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FRONT PAGE  |  11/21/2017
TUESDAY, JUL 16, 2013  |  16 comments
Egypt's Christians target of Islamist anger in wake of Morsi's ouster
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Earlier this month, four Copts were murdered and 23 houses of Christian families looted and burned in the southern Egyptian village of Dabaaya. Copts say the violence against them has worsened since the ouster of President Mohammed Morsi. (MCNdirect.com/Ramy)

Egypt’s Muslim extremists, angry over the ouster of Mohammed Morsi from the presidency, have zeroed in on the nation’s Christian minority, scapegoating them even though the Islamist leader was widely unpopular.

On Thursday, the body of a Christian merchant abducted last week from the town of Sheikh Zweid was found decapitated in Egypt’s northern Sinai Peninsula. The grisly discovery came as attacks on Copts and their churches have escalated amid rumors that Christian leaders masterminded Morsi’s removal. ...


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News Item8/18/13 5:22 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
jpw wrote:
title "Open Doors World Watch List Egypt"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdN9x9n56OA
oh, yes, believers do exist there, in the harshest of circumstances, even though we dismiss them as of a primary concern.
Very true
Harsh circumstances is where you find true Christians because reprobates are all too eager to convert away to a 'faith' where they can persecute Gods People
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News Item8/18/13 5:14 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
SteveR wrote:
vendetta
SteveR
vendetta? I have to hand it to you RC apologists and ecumenical promoters in how you are so expert in being spiritually blind to the utter blasphemous heresies of Mariolotry, the worship of the rc eucharist, the lie of purgatory, the myth of apostalic succession to the papacy.

God Himself has told us the Truth in Scripture and (quote) funny (it really isn't) the Lord Jesus Christ is NOT and in no way Allah as CCC 841 seems to imply so while my ancestors were caught up in paganism, it seems the RCC has invented their own

AND of course for those who are genuinely born again of the Spirit of God IMHO I believe it is quite safe to say we really do not want to see Catholic people perish in blasphemous idolatry and unbelief to stand guilty before the God they only imagined they were serving.

If you call that a "vendetta" no telling what you will call the judgment of the Great Harlot when God pours out on her the wrath her sins deserve and people weep at the very real faith Cahtolic people could have had in what God Himself say to us in the Bible (not the magisterium and tradition of the RCC)

Thanks for reminding me of how utterly lost people are apart from the Truth of Christ.

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News Item8/18/13 5:12 PM
Plustixos | Hu  Find all comments by Plustixos
SteveR wrote:
1) They are Coptic not RCC
1. "The Coptic Catholic Church is an Alexandrian Rite particular Church in full communion with the Roman Catholic Church (Wiki)

2. "The Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria is the official name for the largest Christian church in Egypt and the Middle East.
The Church belongs to the Oriental Orthodox family of churches, which has been a distinct church body since the Council of Chalcedon in AD 451, when it took a different position over Christological theology from that of the Eastern Orthodox Church" (Wiki)

NB: Like the papal antichrist's Roman Church these churches are also idolatrous and blasphemous.

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News Item8/18/13 4:52 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
title "Open Doors World Watch List Egypt"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdN9x9n56OA

oh, yes, believers do exist there, in the harshest of circumstances, even though we dismiss them as of a primary concern.

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News Item8/18/13 4:16 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Michael Hranek wrote:
SteveR
While it is good to pray for anyone attacked by Muslims (including their fellow Muslims) people should not imagine that because a group has been attacked, such as Roman Catholic (quote) churches they are necessarily a genuine church made up individuals truly born again of the Holy Spirit. For those who are not saved, including those who ask for prayer for people being attacked by Muslims, Homosexuals or whatever, believers ought to pray for their salvation (which of course can draw attacks not just from Muslims but from Catholics and others such as pro-Darwinian evolutionists too).
1) They are Coptic not RCC
2) They were a Church when your ancestors were still worshipping trees, ancestors damned like yourself to perdition
3) My request for prayer was sent out to authentic Born Again Christians, not the spiritually blind that would use tragedy to advance their own futile vendetta
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News Item8/18/13 3:55 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
JPW, forgive for being dense here. I am not disputing that we (the U.S.) are funding what is going in the middle east.
I see you've had an epiphany.

let's let that sink in.

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News Item8/18/13 3:29 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
SteveR wrote:
Prayer request: 50 Churches attacked in Egypt
SteveR
While it is good to pray for anyone attacked by Muslims (including their fellow Muslims) people should not imagine that because a group has been attacked, such as Roman Catholic (quote) churches they are necessarily a genuine church made up individuals truly born again of the Holy Spirit. For those who are not saved, including those who ask for prayer for people being attacked by Muslims, Homosexuals or whatever, believers ought to pray for their salvation (which of course can draw attacks not just from Muslims but from Catholics and others such as pro-Darwinian evolutionists too).
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News Item8/18/13 10:05 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Prayer request: 50 Churches attacked in Egypt
Alexandria
Maximus Church
Arish St George Church
Assiut
Good Shepherds, Michael Church
St George Coptic Church
Al-Eslah Church| Burned
Adventist Church | Pastor kidnapped
St Therese Church
Apostles Church |Burning
Holy Revival Church |Burning
Qusiya Diocese
Beni Suef
St George Church
Cairo
St Fatima Basilica Virgin Mary’s Church | Hakim Village Burned

Fayoum St Mary Church | El Nazlah
St Damiana Church |burned
Amir Tawadros Church
Evangelical Church | al-Zorby|Church of Joseph | Burned
Franciscan School | Burned
Gharbiya
Giza
Antonios
Atfeeh Bishopric
Minya
Church of the Virgin Mary and Father Abram | Delga, Deir Mawas
St Mina Church | Abu Hilal Beni Hilal
Baptist Church | Beni Mazar
Monastery | Deir Mawas
Delga Church | Attacked Fathers Church |
St Mark Church |St Joseph Nunnery
Amir Tadros Church
Evangelical Church
al-Aswad Church
Apostles Church
Qena
St Mary’s Church
Sohag
St George Church
St Damiana | burned
Virgin Mary | burned
St Mark Church Anba Abram Church | burned
Suez
St Saviours Anglican Church
Franciscan Church and School| Burned
Holy Shepherd Monastery and Hospital
Good Shepherd Church Greek Orthodox Church

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News Item7/16/13 4:30 PM
Galter  Find all comments by Galter
"The Obama administration issued a quiet warning to Egypt on Thursday using diplomatic and veiled language: Quit arresting members of the Muslim Brotherhood, or the United States will freeze up aid.

Muslim-Brotherhood-backed Mohammed Morsi was toppled from his presidency by Egypt’s military on July 3. Since, Muslim Brotherhood members have been rallying in Cairo, calling for his return to office.

The United States, which backed Mr. Morsi’s presidency, is continuing to provide aid to the nation, but has been watching the chaos, trying to determine the best national security strategy."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/

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News Item7/16/13 4:08 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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I am sure glad John McCain didn't get elected. One has to wonder why he is so dedicated in supporting the Islamist cause?
Oh yawn. More historical revisionism. Who is it publicly supported the "Arab Spring"? Who is it continued to fund the Morsi/Muslim Brotherhood with billions in funds and fighter jets?
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News Item7/16/13 4:08 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
jpw wrote:
US -- perhaps you might go listen to trunews, last night's topic and think that over. I read last year that we were going to fund rebels to go into Syria. what is there not to understand? I have posted debates within congress where Rand Paul says, you know, we are funding those who are killing Christians and the republican congressmen say, yes, we know, but we've got to have a part in these things, to further our agenda? the truth is standing before us, but evangelicals are so sure of their storyline, that they have stopped listening.
JPW, forgive for being dense here. I am not disputing that we (the U.S.) are funding what is going in the middle east. My question is seeing that the church has no control over how U.S. tax dollars are spent how are we (the church)culpable?
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News Item7/16/13 3:02 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
"Muslim fundamentalists are killing our priests, kidnapping our women and burning our churches. Since the 2011 revolution, Coptics like me have lived in fear of our lives. I’m being forced to live apart from my family because of my faith." excerpt from, Muslim extremists kill our priests, burn our churches and kidnap our women: How Egypt's Arab Spring dream descended into a nightmare of religious hatred. This is really nothing new about, Islam's Global War against Christianity.

I am sure glad John McCain didn't get elected. One has to wonder why he is so dedicated in supporting the Islamist cause?

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News Item7/16/13 1:05 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
US -- perhaps you might go listen to trunews, last night's topic and think that over. I read last year that we were going to fund rebels to go into Syria. what is there not to understand? I have posted debates within congress where Rand Paul says, you know, we are funding those who are killing Christians and the republican congressmen say, yes, we know, but we've got to have a part in these things, to further our agenda? the truth is standing before us, but evangelicals are so sure of their storyline, that they have stopped listening.
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News Item7/16/13 12:50 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Democracy in these countries = setting up of Islamic government with Sharia law. JPW, what is it you think we should have done or should be doing to stop the persecution of Christians by the Islamic people of the countries in which they are persecuted?
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News Item7/16/13 11:43 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
egypt has had outsiders funding these things, the missionaries are watching their people taken out to the streets... the west has a way of writing themselves out of everything they are involved in and sitting back and judging..... honestly, do you all think God is going to sit back, watch the death of his saints in all these places and let us off the hook? judgment will come on the church first....for we are a testimony against ourselves.
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News Item7/16/13 11:01 AM
Derps  Find all comments by Derps
"Democracy" is a western characteristic and will not fit into middle eastern countries.
Egypt is in a social and political mess today and by the looks of it they will not sort this one out. The two sides are fairly evenly matched in voter size and compromise doesn't seem to be an option. Something has to give to bring some kind of stability to the country or they need an iron fist leader to govern as before. Things are playing out just like Iraq with no leadership in sight.

It seems like there are to many factions in Islam to settle things down in these countries.

Quote;
"When has an Islamist government, however democratically elected, ever ceded power to non-Islamists through a functional political process? Is democracy about periodically displacing absolute power by force or about laying the foundations for its peaceful rotation, including mechanisms not only for transparency in governance but also for the protection of women and religious minorities?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/opinion/global/egypt-shows-how-political-islam-is-at-odds-with-democracy.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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