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Choice News TUESDAY, JUL 3, 2012  |  19 comments  |  1 commentary
Dearborn Muslim Charged with Nine Counts of Attempted Murder for Trying to Kill Street Preachers Outside the Islamic Center of America
The video “American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI” from this year’s Dearborn Arab Festival has gone viral. The group at the center of the incident, Official Street Preachers, is led by Ruben Israel. I sat down for a candid conversation and interview with the man behind this video and got an inside exclusive look at what really happened, including a frightening vehicular attack that wasn’t captured on video.

Did the guy in the SUV pull over or was he forced to?

RI: They had to block him in. Once he was on the street they were headed his way and he was blocked in. They threw him against the car, cuffed him, frisked him, checked his car and again. It’s not like we can make this up. He is now officially charged with 9 counts of attempted murder.

GA: This never hit the news, not even in Dearborn? ...


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News Item7/7/12 4:42 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
now here's some street preaching I can get excited about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0QDOFqZaSrM#!

and:

www.crownrights.org

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News Item7/7/12 1:25 PM
Angela Wittman | Southern IL, USA  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Re Christian should know better: Thanks for the advice... But I am at the point where I really am tired of all the finger pointing among believers. I would much rather have zealous Christians out sharing the Gospel and challenging the culture than pious individuals who find fault with them. However, I respect Pastor Hammack and will listen to his commentary.
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News Item7/7/12 9:26 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Christian Zionism does not belong in Christianity. Its a new religion.

Besides changing the gospel by yoking the Christian to two covenants!! It undermines the witness of the saint to the Muslim and the Jew, who both need Christ and the eternal covenant, not condescending platitudes about running their affairs.

Christians need to listen to the brethren of Libya, Syria, and Iraq before continuing on in their anger against a religion.

"An Open Letter to America's Christian Zionist" by Gushee and Stassen

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News Item7/6/12 10:38 PM
christian should know better  Find all comments by christian should know better
"The Arab International Festival in Dearborn is the largest public gathering of Arab Americans and goes on for three days each year for the past 17 years. Tens of thousands of people attend the festival from all over the country, and those numbers include many who are not Arabs or Muslims, but come for the food, rides, music, and family fun. In the Dearborn/Detroit area these visitors provide a much needed economic boost.

"At the recent Arab International Festival in Dearborn, once again a group of “Christians” calling themselves “Bible Believers” showed up to antagonize and harrass the attendees."

Listen in to Pastor Trevor Hammack (Reformed) as he discusses how both sides, especially the Christian -- because he should know better, are at fault.

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News Item7/6/12 9:34 PM
Angela Wittman | Southern IL, USA  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
I'm with Rufus on this story... In fact some of the Christians I most admire are street preachers because they are actually living out their faith like the early disciples of Jesus Christ as found in Scripture. Perhaps some commentors need to re-read the book of Acts and take note of the riots caused and arrests of the Apostles.
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News Item7/5/12 4:21 PM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Donnell wrote:
To attract...you don't insult (even though a reference is true). I think of Paul stating that he is not ashamed of the bible, in all good conscience let's not shame others. Go Bless!
Let them be ashamed.

"Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. " - Psalms 83:16

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News Item7/5/12 12:54 PM
Donnell | Washington, D  Find all comments by Donnell
To attract...you don't insult (even though a reference is true). I think of Paul stating that he is not ashamed of the bible, in all good conscience let's not shame others. Go Bless!
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News Item7/5/12 11:39 AM
Waldo  Find all comments by Waldo
Rufus wrote:
The Lord rebuke all that would criticize street preachers, particularly those who are not in the arena.
So would be street preachers have immunity from biblical accountability regardless of the rabid drivel they spew out?

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

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News Item7/5/12 11:30 AM
tmorgan  Find all comments by tmorgan
I agree with you Rufus 100%While each person responds
to their own form of preaching, to make the pulpit a stand of candy coating smiles and telling everyone "oh smile and it will be okay" . We need to preach the Bible and allow all to know it is not sugar coated. I hear the Bible saying "you are neither hot or cold" which is as wrong as not being a Christian.
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News Item7/4/12 10:26 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
why are we for foreign adventures where musl brothhd overtakes the lands, destabilizing and causes Christians to flee, but are against musl brothd types in Michigan causing distabilization and Christians to flee?

american church is a mess.

oh no, its not a trick question. its called logic.

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News Item7/4/12 10:08 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
The Lord rebuke all that would criticize street preachers, particularly those who are not in the arena.

Their methods may be imperfect, in your eyes, but criticizing them for pointing out that Mohammed is a liar, a pervert etc. all of which are TRUE...unreal. Whose side are you on when taking such positions?

It was common for the Christians of the Bible to preach against false gods prior to showing them the true God (see Acts 19). Do you all just hang your hats on Joel Osteen verses and ignore the rest of the Bible that calls for saving people with fear?

These street preachers weren't even saying much but they were cursed at, had projectiles hurled at them and allegedly these Mohammedans attempted to kill them. Yet, even now, lukewarm, effeminate Christians see fit to criticize the Christians who are laying their lives on the line fcr the Lord. Folks need to grow a spine and support their brethren or hold their peace.

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News Item7/3/12 11:49 PM
charis2 | nc  Find all comments by charis2
My pastor & deacon worked in the Arab festival & gently witnessed to a few high born middle easterners. They were able to do so because they shared the defense of their faith in grace & love. They saw these "preachers" egg on the crowd with signs much like the Westboro gang. R they totally ignorant not to see there is NO Jesus in their approach??
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News Item7/3/12 3:53 PM
Waldo  Find all comments by Waldo
See also
http://www.christandpopculture.com/elsewhere/muslims-stoning-christians-in-michigan-not-quite/

I watched the video. Where's Tony?

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News Item7/3/12 2:13 PM
Russ | Texas  Find all comments by Russ
Yes Jim, while I thoroughly disagree with your political persuasion, I think you and John UK have it the nail on the head here.

Paul tells Timothy, "The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. (2 Timothy 2:24-26 NASB)
Rather than wield the sword of the Spirit like a two handed broadsword, maybe we can act with the thoughtfulness and precision of a surgeon.

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News Item7/3/12 1:59 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John U.K., Amen

A watered down gospel is worse than meaningless, it goes against what God says. We Must Stand Against False Doctrine

This short commentary points out What Does a True Believer Believe?

As far as some street preachers are concerned,

Proverbs 15:1 A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.
2 The tongue of the wise makes knowledge acceptable, But the mouth of fools spouts folly.
3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, Watching the evil and the good.
4 A soothing tongue is a tree of life, But perversion in it crushes the spirit.---NASB

Bad behavior gains nothing.

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News Item7/3/12 12:24 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
strainers at gnats wrote:
...how can Christianity effectively share the faith with the Muslim?
It is not possible to "share the faith", neither is it biblical. The gospel is a command. When it comes with the authority of the Spirit, Muslims and other sinners believe by the power of God, not by being shown proof.

Besides which, ecumenism is not designed to improve conversion rates, but to destroy the testimony of God, and replace it with a man-centred message.

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News Item7/3/12 12:05 PM
strainers at gnats  Find all comments by strainers at gnats
rebel rouser wrote:
If he wants to put the love of Christ on display, show them this sign:
Jesus said, "Love Even Thy Enemy."
Muslims would be completely unfamiliar with this teaching. Christians on the other hand, have known this for two thousand years yet insist on continuing the schism from the church across the street. They baptize their youth, we baptize our babies. They are teetotalers, we enjoy a quality Merlot.

Until Christian leaders bury this divisive ecclesiological hatchet (even within conservative "sister" Presbyterian denominations), how can Christianity begin to share a common summary of the four good new books with the Muslim?

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News Item7/3/12 4:00 AM
Daniel B | North  Protected NameFind all comments by Daniel B
Muhammad was all of them. All Christians need to do is just tell the truth. The truth is repent and be converted or your going hell.
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News Item7/3/12 12:50 AM
rebel rouser  Find all comments by rebel rouser
How could it be said that Reuben Israel is peacefully protesting when one of his signs reads: "Muhammad is a Liar, False Prophet, Muderer, Child Molester, Pervert"?

He's also provoking the Muslims with a bloody pig's head on a pike.

If he wants to put the love of Christ on display, show them this sign:

Jesus said, "Love Even Thy Enemy."

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