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FRONT PAGE  |  11/19/2017
TUESDAY, APR 23, 2013  |  26 comments
Army Removes Bible Reference from Scopes

The U.S. Army is directing troops to remove a Bible inscription that a vendor etched into the serial numbers of weapon scopes, Fox News has learned.

Soldiers at Fort Wainwright in Alaska told Fox News they received a directive to turn in their scopes so the Bible references could be removed.

The scopes were made by Trijicom and referenced New Testament passages in John 8:12 and Second Corinthians 4:6. The verses appeared at the end of the scope serial numbers – “JN8:12” and “2COR4:6.”

“The biblical verse (JN8:12) must be removed utilizing a Dremel type tool and then painted black,” read instructions on how to remedy the matter. ...


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News Item4/28/13 12:18 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
james19 wrote:
So what we don't want the terrorists getting shot to be offended?
To the pc left, being offended is worse than being shot.
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News Item4/28/13 11:10 AM
james19 | texas  Contact via emailFind all comments by james19
So what we don't want the terrorists getting shot to be offended?
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News Item4/26/13 11:21 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
causing injustice pretty much guarantees that it will come here. we will reap what we sow. better to sow justice, such as the generation of WWII who had morals.

and in actuality, from what I am seeing, it has already come here.

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News Item4/26/13 11:19 AM
John Beechy  Find all comments by John Beechy
Maybe your pastor can help you with your problem. He (or she) is supposedly "called by God,", no? If he (or she) cannot help you, then he (or she) must not be called by God. In the meantime, I found the following that may be helpful:

Janus Christian Warmongers

State Idolatry

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
I work for a heathen company, located in a heathen city, residing in a heathen state. I drive a car built by a heathen company. The list could go on and on. "I pray not that you should take them out of the world, but that you should keep them from the evil" (John 17:15) We shop at stores run by heathen people. Sorry but your point is not making sense. Maybe you could help my poor understanding.
Bt the way, I do not suggest using this pathetic excuse when you stand before the Lord trying to justify your idolatry and murders.
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News Item4/26/13 10:01 AM
Hot Rod Nate | Indiana  Find all comments by Hot Rod Nate
Sorry Jim, I was referring to the post right before yours.
US-
I agree that we don't want the war to be on our soil but I also agree that we need to be more careful about who we go to war with and why. also, a very good post on heathen things. It makes perfect sense!
Can there not be christians employed in heathen companies, jobs etc,?
I doubt John Beechy is employed as a minister or some other christian occupation...are you Mr.Beechy??
If we all left the heathen companies and only shopped at christian places how could we evangelize?
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News Item4/25/13 2:39 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Hot Rod, I said in my message, "The soldiers who fought in the banana wars most assuredly do deserve as much honor as those that supported 1st Amendment principles in other countries--the only acceptable type of war to me." from that quotation of my original message there is nothing about hating our troops! Now, having a thorough dislike for Banana War Bush, is quite proper George Bush Kisses a (Saudi) Prince. Besides that he holds the hand that feeds him.
L.R. Mayer wrote:
.... It would be the first of many moves to come during the Bush administration that would position oil and gas companies well ahead of other energy interests with billions of dollars in subsidies and tax cuts—payback for an industry with strong ties to the administration and plenty of money to contribute to congressional and presidential campaigns.
excerpt from, Big Oil, Big Influence. I have not a word to say against our troops, I have plenty of words to say against an ex-Prez who spilled their blood so freely, for corporate gain.
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News Item4/25/13 1:40 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Neil, to be honest, too much there to respond to in the characters available.
You don't have to include my *entire* post in your reply! It's already available below.

A little more background:Petrodollar Warfare
BTW I only discovered this article after my previous post. Now we may never know the unstated motives of our Presidents, but I do know this: The US didn't need a worldwide military presence in its 1st century of existence, so why now? We may not *think* we're Yankee Imperialists, but we're sure acting like one, & it plays perfectly into Marxist & Islamist propaganda. If we *wanted* more people to be recruited by these ideologies, I couldn't think of a better way to do it.

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News Item4/25/13 12:55 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Neil wrote:
This is not to excuse Al Qaeda et al., but consider their declared reason for anti-American terrorism: our Mideast presence, particularly our Saudi bases. Now why are we protecting a country just as fanatical about Islam as Iran, & just as hostile to our value system (secular or Christian)? Why the alliance with Saudi? Answer: petrodollar$; we don't want the Saudi regime to fall into the hands of a hostile party (in the past, Soviets, Saddam Hussein, & now, terrorists) who'll repudiate the '73 Nixonian quid-pro-quo of security in exchange for requiring payment in the world's Reserve Currency. If this collapses (& it may anyway thanks to Iran & China), our spendthrift gov't & society will go the Greek way in a hurry. Americans, like Greek Socialists, are addicted to other people's money.
So this is what Americans have been fighting & dying for: the money-printing Progressive Welfare State, supported for almost a century going now by both parties & the RCC. This must be what patriots consider to be freedom.
Neil, to be honest, too much there to respond to in the characters available. While I see some of your points but will just have to say we don't see eye to eye on everything, but thanks for the response.
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News Item4/25/13 12:31 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
In all due respect, if you don't think we should be vigilant with a war of terrorism, maybe you need to get your head out of the proverbial sand.
This is not to excuse Al Qaeda et al., but consider their declared reason for anti-American terrorism: our Mideast presence, particularly our Saudi bases. Now why are we protecting a country just as fanatical about Islam as Iran, & just as hostile to our value system (secular or Christian)? Why the alliance with Saudi? Answer: petrodollar$; we don't want the Saudi regime to fall into the hands of a hostile party (in the past, Soviets, Saddam Hussein, & now, terrorists) who'll repudiate the '73 Nixonian quid-pro-quo of security in exchange for requiring payment in the world's Reserve Currency. If this collapses (& it may anyway thanks to Iran & China), our spendthrift gov't & society will go the Greek way in a hurry. Americans, like Greek Socialists, are addicted to other people's money.

So this is what Americans have been fighting & dying for: the money-printing Progressive Welfare State, supported for almost a century going now by both parties & the RCC. This must be what patriots consider to be freedom.

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News Item4/25/13 11:50 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
John Beechy wrote:
"Christians" in the heathen military is like the Christian lawyer, the Christian politician, the Christian Mason, the Christian Roman Catholic, the Christian Mormon, the Christian porn star etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron
I work for a heathen company, located in a heathen city, residing in a heathen state. I drive a car built by a heathen company. The list could go on and on. "I pray not that you should take them out of the world, but that you should keep them from the evil" (John 17:15) We shop at stores run by heathen people. Sorry but your point is not making sense. Maybe you could help my poor understanding.
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News Item4/25/13 11:23 AM
John Beechy  Find all comments by John Beechy
"Christians" in the heathen military is like the Christian lawyer, the Christian politician, the Christian Mason, the Christian Roman Catholic, the Christian Mormon, the Christian porn star etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron

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News Item4/25/13 10:42 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
It is the government's policies initiated by our current commander in-chief that are forced upon our armed forces that are bad. Our army is one of the best in world. In all due respect, if you don't think we should be vigilant with a war of terrorism, maybe you need to get your head out of the proverbial sand.The "bipartisan" (it was partisan to the left) 9/11 commission even said they were at war with us and we were not at war with them. In case you forgot, we lost over 3,000 citizens in one day to this non-existent enemy and the people at the Boston marathon certainly don't agree with your assessment. Bring all our troops home and the battlefield will be in your backyard.
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News Item4/25/13 2:16 AM
Hook L. Sinker  Find all comments by Hook L. Sinker

Hot Rod Nate wrote:
I agree with you Rufus.
My main point is that there are Christians in the military and we need to be appreciative of their willingness to put their lives in harms way, no matter how crooked the military as a whole has become. the christians there i assume are not as in the know as we are about the armys ineffectiveness. I dont support the army itself or the crooked way its run, but i do support the troops that are in the middle of riflefire trying toserve our country. The troops who aresadly blind to the militarys illusion. These are the people i support.
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News Item4/24/13 6:54 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
sadly, if they were truly serving their country they wouldn't be guarding poppy fields and "liberating" which leads to persecution and diaspora... many find this out too late... they deserve better and so do we.

as for the article, there just may be safety issues involved -- as they are painting them black, but hey, just a guess.

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News Item4/24/13 5:10 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Hot Rod Nate wrote:
but i do support the troops that are in the middle of riflefire trying toserve our country.
I never said we should hate our troops. I do say we should stop thoughtlessly repeating historical myths. Just because other countries go bad doesn't mean Americans need to "liberate" them.

It is a lie that needs to be challenged, or Americans will continue to die for foreign-policy abstractions like Containment or the War on Terror.

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News Item4/24/13 3:11 PM
Hot Rod Nate | Indiana  Find all comments by Hot Rod Nate
I agree with you Rufus.
My main point is that there are Christians in the military and we need to be appreciative of their willingness to put their lives in harms way, no matter how crooked the military as a whole has become. the christians there i assume are not as in the know as we are about the armys ineffectiveness. I dont support the army itself or the crooked way its run, but i do support the troops that are in the middle of riflefire trying toserve our country. The troops who aresadly blind to the militarys illusion. These are the people i support.
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News Item4/24/13 2:21 PM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameContact via emailFind all comments by Rufus
Hot Rod Nate wrote:
That's true. But its no good reason to hate on our troops. They didn't decide that the feds did. The troops are in the middle of it all. They follow orders.
We need to support our troops, not spit on em as they come home as happened during Vietnam.
They take an oath to primarily defend the Constitution of the United States and secondarily follow orders. Currently, they are primarily following the second and ignoring the primary.

Further, they are not currently in the business of defending our freedoms. This is something you have heard from Faux News or other such propaganda outlets.

Finally, recognize that a military that scratches off Bible references, burns Bibles, claims to be a global force for peace (rather than an entity responsible only for the protection of a single country) and openly condones and allows for sodomy contrary to its own military code of conduct, is not a military you want to be on the side of when God sees fit to judge it.

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News Item4/24/13 2:06 PM
Hot Rod Nate | Indiana  Find all comments by Hot Rod Nate
That's true. But its no good reason to hate on our troops. They didn't decide that the feds did. The troops are in the middle of it all. They follow orders.
We need to support our troops, not spit on em as they come home as happened during Vietnam.
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News Item4/24/13 2:03 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Neil, our soldiers gave their lives for South Korea's freedom and Grenada freedom -- the other countries don't know what Freedom means before or after our involvement in their wars. Our government has to be more selective on what Banana_Wars they send our troops, out too. The soldiers who fought in the banana wars most assuredly do deserve as much honor as those that supported 1st Amendment principles in other countries--the only acceptable type of war to me.

Surprising this company didn't put on the Bible verse:

Matthew 26
52 Then Jesus *said to him, “Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.---NASB

Tossing out verses of the Bible may not be appropriate because the verse isn't observed in its proper setting. Principles of Bible Interpretation

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News Item4/23/13 11:14 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Hot Rod Nate wrote:
I'm thankful for all those who put their lives in danger so that I can enjoy what little freedom we have left.
In that past 60 years, our soldiers have given their lives for Korea's freedom, Vietnam's freedom, Cambodia's freedom, Grenada's freedom, Kuwait's freedom, Iraq's freedom, & Afghanistan's freedom.
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