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FRONT PAGE  |  2/22/2020
THURSDAY, FEB 23, 2012  |  11 comments
Ron Paul: The choice of the troops
Anyone who believes that Ron Paul's foreign policy is a sign of weakness, or that he does not have the courage to defend this country, should talk to Dr. Paul's military supporters. More than 1,500 supporters showed up at the march on the White House in support of Congressman Paul.

Among them were over 400 active duty or retired military members participating in the rally. None of them were timid about their support of the only military veteran in the race for the Presidency.

“We support him because he supports us!” exclaimed Corporal Jesse Thorton in his speech supporting Ron Paul. Echoing the theme of the march, Thorton also said, “Ron Paul is the choice of the troops.” ...

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Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
It is strange to ask you to explain yourself?? Examples or case studies proving your point are your problem, not mine; let's hear something besides a headcount of supposedly non-isolationist states, which is not an argument, or at least, not a sound one (Bandwagon Fallacy).

Just to be clear, by “isolationist” I mean a policy of refraining from military actions or alliances with or against other nations. That means no NATO, no U.N. participation, no bases in other nations, no hypocritical economic boycotts, and no manipulative black ops. But it does *not* mean economic or diplomatic isolation like N. Korea or Albania way back when.

Can you take this much trouble to explain your position now?


News Item2/25/12 12:26 AM
Via Media  Find all comments by Via Media
Strange request. Synthesising isolationism and non-isolationism violates the law of non-contradiction but you know this.

There are 200 sovereign states in the world. Only a handful are isolationist, and only 1 sees itself as the world's policeman. If you want examples of alternative foreign policies you have no shortage of case studies for an empirical study, but you know this already.


News Item2/25/12 12:06 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Via Media wrote:
There are a lot of middle ground alternatives between outright isolationism and military interventionism. Try it sometime.
How can we try it if we don't know what you're talking about? Please enumerate “a lot?” And what ethical principle underlies them all? Why is your middle ground superior?

If you don't like antitheses, then do us a favor & explain the synthesis.


News Item2/24/12 8:29 PM
Via Media  Find all comments by Via Media
There are a lot of middle ground alternatives between outright isolationism and military interventionism. Try it sometime.

News Item2/24/12 7:54 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Notwithstanding its lack of popularity, I support isolationism (AKA Mind Your Own Business). Interventionism (initially a Progressive policy) is immoral & doesn't make foreigners better & safer either. But it does make them angry at us; recall why Bin Laden attacked the WTS (US bases in Saudi). A generation before that, it gave the Communists a wonderful foil to use for their propaganda, for the US destabilized democratically-elected rulers (CIA Operations Ajax & PBSUCCESS) because we didn't like their politics. Would Americans like it if someone did that to us? Why is the Golden Rule so hard to understand?

A popular myth about WW2 is that America was isolationist during the '30s. False: While we indeed stayed out of European affairs, we interfered in Asia because of our little empire, stolen from Spain (BTW betraying Cuban & Filipino revolutionaries along the way). And because we and Europeans had Asian colonies, the Japanese reasonably inferred they had a right to them as well. Sort of like Iran & the Bomb; if we have it, it sounds pretty hypocritical to say they can't.


News Item2/24/12 6:41 PM
Dirk Yoder  Find all comments by Dirk Yoder
Too bad the troops don't choose Jesus Christ.

News Item2/24/12 2:36 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Very few Americans want an isolationist country that Ron Paul would have us have. Ron Paul suffers from many failings, [URL=]]]Ron Paul and America's Alleged Racism[/URL] which that a candidate such as Rick Santorum doesn't, [URL=]]]Why Not Rick Santorum?[/URL] No, Ron Paul will never get my vote in this election!

News Item2/23/12 11:29 AM
F Rosen  Find all comments by F Rosen
Or rather, it would be more accurate to say that Ron Paul is the choice of his very small number of supporters among the troops. Kinda non-news.

Of course, it is unAmerican to believe in a nanny state ... except for Veterans, then a nanny state is mandatory.


News Item2/23/12 8:43 AM
Marty | Usa  Find all comments by Marty
Worldly Wise wrote:
Listen to Mohler's 8 minute commentary on Paul this week. He's not nearly as pro-life as he's leading us to believe.

News Item2/23/12 1:00 AM
Worldly Wise  Find all comments by Worldly Wise
Listen to Mohler's 8 minute commentary on Paul this week. He's not nearly as pro-life as he's leading us to believe.

News Item2/23/12 12:35 AM
Derrick | NC  Find all comments by Derrick
I'm voting for Ron Paul. He makes a lot of sense.
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