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SATURDAY, MAR 30, 2013  |  19 comments
Rush defends 'Bible thumpers' from Bill O'Reilly

This week’s Supreme Court “gay marriage” case is pitting pundit against pundit. After Bill O’Reilly referred to same-sex marriage opponents as “Bible thumpers,” Rush Limbaugh went on the defensive.

Comparing O’Reilly to Ted Baxter, the vain, unpopular anchorman on the old “Mary Tyler Moore Show,” Limbaugh accused the Fox News host of “marginalizing” a good portion of his own audience.

Then Rush blasted another TV commentator, this time MSNBC’s Toure, who Rush said had “smeared” Dr. Ben Carson. ...


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News Item5/3/17 2:51 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No, Dr. Rugh didn't cover news commentators, I really should have put up something on the order, Left & Right Voices in Talk Radio & TV, this author can tolerate David Limbaugh better than Rush, but on the whole shows good taste and disliking a lot ot them.

I saw an interesting commentary about B. Reilly and the merry men at Fox, written by the managing editor of Christianity Today.

Katelyn Beaty wrote:
This characterization fits Fox News, which recently fired its host Bill O’Reilly after sexual harassment allegations against him (and pressure from advertisers) mounted.

But it is also applies to the white evangelical Christian community. This group is not a monolith, but its social hierarchy often functions like the military, a university or private business. It’s not a coincidence that conservative evangelical leaders tend to resist taking harassment and assault claims seriously.

--The Mistake Christians Made in Defending Bill O’Reilly.

Since I'm trying to "gentle" with Trump you might want to pass up her main article, which isn't. She did bring up something interesting, Cheap Grace.

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News Item3/31/13 8:38 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
UPS, then you should listen to the sermon, ...
I listened to the message from your pastor, brother Jim. He said don't listen to Jim's politics or what he says about the KJV. It was unbelievable.
Actually, his sermon did not address anything about my post or whether or not you could be partial to one news commentator or the other. However, it was a good message thanks!
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News Item3/31/13 3:21 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
UPS, then you should listen to the sermon,
Showing Partiality is Sin
and would get a good explanation for:

James 2
2 For if a man comes into your assembly with a gold ring and dressed in fine clothes, and there also comes in a poor man in dirty clothes,
3 and you pay special attention to the one who is wearing the fine clothes, and say, "You sit here in a good place," and you say to the poor man, "You stand over there, or sit down by my footstool,"
4 have you not made distinctions among yourselves, and become judges with evil motives?
5 Listen, my beloved brethren: did not God choose the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?
6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Is it not the rich who oppress you and personally drag you into court?---NASB

One can be happy I'm not partial to either O'Reilley or Limbaugh, I consciously avoid listening to either of these people.

Anyway, UPS, you also might like Ephesians 6:9, and the JFB commentary for it?

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News Item3/30/13 8:04 PM
Hannity  Find all comments by Hannity
Mike wrote:
And I use my very own name, too.
Archangel?
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News Item3/30/13 7:08 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Great point about the apples and oranges comparison, brother Mike.

Brother Jim, in the sense that you used the word partial in your post (have to fess up I have not listened to your Pastor's sermon) I would have to say I am partial to my Lord over all other things. I am partial to the company of my wife over others. I am partial to warmth rather than cold (thus I live around Atlanta rather than Chicago where I spent a majority of my younger years) I am partial to creamy rather than crunchy peanut butter and definitely partial to chocolate over strawberry. I am partial to iced tea over hot and am partial to pizza over tofu. (please don't tell jpw) Have to agree with you brother, would be partial to O'Reilly's Auto Parts over Bill. But as those Bible verses teach in James I don't believe in showing partiality to those who come into my assembly. (to be honest I would be clueless to the fact that someone was wearing designer clothes) We should be impartial to people's race, gender, age,wealth, and intelligence (among other things). I trust that I am learning contentment in the blessings God gives because not only does life not consist in the abundance of things we possess but, Hallelujah, He has said He will never leave us or forsake us unworthy ones.

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News Item3/30/13 6:34 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Hannity wrote:
Mike has personality and he loves to comment.
And I use my very own name, too.
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News Item3/30/13 5:32 PM
Hannity  Find all comments by Hannity
Mike wrote:
If "personalities" want to supportively comment, must they be credentialed Christians to do so?
Mike has personality and he loves to comment.
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News Item3/30/13 5:05 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Don J wrote:
--- My concern is why do many American Christians seem to cling more to Rush's every word than to The Word?
---
Psalm 119:105 "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." Sure, some commercial talk show hosts are cheerleaders for certain Christian values, but they are not substitutes for real Bible teaching. Why is such zealous devotion given to radio/TV personalities who do not "declare unto you all the counsel of God", instead of to Christ Himself through prayer and diligent study of His Word? Excellent Bible teaching and exposition is readily available from numerous conservative, doctrinally sound theologians and pastors.
---
Apples and oranges, Don. Who listens to Rush for Bible exposition, or as a substitute for real Bible teaching? Is there evidence of this, or is it a feeling? Who reads the Bible to learn the politics of Rome? Nonetheless the politics of Rome was a factor in the life of the Apostles wasn't it? And the politics of the world is a factor in the life of Christians, and increasingly so. If "personalities" want to supportively comment, must they be credentialed Christians to do so? It doesn't make them vicars of Christ, nor do they claim to be.
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News Item3/30/13 4:15 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
It seems that the audience to which Limbaugh is referring is O'Reilly's, as what would it matter that O'Reilly is marginalizing Rush's audience who may not even watch him. You must be referring to an experience you see outside of what is mentioned in this article. That there are Christians who hang more on Limabaugh's words than the Lord's. That would definitely be wrong as the Lord has magnified His Word above His name. I confess, I knew very few if any "dittoheads" as they are called but anyone I know who listens to Rush regularly doesn't exhibit the behavior you rightfully condemn. I catch his morning updates as they play on the station I listen to driving to work. Other than that just when he makes the news here. Now in my limited experience, I have no recollection (memory is far from being my strong suit, just ask my wife) of ever talking about what Rush said during my time at church.
But I throw it out to other contributors, do you find that Christians put too much emphasis on what they hear via conservative commentators like Rush? I admit to being a Rush fan, but have no time to spend listening to him other than what I previously mentioned. Thanks for your clarification, brother, I still say it is good that a national figure supports what we support.
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News Item3/30/13 3:19 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No, we don't need famous personalities defending Biblical truth, and both of these commentators just follow where the source of their money comes from, I'd rather both be Bible readers rather of being thumpers of whatever. I doubt if either of them take the Bible seriously.

We need to stop showing partiality to people you might listen to,
Showing Partiality is Sin
, especially, Limbaugh and O'Reilly. When you see O'Reilly just think of car parts.

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News Item3/30/13 2:37 PM
Don J | NYC  Find all comments by Don J
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
So, let me get this right, a famous personality defends "Bible-thumpers" and instead of being grateful you criticize the listeners (who make no comments in the article and are never said to be a good portion of his audience)...
The article states, "Limbaugh accused the Fox News host of 'marginalizing' a good portion of his own audience."
I meant no hostility. My concern is why do many American Christians seem to cling more to Rush's every word than to The Word? Psalm 119:105 "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." Sure, some commercial talk show hosts are cheerleaders for certain Christian values, but they are not substitutes for real Bible teaching. Why is such zealous devotion given to radio/TV personalities who do not "declare unto you all the counsel of God", instead of to Christ Himself through prayer and diligent study of His Word? Excellent Bible teaching and exposition is readily available from numerous conservative, doctrinally sound theologians and pastors. We are stewards of the time and intellect God has given us. If a secular commentator is very central in a professing Christian's life then something may be wrong, ranging from a misplaced priority for some to possibly idolatry for others
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News Item3/30/13 11:38 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Don J wrote:
Why are "Bible Thumpers" a good portion of his audience in the first place? Instead of idolizing conservative talk show hosts, why not listen to sound exposition of God's Word from the many fine pastors and teachers on SermonAudio instead?
So, let me get this right, a famous personality defends "Bible-thumpers" and instead of being grateful you criticize the listeners (who make no comments in the article and are never said to be a good portion of his audience) who you assume idolize the commentator and don't take time to listen to good sermons here from SermonAudio. You want Mr. Limbaugh to criticize "Bible-thumpers" for not supporting gay marriage instead of defending them? "Rejoice with those who rejoice..." Romans 12:15
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News Item3/30/13 11:38 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
no you don't wrote:
You can't lose your salvation once you're saved, right?
No you don't

But you can certainly be destroyed in the faithfulness and service you might have given to Christ in your ignorance, not to mention come under the direct discipline of God (see the 7 Churches in Revelation if you doubt this).

So, why don't we simply REPENT and by the mercies and grace of God grow huge in our knowledge and experiencial knowledge of God and the obedience of faith, eagerly awaiting our Lord and Savior's return.

I hope you are aware Scripture tells us that the one who is slack in his ways is brother to him who destroys. And in the context of this news article and the question that was asked "Why" I have to consider that includes preachers who fail to educate, warn and lead the congregations entrusted to them.

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News Item3/30/13 11:11 AM
no you don't  Find all comments by no you don't
Michael Hranek wrote:
Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:
You can't lose your salvation once you're saved, right?
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News Item3/30/13 11:04 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Michael Hranek wrote:
Defined
Ahhhh! Don't let those outside of Christ, or those embarrassed of Him, define who you are or what is obedient and faithful to the Son of God on the basis of their personal perferences.
I am about as certain as I can be there will be many in the day of Judgment who will thank God from the depths of their hearts for "Bible Thumpers" like George Whitefield, The Wesleys, D.L. Moody, C.H. Spurgeon and others like Ray Comfort and Paul Washer who have preached The Gospel of Christ open-air and unashamedly so lost men and women might hear the Truth of Christ and be saved.
And likewise in the day of judgment many will despise the kinder gentler tolerant inclusive ecumenical interfaith emegent false teachers who denigrated and despised the Truth of Christ and did their worst to turn people from hearing the Truth, like Rob Bell and the Popes of the RCC too for that matter, so they could with their fingers in their ears believe a lie and be damned forever.
Amen & Amen, brother!

Insipid, dumbed down preaching, begets insipid, dumbed down followers. No wonder so many are fast asleep today, playing Christian lullabies all day long.

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News Item3/30/13 10:08 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
defined wrote:
Who is this proverbial 'bible thumper'?
bible thumper:
Defined
Ahhhh! Don't let those outside of Christ, or those embarrassed of Him, define who you are or what is obedient and faithful to the Son of God on the basis of their personal perferences.

I am about as certain as I can be there will be many in the day of Judgment who will thank God from the depths of their hearts for "Bible Thumpers" like George Whitefield, The Wesleys, D.L. Moody, C.H. Spurgeon and others like Ray Comfort and Paul Washer who have preached The Gospel of Christ open-air and unashamedly so lost men and women might hear the Truth of Christ and be saved.

And likewise in the day of judgment many will despise the kinder gentler tolerant inclusive ecumenical interfaith emegent false teachers who denigrated and despised the Truth of Christ and did their worst to turn people from hearing the Truth, like Rob Bell and the Popes of the RCC too for that matter, so they could with their fingers in their ears believe a lie and be damned forever.

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News Item3/30/13 9:28 AM
defined  Find all comments by defined
Who is this proverbial 'bible thumper'?

bible thumper:
"Originating from typically southern US fundamentalist Christian sects given to evangelizing in a very outgoing, rumbunctious way, often characterized by a religious bigot standing on a street corner, with or without foam around his mouth, shouting about how we should all turn to Christ, whilst vigourously thumping his soft covered bible for emphasis.
Their actions usually do more harm than good to their cause and bring into disrepute and ridicule those more reticent Christians.

"He's a bible thumper, so don't go near him. He thinks everything in the bible should be taken literally; he's a foolish bible thumper."

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News Item3/30/13 9:23 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Don J wrote:
Why are "Bible Thumpers" a good portion of his audience in the first place?
Don J
Why! Is a good question, the way you stated it might be a bit of a loaded question but still the "why" part of if is good for some honest consideration.

IMHO genuine born again BIBLE Believing Christians are largely starving for those in church leadership to speak Biblically on the things going on in the world today, including the religious church world too, and lead in being about what the will of God is concerning them as well.

Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

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News Item3/30/13 8:46 AM
Don J | NYC  Find all comments by Don J
Why are "Bible Thumpers" a good portion of his audience in the first place? Instead of idolizing conservative talk show hosts, why not listen to sound exposition of God's Word from the many fine pastors and teachers on SermonAudio instead?
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