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FRONT PAGE  |  4/20/2019
MONDAY, OCT 21, 2013  |  20 comments
Christian sues over Sunday shifts

Children’s care worker Celestina Mba, 58, will say that an employer has a duty to “reasonably accommodate” the beliefs of a Christian worker.

Ms Mba brought the original claim after her employer, which offers 24-hour care for disabled children, would not promise her that she would never be put on shift on a Sunday.

The Baptist and mother of three told The Sunday Times she had faced criticism for her stance but argued she was not trying to impose her beliefs on anyone else.


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News Item10/27/13 2:16 PM
Ignorance of Heresy | Canada  Find all comments by Ignorance of Heresy
She has no biblical basis, only the Sabbath is Biblical as a basis for physical rest, not the Papist Sunday which was created out of jew hate and enforced through violence from the time of Constantine.

http://www.seventhdaybaptist.org/content/sabbath

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News Item10/23/13 2:36 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Randy Ward wrote:
although I agree with her as a Christian wanting to protect the Sabbath, but now all the sudden so called Christians will be coming out of the woodwork so they don't have to work Sunday stay home and watch football
So, very true, Randy except of course, Saturday, the Shabbat, is the Sabbath not Sunday. [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonssource&sermonID=92402115618]]]Legalism is Shadow, Christ is Substance[/URL].

I would think many good Republicans here would tell her, she has to follow the wishes of her employer, and if she doesn't like it, go work for someone else. I know that in a manufacturing plant, people who wanted to have Friday, Saturday, or Sunday off are looked upon as you have suggested Randy. Workers are a slave to the clock.

Ephesians 6
5Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear, with trembling, and along with sincerity, as when you obey Christ. 6Do not do this only while being watched in order to please them, but be like slaves of Christ who do God's will from the heart. 7Serve willingly, as if you were serving the Lord and not merely people. 8For you know that everyone will receive a reward from the Lord for whatever good he has done, whether he is a slave or free

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News Item10/23/13 8:28 AM
Randy Ward | house  Find all comments by Randy Ward
although I agree with her as a Christian wanting to protect the Sabbath, but now all the sudden so called Christians will be coming out of the woodwork so they don't have to work Sunday stay home and watch football
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News Item10/21/13 6:02 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
CV wrote:
I wondered about that too when I first read it.

This passing of the headship from the father to the husbund is a biblical principal that is not going to find acceptance today. So much so, that (not enough space but) God gave the Father the authority to revoke a vow made by a daughter. That authority was given over to the husband at marriage. This was true at the very first marriage where God gave the bride and the headship and authority of that family was given to Adam. Eve was not the head and her sin did not bind Adam.

Very good CV. The verses you are referring to are Number 30:1-12 for anyone who wishes to read them. Most people don't even know that principle existed.
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News Item10/21/13 5:45 PM
CV  Find all comments by CV
Lady_Virtue wrote:
I did notice that in the article, this woman is referred to as "Ms"; in a older article "Miss." Yet, the article describes her as a mother of three.
I wondered about that too when I first read it.

Lady_Virtue wrote:
Sadly, many women cast off the protective covering of their fathers in their youth and reject having husbands in favor of "careers, freedom, and independence." which is a rejection of God's creation order.
This passing of the headship from the father to the husbund is a biblical principal that is not going to find acceptance today. So much so, that (not enough space but) God gave the Father the authority to revoke a vow made by a daughter. That authority was given over to the husband at marriage. This was true at the very first marriage where God gave the bride and the headship and authority of that family was given to Adam. Eve was not the head and her sin did not bind Adam.
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News Item10/21/13 5:04 PM
Angela Wittman | Southern IL  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
"If successful, the case would establish new religious rights in the workplace and could lead to other Christians refusing to work on the Sabbath." (from the article)

Just thought I would post this excerpt because our culture is becoming more anti-Christ and hostile to Christians every day; I truly tremble for the future. Folks, if we don't get on the offensive, we are going to face harsh persecution - and this will not only effect us, but our children and grandchildren as well. May God have mercy and wake-up His church. In Lord Jesus Name I pray, amen.

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News Item10/21/13 4:50 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Romans 14 vs 1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, not to doubtful disputations. Vs 5 one man esteameth one day above another, another esteameth each day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day , regardeth it unto the lord ; and he that regardeth not the day, to the lord he doth not regard it.
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News Item10/21/13 1:21 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
SF, Anne, Carol and Lady Virtue. What great comments! All of you have blessed me today. Thanks!
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News Item10/21/13 1:20 PM
Anne | The Wils  Find all comments by Anne
Weren't jumping on ya US! I know what you were saying!
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News Item10/21/13 12:21 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
I am not having an issue with the interpretation of the passages SF mentioned, am saying you even have an example of Ruth, a single woman, working outside the home in the Bible. In Proverbs 31, when she goes into the city and sells her wares, that is work performed outside the home. I am not trying to advocate for two income homes to the neglect of children. What has only been touched on in comments is what we don't know, if she is a single mom, if she is a widow, is she married but her husband is disabled, if maybe he is incarcerated. I think she is wrong to be bring the lawsuit. I appreciate SF and all the other ladies emphasizing the importance of stay at home moms following the Biblical pattern. Just saying I don't know, as was implied by SF original post, that the lady is in violation of Scripture for working. Not trying to jump on to SF, sorry if I came across that way.
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News Item10/21/13 11:50 AM
Angela Wittman | SW Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Good! Glad to see Christians taking a stand and if needed, legal action as well.

I haven't closely read the comments posted, but let's remember that not all Christians can live according to God's Word 100% of the time. There are many factors involved here that we just don't know... I believe it was Elizabeth Elliot who counseled Christian women to submit to their husbands and this included working outside the home if he requests it. And if a woman is single she really should have some work to do rather than be idle, IMO.

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News Item10/21/13 11:17 AM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Thank you for the encouragement Carol. I have to agree that it's refreshing when Christian women stand up for the word of God-especially in times as such where feminist teaching is dominant in the "church".
Anne, what a wonderful thing to be told.
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News Item10/21/13 11:03 AM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
SF, received an oh-so-encouraging note
from an older gentleman from church the other day. He commented on how we raise our daughters nowadays "...to be independent, create in them a spirit of independence to help them be better wives and mothers. But this is balderdash. It is unbiblical! You were created to be dependent upon a man, be it father, brother or husband - ultimately Christ. Outside of these, you are only a shell carrying womanly assets, nothing more. Your fulfillment to God is in a specific, necessary, beautiful, godly-purposed role. Where such a man is absent, to Christ you give your all IF and until He places such a man in your life. Please continue to raise your daughter to know this."

We have lost this sound, blessed biblical teaching. It has cost our girls and now the women around us more than we can recover in this generation. (Btw, before I get the "not every woman has a father/brother,etc...", God purposed for those circumstances, too! Ruth, 1 Peter 3, Esther, widows' role. He left not one of His daughters without spiritual guidance for their station in life.)

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News Item10/21/13 10:51 AM
Carol  Find all comments by Carol
You are biblical in this matter SF and Anne.
Glad to see sisters in Christ speaking up on these issues and taking the narrow (and unpopular) biblical road.
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News Item10/21/13 10:42 AM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
The Proverbs 31 woman did not work outside the home. She had a job but it was not outside her God given sphere. Single or not, God gave her a place. That's at home. I'm not against women working but I am against then working outside the home and putting their career first. There's numerous things a woman can do to make a modest income at home. Many God fearing women do it. Given it's hard but when is it ever easy for a woman to be on her own (if this woman even is).
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News Item10/21/13 10:38 AM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Women working outside the family circle is unbiblical. We are commanded in Titus 2 to do our all for our family; however unpopular, SF is right. Back in Eden, after the fall, God cursed Eve in childbearing and Adam in hard labor - too many of our husbands and women condem women (themselves) to BOTH curses. Our curse was not toiling labor for the support of family, although in Proverbs 31 we are to be strong for the work we are called to.

My husband pointed out that the woman in this article has little information included about herself so I assumed since she was refered to as "Ms." there was likely no husband involvement. Often these types of jobs allow single women some schedule movement to accommodate their childrens' schedule. I was simply commenting on the number of Christians who seem to be acting like the homosexual agenda group who purposely take a job that does not meet their "requirements" and then complain and sue for the discrimination they face. We shouldn't cause such disputes this way! It smears Christianity at best and, at worst, demotes us into another bickering, bitter group of religious nuts.

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News Item10/21/13 10:10 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
SF from X wrote:
My question is, why is she working outside the home in the first place? 1 Timothy 5:14 and Titus 2:5 (KJV).
SF from X wrote:
My question is, why is she working outside the home in the first place? 1 Timothy 5:14 and Titus 2:5 (KJV).
Try Proverbs 31 or the book of Ruth before you condemn women working outside the home. Also, unless I missed it, there is no indication as to whether she is a single mom. Could be her husband is disabled, or possibly imprisoned or she may be a widow. We just don't have all the facts. Just saying, we need not be quick to jump to a conclusion without having all the facts.

Agree with Anne, if she didn't want to work on Sunday evenings then she should not have taken this job. She says she was not trying to impose here beliefs on anyone else but is suing to impose them on her employer.

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News Item10/21/13 9:58 AM
Lady_Virtue | OKC  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lady_Virtue
SF from X wrote:
My question is, why is she working outside the home in the first place? 1 Timothy 5:14 and Titus 2:5 (KJV).
Thank you for asking this; my question exactly.

I did notice that in the link to the article, this woman is referred to as "Ms"; in a older article about her linked to this one, she's called "Miss." Yet, the newer article describes her as a mother of three. She may not even be married, despite having children. I'm not totally sure.

Sadly, many women cast off the protective covering of their fathers in their youth and reject having husbands in favor of "careers, freedom, and independence." So that pretty much means they have to work. I don't know if this is true of this particular woman, but this is a huge problem in many countries in the world, in any case, "thanks" to feminism, which is a rejection of God's creation order.

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News Item10/21/13 9:34 AM
SF from X  Find all comments by SF from X
My question is, why is she working outside the home in the first place? 1 Timothy 5:14 and Titus 2:5 (KJV).
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News Item10/21/13 9:07 AM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
There are things that must be done on the Lord's Day - sick people in the hospitals need care; criminals need to be dealt with; fires need to be put out; etc. Disabled children need care and as this mother has three children of her own, she should be well aware that this includes weekends. This is not a correct representation of Christianity in motion for Christ healed on the Sabbath. There would be so many opportunities to draw those she serves on Sunday into a circle of worship - what a lost opportunity! Instead she will be lumped into the Muslim costume tirades, Atheist complaints and agnostic arguments and she'll STILL loose.
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