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SUNDAY, JAN 6, 2013  |  17 comments  |  1 commentary
Ex-Pastor Jack Schaap Seeks Minimum Sentence in Teen Sex Case
Jack Schaap, former pastor of First Baptist Church in Hammond, Ind., has requested in a new court filing that he be given the minimum 10-year sentence for his sexual relationship with a teen girl from his church. He blamed the affair on stress and depression.

Schaap, 55, was under great stress, exhausted and depressed at the time of the relationship, says a sentencing memorandum filed in U.S. District Court in Hammond by the megachurch pastor's attorney, Paul Stracci.

"Unfortunately, for a four-week period during the summer of 2012, he acted in a manner contrary to the entire balance of his life by engaging in sexual activity with a young woman with whom he had only recently come to counsel," Stracci wrote in the memorandum, according to The Associated Press. ...


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News Item1/16/16 1:08 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
UPS, later articles confirm your conjecture, that Jack Schaap is no Apostle Paul!

[URL=http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammond/ex-megachurch-pastor-blames-underage-victim-wants-out-of-prison/article_2ae9324b-eacf-546e-9f73-c12147f5726f.html]]]http://tinyurl.com/zp28av7 (Ex-megachurch pastor blames underage victim, wants out of prison)[/URL]

[URL=http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammond/hyles-daughter-apologizes-for-nefarious-actions-of-church/article_bd70eeb5-6544-5ca8-8d94-ead03fb565ed.html]]] Hyles' daughter apologizes for 'nefarious actions' of church[/URL] a good short article on placing pastors on pedestals.

The following article and free ebook are about 1st Baptist of Hammond Ind. by that well-known pastor David Cloud. The article points out of not seeing the problems of 1st Baptist, excellent, and the ebook gives a more detailed look at the 1st Baptists sins.
[URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/ignoring_sin_first_baptist_hammond.html]]]Ignoring the Sin of First Baptist of Hammond[/URL]

[URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/hyles_effect.php]]]The Hyles Effect- A Spreading Blight[/URL]

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News Item7/4/15 10:10 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
The difference here, Jim, is the apostle Paul could have an effective jail ministry because he had not violated the 1st, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th commandments. He had, by the grace of God, a conscience void of offense toward God and man. The apostle Paul was not salt that had lost its savor but instead giving into his vile lust, he had kept his body under subjection lest he also be a castaway. Street preacher is correct in stating but for the grace of God we would find ourselves in the same condemnation. But his others rants have no foundation but we just consider the source and ask God to bless him and open his eyes to the truth!
Good points UPS I will also add, since this was done at a later time by me, but certainly appropriate to Mr Schaap-- [URL=http://www.independencebaptist.org/Articles/Articles/why_adulterous_pastors_should_not_be_restored.htm]]]http://www.independencebaptist.org/Articles/Articles/why_adulterous_pastors_should_not_be_restored.htm[/URL] and [URL=http://www.gty.org/resources/articles/a256/should-fallen-pastors-be-restored]]]http://www.gty.org/resources/print/articles/A256 ( Should Fallen Pastors Be Restored?)[/URL]. Just one more reason he should never return to preaching.
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News Item1/8/13 1:57 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
UPS, of course I was thinking that Mr. Schaap would become a Christian now. The Apostle Paul even killed Christians, until Christ converted him on the road to Damascus, [URL=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+9%3A2-15&version=NASB]]]Acts 9:2-15[/URL], can one hope Mr. Schaap will become a Christian, even if we shouldn't expect it.
1st Baptist Church, Hammond wrote:
At this time, we deeply regret the need to announce that First Baptist Church has dismissed our pastor, Dr. Jack Schaap, due to a sin that has caused him to forfeit his right to be our pastor. First Baptist Church is in full cooperation with our local authorities in their investigation of this matter. Our church grieves over the need to take this action and the impact it will have on our people....
excerpt from [URL=http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2012/08/01/jack-schaaps-fall-and-the-future-of-the-ifb-movement/]]]Jack Schaap’s Fall and the Future of the IFB Movement[/URL] I would argue the point this is an IFB, but appears to be more of the Pentecostal movement. I would think there are quite a good few good churches in the area, e.g., [URL=http://cfc-church.net/]]]Christian Fellowship Church[/URL] that believers in 1st Baptist should switch to, immediately.
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News Item1/8/13 7:04 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks Rufus. Ok.
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News Item1/7/13 4:09 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Schaap, should want to stay in prison as long as possible to carry out a prison ministry! ...
The difference here, Jim, is the apostle Paul could have an effective jail ministry because he had not violated the 1st, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th commandments. He had, by the grace of God, a conscience void of offense toward God and man. The apostle Paul was not salt that had lost its savor but instead giving into his vile lust, he had kept his body under subjection lest he also be a castaway. Street preacher is correct in stating but for the grace of God we would find ourselves in the same condemnation. But his others rants have no foundation but we just consider the source and ask God to bless him and open his eyes to the truth!
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News Item1/7/13 3:46 PM
  
SA moderator please redirect tbjew comments to Westboro baptist.they would appreciate his vitriol. We don't!!
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News Item1/7/13 3:31 PM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Christopher000 wrote:
True blue jew, street preacher, whatever, whoever...I've been trying to figure you out for a while now and realize now that you are certainly no Christian. Rather, you are a very disturbed, seriously pathetic individual who apparently thinks he has some distorted pipeline to God. I knew someone in Vegas tjat was similar to you; raining down fire and brimstone on anyone and everyone because they knew he was a nut. The problem with him was that he thought he was normal and it was the rest of the world that was crazy. I always thought he was possessed. He was very intelligent, but his Biblical views were odd and out there to say the least. You have no business being on the street and telling anyone of Christ.
Please don't respond to this because I think you are extremely odd and honestly, I can't understand most of what you say half the time anyway. You are a very strange, disturbed man.
Don't sweat Tony Chris. Every forum has a troll and as the axiom goes the important thing is not to feed 'em. For me, I don't think he's real. I suspect he's likely a Jesuit trained, Masonic, crypto-Jew, double-agent paid by the Mossad, GRU, ISI and Sesame Street. Regardless, he's not worthy of the attention he craves.
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News Item1/7/13 2:54 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
True blue jew, street preacher, whatever, whoever...I've been trying to figure you out for a while now and realize now that you are certainly no Christian. Rather, you are a very disturbed, seriously pathetic individual who apparently thinks he has some distorted pipeline to God. I knew someone in Vegas tjat was similar to you; raining down fire and brimstone on anyone and everyone because they knew he was a nut. The problem with him was that he thought he was normal and it was the rest of the world that was crazy. I always thought he was possessed. He was very intelligent, but his Biblical views were odd and out there to say the least. You have no business being on the street and telling anyone of Christ.
Please don't respond to this because I think you are extremely odd and honestly, I can't understand most of what you say half the time anyway. You are a very strange, disturbed man.
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News Item1/7/13 2:35 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Tony, do you have any family in Chicago? As one lady pointed out, when you masquerading as woman, she wondered if they could help you? I would suggest some Catholic or even Jewish aid societies.

I really hate to loose my tool, but you have to be rational in your arguments to make me look good.

Ah, but thanks again! for giving me the opportunity to point out [URL=http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/ruckmanism/the-truth-about-kjv-only-the-mormon-ecumenical-homosexual-and-neo-nazi-agendas]]]The Truth About KJV Only: The Mormon,Ecumenical,Homosexual,and Neo-Nazi Agendas[/URL] which was written by a Jew by race, and is now a Christian -- you should follow his example.

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News Item1/7/13 2:20 PM
True Blue Jew  Find all comments by True Blue Jew
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News Item1/7/13 2:15 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Tony Cisnero's at it again? I do know what fits you since it supports what you have said in the past and even now, [URL=http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/crj0002b.txt]]]Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists[/URL]. It's a non-Christian that you support, [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/schaap/fbcprosd.htm]]]Jack Schaap--Teaches Prosperity Doctrine![/URL]. So, again, man of many aliases Your ranting and name calling is of a sad nature. Does your family know that you are doing this?

Oh, for Christians, and we hope one day Tony may become one, check out, [URL=http://cfc-church.net/]]]Christian Fellowship Church[/URL] I doubt you'll run into the likes of "Observer, etc. etc." there and you'll get good honest preaching.

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Observer  Find all comments by Observer
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News Item1/7/13 1:54 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Schaap, should want to stay in prison as long as possible to carry out a prison ministry! The apostle Paul did. 1st Baptist was fortunate in having Schaap taken from them,

Matthew 12
33 "Either make the tree good, and its fruit good; or make the tree bad, and its fruit bad; for the tree is known by its fruit.
34 "You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good? For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart.
35 "The good man out of his good treasure brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of his evil treasure brings forth what is evil.
36 "And I say to you, that every careless word that men shall speak, they shall render account for it in the day of judgment.
37 "For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned."---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

Applying to the hypocrite Schaap, [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/schaap/general.htm]]]Jack Schaap -- The apple did not fall from the far from the Hyles' sad legacy![/URL]

If this outfit doesn't reject [URL=http://fbchbreadandcircuses.blogspot.com/2006/05/red-hot-preaching.html]]]Red Hot Preaching[/URL], try [URL=http://cfc-church.net/]]]Christian Fellowship Church[/URL] instead.

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News Item1/7/13 1:36 PM
A True Blue Jew  Find all comments by A True Blue Jew
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News Item1/7/13 1:20 PM
Out Happiness  Find all comments by Out Happiness
Your attorney will require you to blame everyone and everything else. Unless you fire your lawyer and represent yourself, he'll fire you for telling the truth.

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
"Schaap, who pleaded guilty four months ago to taking the teen girl across state lines with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, was regularly working 100-hour weeks as he struggled to raise money for the 15,000-member church, handled additional counseling responsibilities, and had to lay off staff, the memorandum said. He was also being treated for chronic and acute inflammation of his prostate – all of that led to his "aberrant" behavior with the girl who turned 17 during the relationship."
Looks like he blamed everything but himself and the choice he made. See how that compares with David owning his sin in Psalm 51.
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News Item1/7/13 12:59 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
"Schaap, who pleaded guilty four months ago to taking the teen girl across state lines with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, was regularly working 100-hour weeks as he struggled to raise money for the 15,000-member church, handled additional counseling responsibilities, and had to lay off staff, the memorandum said. He was also being treated for chronic and acute inflammation of his prostate – all of that led to his "aberrant" behavior with the girl who turned 17 during the relationship."

Looks like he blamed everything but himself and the choice he made. See how that compares with David owning his sin in Psalm 51.

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News Item1/6/13 4:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
If he wanted to reduce stress, he should have relationship with his wife! She might be a lot less stressed now.

Galatians 5
19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality,
20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you just as I have forewarned you that those who practice such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

Well, lets hope people of 1st Baptist(?) in Hammond have found a good church in the area, such as [URL=http://cfc-church.net/]]]Christian Fellowship Church[/URL] where they can get good expository preaching, q.v., [URL=http://www.gty.org/resources/articles/a152]]]Expository Preaching in a Postmodern World, Part 1[/URL], and [URL=http://www.gty.org/Resources/Print/articles/2436]]]Expository Preaching in a Postmodern World, Part 2[/URL] instead of the theatrics of [URL=http://fbchbreadandcircuses.blogspot.com/2006/05/red-hot-preaching.html]]]Red Hot Preaching[/URL].

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