opposed to joining other moderately conservative pres denominations was the issue that the alternatives don't accept female pastoral ordination.
Apparently you are correct, CAS, there's probably a much larger move by the laity individually to perhaps more conservative churches that don't allow homosexuals or women as preachers, q.v., [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/RD-001WP.htm]]]Women Preachers[/URL].
My understanding is that a main driver of forming ECO as opposed to joining other moderately conservative pres denominations was the issue that the alternatives don't accept female pastoral ordination.
Good to see Presbyterians separating themselves from the Liberals. This is happening in other countries too. I hope they learn from the satanic mistakes and influences from whence they came and stick closely to the Bible for all service and worship. There are so many sinful practices which can lead to the leaven poison of Liberalism which can leaven the whole lump and bring Satan and sin into control in the churches. Arminianism and human hymns being dangerous seeds to plant with effects which can be observed in established congregations today. Ultimately it is in God's hands and their "wholehearted" or "otherwise" commitment to Scripture which will stand the test of time or find them wanting.
It won't help to break away if the reason for its going liberal is not dealt with. Short term fixes mean short term solutions which will have to be dealt with some time in the future. In the meantime, confusion and fragmentation continues apace.
Over 10k congregations in the pcusa who are happy to have active queers in office? Can only mean unregenerate church membership.