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FRONT PAGE  |  11/23/2017
SUNDAY, SEP 29, 2013  |  23 comments  |  2 commentaries
Pastor Says 'Church Sucks,' Mixes Worship With Katy Perry, Maroon 5

A Eugene, Ore., pastor who thinks churches focus too much on sin and not enough on connecting people to God, is now trying to appeal to people who have been hurt by churches through a campaign called "Church Sucks" featuring shorter services and music by Katy Perry and Maroon 5 at his church, One Love.

Among the differences, according to the report, are shorter services lasting just over half an hour, the mixing of modern and contemporary music from artists like Maroon 5 and Katie Perry with worship music, and a leader who is a pastor, not a preacher. ...


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Sunnyfla | Plantation  Find all comments by Sunnyfla
[QUOTE]My family and I go to this church and I am so sickened by what is happening. Me and my 16 year old daughter are checking out a new church today. She even see's how wrong they are. Now to get my husband and 17 year old son to open their eyes.
[AUTHOR]Michael Bonilla De Jesus[/AUTHOR]There's a church here in South Florida called church by the glades that does this same crap. They play Rhianna n Kanye West and other secular music as worship n they have lasers n fog machines like a frickin disco club. And there so called Pastor pulls stunts on the so called altar like preaching his whole sermon on an elliptical machine or walking on the altar with a tiger or driving a Lamborghini on the altar. It's like church for retards. It's sad that these people do these things. The word of God alone should be sufficient entertainment..it should be enough to grasp our attention. Smh this is sad[/QUOTE]
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News Item10/3/13 12:02 AM
someonewhoknows  Find all comments by someonewhoknows
I am very surprised that you people feel free to comment with having so little information to support your wild assumptions. I thank God above that He alone gets to judge and not people who seem to act like a bunch of Pharisees. Which of you can say who is a Christian? Do you dare to put yourself on God's level? Shame on you!
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News Item9/30/13 11:52 AM
Michael Bonilla De Jesus | Miami FL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Michael Bonilla De Jesus
There's a church here in South Florida called church by the glades that does this same crap. They play Rhianna n Kanye West and other secular music as worship n they have lasers n fog machines like a frickin disco club. And there so called Pastor pulls stunts on the so called altar like preaching his whole sermon on an elliptical machine or walking on the altar with a tiger or driving a Lamborghini on the altar. It's like church for retards. It's sad that these people do these things. The word of God alone should be sufficient entertainment..it should be enough to grasp our attention. Smh this is sad
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News Item9/30/13 9:56 AM
Lady_Virtue | OKC  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lady_Virtue
We truly are "amused to death" in today's culture. It is exceedingly difficult to escape from entertainment; it's sad when the church is dishing out the same escapism as the world.

As for this "pastor's" description of church, I think it is more befitting of the "music" of Katy Perry and Maroon 5.

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News Item9/29/13 9:05 PM
Ryan | NH  Find all comments by Ryan
Another sad attempt of man trying to bring God down to our level. Why in the world would someone have secular music in a CHURCH service? Isn't the point of church giving glory to God. There is no way God is glorified in the life of Katie Perry or any other Hollywood actor/singer. Also, crude and improper language in church is not acceptable. I'd be interested to see how many people actually attend there... So sad...
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News Item9/29/13 5:18 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Gs from Texas- amen, only visible to those with eyes that see.
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News Item9/29/13 4:30 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Psalms Only wrote:
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God wrote the Bible.
God wrote the Psalms.
Psalms is God ordained worship.
Hymns written by sinners is ...???
Naturally, the Psalm writers were not sinners at all. Why did God write:

Psalm 42:9 I will say unto God my rock, Why hast thou forgotten me? why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?

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News Item9/29/13 4:23 PM
MG | Australia  Find all comments by MG
This pastor makes the comment that churches expect people to be perfect before they come in. I think he's got a bit of a point in that one actually. Perhaps it's something we all tend to fall for once we've been a Christian for some time (once we've learnt to put on our "perfect" masks for others to see)! However, this has got to lead us back to GOD and His ways, not to the ways of the world! In going to the ways of the world for the answers, he (and we, if we do the same) is actually rejecting GOD - is he not!? He's living in the ways of Cain, who wouldn't humble himself to follow in GOD's path, but chose for himself a different man-centred path that leads to eternal death! We can only pay that GOD will open men's eyes to differentiate between man's "church" and His true and set-apart one.
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News Item9/29/13 4:17 PM
FG | USA  Find all comments by FG
Looks like this little euphemism this pastor uses can be more accurately applied to his own church.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 3:8-9 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

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News Item9/29/13 4:13 PM
Silofolous | USA  Find all comments by Silofolous
Exactly, GS Texas. They might as well call it "God's Bride Sucks". It's the same thing.
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News Item9/29/13 3:05 PM
Eric Erwin | Amarillo  Find all comments by Eric Erwin
Another man centered so called "church" preaching false assurance no repentance, sin or holiness. But I bet their coffee is really good though (add sarcasm).
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News Item9/29/13 12:59 PM
Gs Texas | Texas  Find all comments by Gs Texas
This Guy should think twice before he says "Church Sucks."The Church is not a building or denomination, but The Body of Christ. So in essence he is saying Jesus sucks. This Guy is not a Christian nor is his reprobate "church" if you could call of that. Read about the early church in Acts. Plenty of preaching on sin, and TRUE worship of God. Unless this guy repents, Gods wrath abides on him.

Galations 6:7-8 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to spirit shall of the spirit reap life everlasting."

2 Corinthians 6:17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."

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News Item9/29/13 12:32 PM
Steven | USA  Find all comments by Steven
Enter....the apostate church.
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News Item9/29/13 12:23 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Psalms Only wrote:
JY
I am so glad that a non-Christian such as yourself is a supporter of uninspired hymns. Helps my Biblical cause immensely.
Then you are stating that the Protestant Reformers, Baptists and other Evangelical Protestants were and are not Christians either for using hymns instead of psalms? Does your church utilize psalms only for worhsip music? Just who do you think you are to state categorically that I am not a Christian? Do you have the ability like Jesus to look into anybody's heart to tell if they are a Christian or not?
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News Item9/29/13 12:22 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
2 these 2 vs 3
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News Item9/29/13 12:13 PM
Psalms Only  Find all comments by Psalms Only
John Yurich USA wrote:
The Protestant Reformers were not even mentally deranged and psychotic enough to believe the only acceptable worship music is the psalms and not hymns. Only someone who is mentally deranged and psychotic believes that the only acceptable worship music is he psalms and not hymns.
JY
I am so glad that a non-Christian such as yourself is a supporter of uninspired hymns. Helps my Biblical cause immensely.
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News Item9/29/13 11:57 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Psalms Only wrote:
"the mixing of modern and contemporary music from artists like Maroon 5 and Katie Perry with worship music, and a leader who is a pastor"
A modern Liberal "entertainment" church.
Of course this was all started with hymn singing replacing the Word of God - Psalms.
Hymn singing the pandering to the human emotion instead of the worship of God leads to the abandonment of Scripture and ultimately to Liberalism where human entertainment is the idol of their worship.
God wrote the Bible.
God wrote the Psalms.
Psalms is God ordained worship.
Hymns written by sinners is ...???
The Protestant Reformers were not even mentally deranged and psychotic enough to believe the only acceptable worship music is the psalms and not hymns. Only someone who is mentally deranged and psychotic believes that the only acceptable worship music is he psalms and not hymns.
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News Item9/29/13 11:25 AM
Psalms Only  Find all comments by Psalms Only
"the mixing of modern and contemporary music from artists like Maroon 5 and Katie Perry with worship music, and a leader who is a pastor"

A modern Liberal "entertainment" church.

Of course this was all started with hymn singing replacing the Word of God - Psalms.

Hymn singing the pandering to the human emotion instead of the worship of God leads to the abandonment of Scripture and ultimately to Liberalism where human entertainment is the idol of their worship.

God wrote the Bible.
God wrote the Psalms.
Psalms is God ordained worship.
Hymns written by sinners is ...???

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News Item9/29/13 10:22 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
most will fall away when there's a cost to following Christ. that's why we all need to be praying for each other and we need solid teaching from pastors more than ever. the prosperity gospel and evangelical crusades ("if we do this, God is on our side") is on trial. prosperity is not always a sign of God's favor.
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News Item9/29/13 8:33 AM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Another "you can have your cake and eat it too" church. This move to add secular music to the singing portions of "church" services has swelled in popularity over the last few years. You can find many churches, especially charismatics, playing secular tunes before their service begins. Brian's right, it is God's church - this Oregon "leader who is a pastor, not a preacher" (?!) has nothing to do with Him...
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