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WEDNESDAY, APR 17, 2013  |  20 comments
Hobby Lobby Raises Full-Time Minimum Wage to $14

Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., a privately held retail chain with more than 500 arts and crafts stores in 45 states, announced Monday a minimum-wage increase to $14 per hour for full-time hourly employees of Hobby Lobby and its affiliate, Hemispheres, effective immediately. The company also announced a minimum wage increase for all part-time employees to $9.50 per hour.

This is the fifth year in a row that the company has raised wages for full-time hourly employees, who earned a minimum of $13 per hour in 2012. It's the fourth year in a row for the company to increase the minimum wage for its part-time hourly employees, up from a minimum of $9 in 2012. ...


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News Item4/20/13 1:16 PM
Tee Hee  Find all comments by Tee Hee
Mike wrote:
Respectfully, you don't know what you're talking about. Don't participate in the economic nonsensible part of business economics. Participate only in the sensible part of business economics.
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News Item4/20/13 1:01 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Yurich USA wrote:
A business owner should only be concerned about being cheap and saving money. If every business just used temp workers then there would be dependable temp workers because there would just be temp positions available, no permanent positions available.
Respectfully, you don't know what you're talking about. Don't participate in the economic nonsensible part of business economics. Participate only in the sensible part of business economics.
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News Item4/20/13 12:25 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
John Yurich USA wrote:
A business owner should only be concerned about being cheap and saving money. If every business just used temp workers then there would be dependable temp workers because there would just be temp positions available, no permanent positions available.
Being "cheap" does not necessarily equal saving money. A business is out there to maximize their profits, if they thought that hiring temps for all positions would do that, then they would. Obviously, the way the free market (and I know our market is not totally free)works is that you put out the best goods and services for the most competitive price and people will come pay for it. Hobby Lobby is successfully proving that good employees are worth their cost. You may not agree with their business model, but it seems to be helping their bottom line. You cannot keep good help if you don't pay them money, they will find work some place that pays them their worth. How many times have you gone to a restaurant and gotten lousy service or food and said you won't return. Cheap cost them money not saved them.
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News Item4/20/13 12:15 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
SteveR wrote:
Temps are too often very poor & undependable workers. When you do find a good employee from the temp agency, hire them as fast as you can because someone else will leaving you with the dregs
A business owner should only be concerned about being cheap and saving money. If every business just used temp workers then there would be dependable temp workers because there would just be temp positions available, no permanent positions available.
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News Item4/20/13 11:40 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
John Yurich USA wrote:
Well then how come every business doesn't want to save money by just using temp workers?
Temps are too often very poor & undependable workers. When you do find a good employee from the temp agency, hire them as fast as you can because someone else will leaving you with the dregs
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News Item4/20/13 11:27 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
You are right in that, financially, using a temp agency works out in the employers favor, for sure. They pay a flat fee, avoiding health/dental insurance, workman's comp, any 401k contributions, etc., etc.
Well then how come every business doesn't want to save money by just using temp workers?
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News Item4/20/13 10:10 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
You are right in that, financially, using a temp agency works out in the employers favor, for sure. They pay a flat fee, avoiding health/dental insurance, workman's comp, any 401k contributions, etc., etc.
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News Item4/20/13 10:01 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
Temp agencies have their pros and cons and most prospects will be actively seeking permanent positions elsewhere, or even, higher paid positions that become available with the agency while on temporary work assignments.
If every business would just use temp workers then no worker would seek permanent positions as there would not be any permanent positions available anywhere. It costs a business less to use temp workers then to have workers on their payroll. Using temp workers would only involve paying the temp agency whatever they charge for the use of their temp workers. Which would be less then paying wages and benefits to employees on the business payroll.
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News Item4/19/13 10:59 PM
Crissy | USA Texas  Find all comments by Crissy
What a wonderful thing they do!
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News Item4/18/13 3:09 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Not to mention that temporary employees have no 401k or other retirement plan they pay Into.
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News Item4/18/13 3:06 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Temp agencies have their pros and cons and most prospects will be actively seeking permanent positions elsewhere, or even, higher paid positions that become available with the agency while on temporary work assignments. The employers know this and it's the reason they won't spend lengthy time training temp workers because most of them will be actively searching for permanent work elsewhere while at their disposal. That's why they look to hire experienced people who can jump right in to any available position.
Temp agencies, because of what they provide, are very expensive; paying the temps a fraction. Temp agencies also contribute to job erosion in the modern market because of what employers really use them for.
Temps can't be promoted, and unless they want to be employed permanently by a specific company, which usually isn't the case, their ambition is often grossly lacking.
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News Item4/18/13 2:00 PM
TheOrignalBob | USA  Find all comments by TheOrignalBob
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
....Remember companies DON'T exist to create jobs, they are there to make a profit..."

Making a profit must come 2nd to honoring God. If Hobby Lobby feels that their employees need or deserve a higher level of income then hats off to them! Sounds like to me Hobby Lobby puts people above Greed!

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News Item4/18/13 1:36 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Hobby Lobby does not use a temp agency to hire its workers, that I know of. If they go to using all temps, would that not require layoffs of all their current workers?
If Hobby Lobby laid off their current workers then the current workers could go to work for temp agencies then they would go back to work at Hobby Lobby as temp workers who could remain at Hobby Lobby for years.
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News Item4/18/13 12:59 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Hobby Lobby and others like them could do both. Give their proven valuable workers a higher minimum wage (with normal raises every year) while filtering all new employees through the temp process to see which ones are worth keeping or not.

Incidentally a similar phenomena would likely occur even if there were NO minimum wage. All new employees would be paid very little until they proved themselves. Those discontent with the low pay would leave for greener pastures while the ones given raises would stay. Everyone wins, until somebody gets upset and sues for discrimination, which is probably yet another reason the minimum wage concept in this country has been so enduring.

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News Item4/18/13 12:52 PM
Unprofitable Servant  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
persective lens wrote:
Perhaps JY is arguing that Hobby Lobby could mitigate its inevitable losses. If HL owners hired indirect employees, they wouldn't risk losing their business and laying off thousands (like Hostess did last year) simply because of their strongly held religious beliefs.
Maybe JY is more concerned for the long-term viability of thousands of families and not just a short-term shot in the arm of offering an employee $14 per hour plus healthcare benefits today.
Forgive me for not understanding your perspective. Right now Hobby Lobby does not use a temp agency to hire its workers, that I know of. If they go to using all temps, would that not require layoffs of all their current workers?
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News Item4/18/13 12:03 PM
persective lens  Find all comments by persective lens
Perhaps JY is arguing that Hobby Lobby could mitigate its inevitable bankruptcy. If HL owners hired indirect employees, they wouldn't risk losing their business and laying off thousands (like Hostess did last year) simply because of their strongly held religious beliefs.

Maybe JY is more concerned for the long-term viability of thousands of families and not just a short-term shot in the arm of offering an employee $14 per hour plus healthcare benefits today.

Barry from KY wrote:
Are you a temporary employee John Y or do you own a temp agency. You say this every time there is a story relating to employment.
I agree Unprofitable Servant, hats off to Hobby Lobby. My wife shops there quite often!
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News Item4/18/13 10:20 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY
John Yurich USA wrote:
Why would Hobby Lobby want to have employees on their payroll when they can use temp workers from temp agencies and only pay however much the temp agencies charge to use their temp workers? Any business that has employees on their payroll instead of using temp workers is nuts.
Are you a temporary employee John Y or do you own a temp agency. You say this every time there is a story relating to employment.
I agree Unprofitable Servant, hats off to Hobby Lobby. My wife shops there quite often!
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News Item4/18/13 9:40 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
John Yurich USA wrote:
Why would Hobby Lobby want to have employees on their payroll when they can use temp workers from temp agencies and only pay however much the temp agencies charge to use their temp workers? Any business that has employees on their payroll instead of using temp workers is nuts.
maybe they value their employees and figure if they are not just there to punch a clock (i.e. a temp worker) they will take more pride in their company and their work. Hobby Lobby has no guarantee anyone will walk through its doors to buy their product. They must figure if they offer top notch products and service at reasonable prices they will create a market. They obviously feel a temp worker will not help them reach that objective. Remember companies DON'T exist to create jobs, they are there to make a profit. Workers are agents to facilitate that goal. Hats off to Hobby Lobby IMHO.
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News Item4/18/13 9:16 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Why would Hobby Lobby want to have employees on their payroll when they can use temp workers from temp agencies and only pay however much the temp agencies charge to use their temp workers? Any business that has employees on their payroll instead of using temp workers is nuts.
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News Item4/17/13 10:55 PM
Kat | USA  Contact via emailFind all comments by Kat
Awesome...may God continue to bless your faithfullness!
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