High energy snacks and drinks link to bowel cancer
Lead author Evropi Theodoratou, of Edinburgh Universityâs School of Molecular Genetics and Population Health Science, said: âSome of the risk factors were novel, including the intake of âhigh-energy snack foodsâ and the consumption of the sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs). To our knowledge this is the first study to report an association between these factors and colorectal [bowel] cancer. These particular snacks and drinks have not been identified as risk factors for colorectal cancer before.â
She added: âWe found that the odds of having colorectal cancer were 18 per cent higher if a diet was high in high energy snacks and sugar sweetened beverages. It is an interesting concept, because these foods are becoming more popular in western diets.â
The link remained significant when other factors such as an individualâs body mass index (a measure of weight in comparison to height) and physical...
Hmm, couldn't really find one on food poisoning, natural food poisoning, since the BBC had a very interesting article on food poisoning, [URL=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25154046]]]Why are we more scared of raw egg than reheated rice?[/URL].
I seem to see a lot of interesting commentary on threads, which has little to do with the original article, But anyway, I will point out, [URL=http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago1.html]]]The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy[/URL], and perhaps even more to the point on the topic that was being worked on before this message, [URL=http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago2.html]]]Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics[/URL] Not that I think anyone was denying the infallibility of Scripture, but on how to interpret them? Anyway, my small contribution to that.
Curwel wrote: John. Yesterday you relegated parts of the Bible to quote, "nonsensical"
BTW Which other parts of Scripture do you disqualify as being "nonsensical"?
If you had read the Bible, you would know that even lies are told in scripture, and you have to be careful when reading not to take everything as God's words. For example:
Genesis 3:4-5 KJV 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
This statement from the devil is a nonsense! A downright lie! And YOU want me to take it on board as TRUTH???!!!
Makes me wonder where on earth you are coming from.
Out of the abyss perhaps?
Now let us get back to Job 7:1, of which I said that Job was unjustified in saying the things he did. He was speaking nonsense from a sickbed, his doctrine was all awry, his friends told him some truths, some half-truths, and some outright lies. No wonder he was puzzled. No wonder he came out with some stupid things.
Now I said to look for any commentary that disagreed with me. Did you find ONE?
If little Tommy develops a wart on his finger, what do we do? Tell him? "Ah, this is from the Lord in his providence and grace. Let us praise God for this affliction and see in it his sovereign power."
'Ere, hang on a minute. That one affliction if untreated will spread, not only to the rest of his little hand, but to the hands of his little friends. One could become one thousand, a school epidemic. and the cause would be Fatalism propounded by Hyper Calvinists.
However, there is good news for Tommy and all his friends. That one little "affliction" can be treated very quickly, and it will disappear in a very short time. And the wart epidemic can be averted. Even the ungodly know this to be a fact. But the church, God's people who ought to be wiser and more understanding, seem to think that the wart was "from the Lord"!
As if the Lord is into dishing out warts to terrorise little boys for no good reason except to demonstrate how big and powerful he is.
Now if you translate that episode into the eating of modern "foods", which have little or no nutritional value, you will begin to grasp where I am at.
Towler wrote: This is a fallen world full of sinners. Do you expect them never to live up to that reality and character? ---
Of course not. But I'm not one complaining about what the Anglicans do, while simultaneously saying things like God "orchestrates and determines everything that is going on in your life, in my life, in America, and throughout the world."
What part of "orchestrate" and "everything" is complicated?
Orchestrate, per the Macmillan Dictionary: "to plan and organize a complicated event or course of action so that it achieves the result you want"
Per the Collins English Dictionary: "British English: orchestrate, If you say that someone orchestrates an event or situation, you mean that they carefully organize it in a way that will produce the result that they want."
If God determines everything that happens, what is the basis for complaint when it does?
Mike wrote: no problem with what the Anglicans are doing
This is a fallen world full of sinners. Do you expect them never to live up to that reality and character?
"A Sense in Which God âAuthorsâ Evil
One might object to this model that it makes God the âauthorâ of evil. But that objection, I think, confuses two senses of âauthor.â As we have seen, the phrase âauthor of evilâ connotes not only causality of evil, but also blame for it. To âauthorâ evil is to do it. But in saying that God is related to the world as an author to a story, we actually provide a way of seeing that God is not to be blamed for the sin of his creatures.
This is, of course, not the only biblical response to the problem of evil. Sometimes God does not respond by silencing us, as above, but by showing us in some measure what evil contributes to his plan, what I have called the âgreater good defense.â The greater good defense refers particularly to Godâs Lordship attribute of control, that he is sovereign over evil and uses it for good. The Rom. 9 response refers particularly to Godâs Lordship attribute of authority." (John Frame. Problems of Evil) [URL=http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-author-story-model]]]Author-Story Model[/URL]
"â˘God can do all things and accomplish all things. Nothing is too difficult for Him, and He orchestrates and determines everything that is going to happen in your life, in my life, in America, and throughout the world. Whatever He wants to do in the universe, He does, for nothing is impossible with Him"
Then there should be no problem with what the Anglicans are doing, should there?
John UK wrote: Seems to me that with one side your mouth you talk about life and death being in God's hands, and out the other you talk about life and death being in the hands of the doctor. Tell me, O wise one, whatever shall I do?
Cynicism or Mockery John?
I pray you will find the God you can trust completely and in His Sovereignty.
Curwel wrote: "Hyper"? "Hyper"?? We are talking about God's Sovereignty. Where are you going???? Life and death in the hands of a Sovereign God!!!
Seems to me that with one side your mouth you talk about life and death being in God's hands, and out the other you talk about life and death being in the hands of the doctor.
Tell me, O wise one, whatever shall I do?
My doctor tells me I am very high risk for death, or a stroke and paralysis, because of high blood pressure and two medium-size aneurysms in the head. What will I? Believe you in saying that the date of my death is set, and I may not prevent it? Therefore I can manage quite nicely without medication because it will have no effect? Or listen to my sovereignly-inspired God-doctor and obey his instructions?
You see, doctrine is all very nice and fruity, but you have to apply it in the real world, or it is not doctrine at all but an intellectual exercise only, which does nobody any good.
Of course, you won't answer my question, lest you cause my early demise or see me into a wheelchair, and come yourself under God's wrath for bad advice, and he puts you under the same dilemma.
John UK wrote: However, if you understand it in terms of the hyperman revolution ....
We are talking about God's Sovereignty. Where are you going???? Life and death in the hands of a Sovereign God!!!
C.H.Spurgeon, "Christ with the Keys of Death and Hell" ""I have the keys of hell and of death." Rev. 1:18. All the issues of death are at Christ's disposal. No man can die unless Jesus opens the mystic door of death. It is our consolation that our death is entirely in his hands. In the midst of fever and pestilence, we shall never die until he wills it.
In the times of the greatest healthiness, when all the air is balmy, we shall not live a second longer than Jesus has purposed; the place, the circumstance, the exact second of our departure, have all been appointed by him, and settled long ago in love and wisdom.
A thousand angels could not hurl us to the grave, nor could a host of cherubim confine us there one moment after Jesus says, "Arise."" CHS
[URL=http://www.spurgeongems.org/vols13-15/chs894.pdf]]]Christ with the keys of Death and Hell. CHS[/URL]
Curwel wrote: You sure you have a "sovereign" God, John?
It is a simple fact that I would have a hard time of it defining what is meant by the words "sovereign God".
However, if you understand it in terms of the hyperman revolution, then I reckon you have it off skew and unbiblical. The hyper-Calvinistic approach is never to command any sinner to repent and believe the gospel, because they are incapable of repenting and believing the gospel; the HC is convinced that God will save all of his elect without any assistance from his people, therefore witnessing is not required, living a good life is not required, honesty and loyalty and trustworthiness is not required, church attendance is not required, smoke, drink, dance, it makes no difference, go clubbing, wear makeup, it all makes no difference to God's sovereign works in the salvation of men; besides which, if a man does these things, it was sovereignly inspired and enforced by the sovereign God anyway; men have no choice, Christians are not set free from sin, the new nature is a fable; I wake up a robot, I work a robot, I go to sleep a robot, I'm a robot or a puppet, with no feelings, no decisions to make, just go with the flow and let God do it all. Is that it?
John UK wrote: a. presumption does exist ... b. So God sovereignly supplies me with a robotic ungodly doctor ...
You sure you have a "sovereign" God, John?
"â˘God created all things and holds all things together, both in heaven and on earth, both visible and invisible (Colossians 1:16). â˘God knows all things past, present, and future. There is no limit to His knowledge, for God knows everything completely before it even happens (Romans 11:33). â˘God can do all things and accomplish all things. Nothing is too difficult for Him, and He orchestrates and determines everything that is going to happen in your life, in my life, in America, and throughout the world. Whatever He wants to do in the universe, He does, for nothing is impossible with Him (Jeremiah 32:17). â˘God is in control of all things and rules over all things. He has power and authority over nature, earthly kings, history, angels, and demons. Even Satan himself has to ask Godâs permission before he can act (Psalm 103:19). â˘Thatâs what being sovereign means. (C.Ingram)
[URL=http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Sovereignty/sov_01.htm]]]Sovereignty of God 1Chron 29:11[/URL]
Rennie N wrote: a. Yes without a shadow of a doubt. Because the alternative chance/fate does not exist in God's creation. b. For "unhealthy" - *see* sin. As for going to a doctor ~ knowledge and medicine has been provided as part of providence in God's creation. Praise the Lord for His help in affliction (which He provides to test us) and relief from suffering. c. God provides this advice in Scripture. Go thou and do likewise, John.
a. But presumption does exist and is rampant. b. So God sovereignly supplies me with a robotic ungodly doctor, who gives me my pills to prolong life (eh?), and who gives me a diet regime that I must follow or I will get even sicker (eh?). Yes, I think I see that. c. Eh?
Luke 12:19-20 KJV 19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. 20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
John UK wrote: a. Ah, now you claim that life itself is in a sovereign God's hands
b. But one thing I do know, it is not very nice to be unhealthy. And if you claim that nothing can be done about God's sovereign purposes, why keep going to the doctor?
c. Do you want me to eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow I die?
a. Yes without a shadow of a doubt. Because the alternative chance/fate does not exist in God's creation.
b. For "unhealthy" - *see* sin. As for going to a doctor ~ knowledge and medicine has been provided as part of providence in God's creation. Praise the Lord for His help in affliction (which He provides to test us) and relief from suffering.
c. God provides this advice in Scripture. Go thou and do likewise, John.
Here is how; "Proverbs 10:27 The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened."
Oh I forgot; "eat drink merry ... and die..." Remember the "die" part - the return of the soul to its creator is in God's hands.
Rennie N wrote: If life itself is not in a Sovereign God's hands then 'chance' or worse still 'fate' must be in control. Where do you draw the line between God and fate John?
Ah, now you claim that life itself is in a sovereign God's hands. This is what the JW's claim when they refuse a blood transfusion after a car accident.
Try going a couple of months without food and water and see how long you last.
The misuse of the doctrine of God's overall sovereignty leads to illnesses, pain, unnecessary suffering, lethargy, hospital visits and operations.
Those 22 little Indian children who just died at school as a result of food poisoning, reckoned to be organo-phosphate or some other insecticide? Was that God's judgment on them? Did God kill them, or was it because of the way food is "manufactured" today?
Sure, it's a big subject, and I don't have all the answers. But one thing I do know, it is not very nice to be unhealthy. And if you claim that nothing can be done about God's sovereign purposes, why keep going to the doctor? Why did the woman with the issue of blood scramble to the feet of Jesus and touch the hem of his cloak?
Do you want me to eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow I die?
John UK wrote: As for our Lord's sovereignty, I reckon he actively wills the posts based upon living healthily and has predestinated them; and the posts which advocate living presumptuously, eating and drinking anything and everything with a total disregard for the effects, are allowed by the sovereign God in his permissive and passive will.
God's advice ~ Eccl 9:7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
Death is a sin! - Don't do it.
If life itself is not in a Sovereign God's hands then 'chance' or worse still 'fate' must be in control. Where do you draw the line between God and fate John?
Rufus_1611 wrote: "In God's sovereignty, he wrote us a book telling us how to live and he says that if you behave wickedly or foolishly you may die before your time."
How then should we live? - "righteous and wise??" Yet; V16 says - Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Plus, if all this stuff is killing us, why is the average life span going up? Careful, you don't want to say that the medication that is doing us in is causing us to live longer.
According to Chris Frost, it can only be the sovereign God who has chosen to increase the life expectancy today, rather than either medication, life support machines, or healthier diets.
For myself, I say that length of life can be attributed to numerous factors, including the aforementioned, plus abortion laws, death penalty v life imprisonment, and plenty others ad infinitum.
As for our Lord's sovereignty, I reckon he actively wills the posts based upon living healthily and has predestinated them; and the posts which advocate living presumptuously, eating and drinking anything and everything with a total disregard for the effects, are allowed by the sovereign God in his permissive and passive will.
In the UK, the NHS is operating close to the edge of bankruptcy. Hospital car parks are full up every day, the doctor surgeries are full up every day, and funeral parlours are doing well.
"Theodoratou emphasized that although her team had found a link between foods with a high energy density and sugary drinks, there was NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE to prove that they caused bowel cancer.
âThe best ways to reduce the risk of bowel cancer are to cut down on alcohol, get active, eat a balanced diet and aim to keep a healthy weight."
Since none of our "health" food advocates mentioned that, I thought I would bring it up. Plus, if all this stuff is killing us, why is the average life span going up? Careful, you don't want to say that the medication that is doing us in is causing us to live longer.