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TUESDAY, OCT 29, 2013  |  31 comments  |  1 commentary
Rand Paul warns of eugenics

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Monday warned that the combination of abortion and scientific advances could one day lead to the practice of eugenics -- i.e. trying to improve the human race through selection of desirable traits.

The remarks came during an appearance with Virginia gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli in Lynchburg, Va.


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Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Interesting
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News Item10/31/13 8:05 AM
krip  Find all comments by krip
"he whom thou now hast is not thy husband"
John 4:18

Lisa wrote:
No we also use the word mate for pal or friend- and often say ' alright mate' as a greeting.
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News Item10/31/13 5:23 AM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
No we also use the word mate for pal or friend- and often say ' alright mate' as a greeting.
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News Item10/30/13 9:39 PM
lullu  Find all comments by lullu
Lisa wrote:
my mate dave ... I saw my mate dave
Standard U.S. English usage would include the word "husband" in this context. "Mate" must be synonymous with "husband" in the United Kingdom.
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News Item10/30/13 7:44 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Regarding your comments about caring for elderly parents- don't want to be negative but- in an ideal world I think that it is honourable and worthy and to be aspired to but in reality I think we should accept that it's not always possible. Just a few examples - my mate dave looked after ( he devoted his life to looking after) his mum who had dementia. But in the end she became very aggressive and it was simply not a possibility. In my training I have worked with elderly dementia patients and they are known to be the most disturbed of all behaviourally challenging patients. Both my patents have died and so I did not get the pleasure of having their company on their old age- things in the real world do Occasionally not work out as we mIght want them to work out in the ideal world and we
Must never judge a person for not bring able to cope- I saw my mate dave and even though his mum ended up in a unit, I take my hat of to him as he did a grand job.
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News Item10/29/13 10:37 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Thanks Penny! We most surely will!
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News Item10/29/13 7:14 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
oh Anne, I know, been through similar things, just pray for them and keep the door open....
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News Item10/29/13 5:58 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Dorcas, amen to the blessings God gives, and more freely than we deserve! Baby Five is growing well and we're all excited for Feb to come so we can all see them face to face! You have a wonderful week as well; you'll be in our prayers as always!
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News Item10/29/13 5:31 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Yes Anne..Elizabeth grew up in Maine under the wise and loving care of two devoted to the Lord parents ,Edward and Elizabeth Payson.
It is written in her biography that she and her husband George sought to follow the example of her parents in their own marriage. What a legacy to leave to your family!
I am most blessed in all things dear sister ..
Thank you for asking.
I trust all is well with you and yours?
Take real good care of yourself and know you are prayed for.
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News Item10/29/13 5:11 PM
femaleconomics  Find all comments by femaleconomics
Frank wrote:
feminism has left the home vacant.
And spawned thousands of co-pastors in the pulpit. These hurricane force winds seem to have blown I Tim 2 and I Cor 14 out of our Bibles.
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News Item10/29/13 5:09 PM
Mr. Marty McD | usa  Find all comments by Mr. Marty McD
Jim, Jude told us, " Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, ‚ÄúThe Lord rebuke you!‚ÄĚ Perhaps next time you could let this dignitary speak for a righteous cause without tearing into him.
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News Item10/29/13 5:03 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Hi Dorcas! With your hearty approval I look forward all the more to reading this! I've read a few pages in and can quite humbly say I am disgusted by seeing myself! Please let someone kick this child into gear! The hymn! Yes! That is how I know the name!! She was the daughter of a Puritan minister if I remember correctly. Well, while I don't have hours to read in this season of life, I am looking forward to digging into a good book! All is well with you I pray?
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News Item10/29/13 4:51 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Btw the name is familiar because she wrote the hymn More Love To Thee.
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News Item10/29/13 4:49 PM
Dorcas | USA  Find all comments by Dorcas
Hi Anne...sorry to but in on this great conversation I just ad to tell you how blessed you will be by reading Stepping Heavenward.I lent my copy out 2 years ago and am still waiting for it.
I think I will download on my IPad too!
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News Item10/29/13 4:22 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Thank you Frank! Sadly, I never thought of that - with both husband and wife out of the house, it very well could be placing a burden on the family; tragic.
I just downloaded Prentiss's book to my iPad. Sounds like a good read! Now I have to figure out why that name so familiar.

Thanks Michael; pray we will! Say hi to the family from the bunch of us. Your dad's a real special guy!

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News Item10/29/13 4:11 PM
Michael H | Helena  Find all comments by Michael H
My mother passed on about 6 years ago. My father tried living on his own but some physical ailments kept him from doing this well and my wife and I were relieved when he finally agreed to move in with us two years ago. I've always been close to my father. I too heard the same "I don't want to be a burden" from Dad until his brother came to visit. He can be a bit of a conspiracy guy but he laid out what he said were "the facts" to Dad, pointing out it was my job to care for him. Uncle told him that eugenics has been alive and well as an under current. He said something to the effect "At the moment, eugenics says you can't drive granny and grandpop into the desert and leave them there. But if you convince granny and grandpop that they should drive themselves, problem solved!" Dad moved in with us a few months later.

Anne, keep praying and maybe God will open the right doors for your parents to see what you and your husband do when the time is right.

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News Item10/29/13 4:04 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Anne wrote:
Frank, I was wondering if my parents "we don't want to be a burden" thought was eugenics-slipped-under-the-rug. It has been fed for so long, I see all of our kids' great-grandparents who are still living saying the same thing. The last thing any of them would be is a burden to us - besides, what a great way for our kids to learn that area of family dynamics and the passing on of information... So much lost... And you're sure right - the 1940's kids grew up to have smaller families and the country has continued down this road. There will be many, many lonely people in the decades to come. I would like to bless my parents by NOT having them choose between living facilities at some point, but it's like talking to the wall.
Well Anne, I sincerely hope your parents change their minds. I think perhaps your situation is an exception to the rule. Most aging parents don't have the choice as to where they will spend their declining years; their children do in fact think they are burdens and both are in the work force anyway. If you ever want to read something interesting from an 1800s family that is quite good, but very long, this is a good one. Just google it and you will find the link.

Stepping Heavenward by
Elizabeth Prentiss

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News Item10/29/13 3:52 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Frank, I was wondering if my parents "we don't want to be a burden" thought was eugenics-slipped-under-the-rug. It has been fed for so long, I see all of our kids' great-grandparents who are still living saying the same thing. The last thing any of them would be is a burden to us - besides, what a great way for our kids to learn that area of family dynamics and the passing on of information... So much lost... And you're sure right - the 1940's kids grew up to have smaller families and the country has continued down this road. There will be many, many lonely people in the decades to come. I would like to bless my parents by NOT having them choose between living facilities at some point, but it's like talking to the wall.
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News Item10/29/13 3:38 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Anne wrote:
Frank, Penny - what could one do if they realize this, desiring to offer their aged parents this return to biblical family care, but the parents refused because they don't want "to be a burden"? We pray and they say it isn't necessary anymore to place such a burden on a family; they would not be a burden. The years seem to have whittled away at nearly every biblical guideline that concerns the family. I would love to think it is not all lost for my parents generation. Do you think it would be appropriate to draw an inference that this mentality is simply a long extension of eugenics-thought?
I personally would not connect taking care of our aging parents to eugenics. My thought is why would our parents think they were burdens. Note: my dad died in 1978 and my mom in 1999. My dad died quickly in the hospital and my mom was too sick to be on her own and lived with my sister for several years and then died at her home. I think it is primarily due to the destruction of the family and that we have allowed culture to dictate how we live instead of God's word dictating how we live.

My thought still stands, how can aging parents choose to live with their adult children, if there is no one there.

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News Item10/29/13 3:24 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Frank, Penny - what could one do if they realize this, desiring to offer their aged parents this return to biblical family care, but the parents refused because they don't want "to be a burden"? We pray and they say it isn't necessary anymore to place such a burden on a family; they would not be a burden. The years seem to have whittled away at nearly every biblical guideline that concerns the family. I would love to think it is not all lost for my parents generation. Do you think it would be appropriate to draw an inference that this mentality is simply a long extension of eugenics-thought?
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