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FRONT PAGE  |  11/19/2017
WEDNESDAY, NOV 30, 2011  |  33 comments  |  3 commentaries
Special Report on 'Pastor' Youcef Nadarkhani
Youcef Nadarkhani
During 2011 Parsa Trust has received many enquiries about the alleged Iranian Pastor who has been under death sentence in Iran. We felt that as various evangelical and secular media have misinformed the public, it is time to give a short report on the faith of Youcef Nadarkhani and others of his colleagues.

Youcef Nadarkhani has been reported in both the secular and Christian media and periodicals to be under a death sentence for his conversion from Islam to evangelical Christianity. He was arrested on 12th October 2009, in the city of Rasht in the northern part of Iran, where he had been the pastor of the underground church there. He is reported to be the evangelical pastor of “the Church of Iran”. However, what might come as a shock to many evangelical believers is that Pastor Nadarkhani is actually one of the leaders in a growing cult in Iran, which is linked with the Oneness Pentecostalism (Jesus Only) cult, which is non-Trinitarian, believes in baptismal regeneration, and is very closely linked and supported by the United Pentecostal Churches outside of Iran. They greatly admire and follow the teachings of an American preacher, William M. Branham, who claimed to be the last of God's prophets on earth, that the doctrine of the Trinity is from the devil, and only those who are baptised in Jesus' name are saved.


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News Item12/6/11 2:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Trinity:

2 Corinthians 13
14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.
Matthew 28
18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."---NASB
etc.
as also pointed out in the summary for the sermon, 'Behold, He is Coming'
For those who need the obvious pointed out to them.

Easton Dictionary wrote:
Bible, the English form of the Greek name _Biblia_, meaning "books," the name which in the fifth century began to be given to the entire collection of sacred books, the "Library of Divine Revelation." The name Bible was adopted by Wickliffe, and came gradually into use in our English language. . . .
Above,Persecution Continues for Pastor
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News Item12/4/11 5:30 PM
Henk  Contact via emailFind all comments by Henk
The word "Bible" replaced the word "bibliothek" as the word for "Scripture" in the 3rd century A.D. The word "Scripture" is found in the Bible. So yes, in a sense, "Bible" is found in the Bible..

War wrote:
Note: The word "Bible" is also not in the Bible.
Perhaps y'all are having a war of words but are both on the same page when it comes to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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News Item12/4/11 5:18 PM
War  Find all comments by War
Note: The word "Bible" is also not in the Bible.

Perhaps y'all are having a war of words but are both on the same page when it comes to your prayers:

In the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

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News Item12/4/11 4:57 PM
DanielB  Find all comments by DanielB
James repent from your trinity heresy for not one verse in the bible says "holy trinity"
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News Item12/1/11 6:01 PM
James R Hamilton | Staffordshire, England, UK  Protected NameContact via emailFind all comments by James R  Hamilton
A person who does not believe in the Trinity is not a Christian. To believe in Jesus Christ means you believe in all the Bible's propositions concerning him, including what he taught. He taught the existence of God in three persons, and being one of them, also the ultimate revealer of God, don't you think he ought to know?
Also you need to realise that the heresy of Pentecostalism, of which this cult is reportedly part of, is like a virus, it is constantly changing, and with each change it becomes more deadly. For this man Yucef and his followers, and all deniers of the Holy Trinity, and Pentecostals, there is one message, repent and believe the gospel.
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News Item11/30/11 4:12 PM
Graeme Waller | Finland  Find all comments by Graeme Waller
Bill Schell wrote:
(1) We need to be very careful about naming someone as being in a cult or saying someone is not a Christian. (2) Only someone truly ignorant of the Scriptures or blindly following a man's teaching can say they understand the Trinity or can explain it satisfactorily. (3) In history, people who seemed to be Christians were responsible for actually killing other people who believed in Jesus Christ as Lord because they did not agree with their understanding of the Trinity. (I John 3 says everyone who hates his brother is a murderer.) (4)Hebrews 1:8 "But of the Son He says, 'Your throne , O God , is forever and ever.'" Yes, Jesus is God. He had to be sinless to die for our sins. On the other hand, Jesus said, I go to My God and your God. (5) Rom. 14:12-13 So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore . . . .
Very good post! Whatever his doctrinal stance, the fact is that we should all be praying for him. If he is astray and leading others astray just add that to prayers for him, his family and all Christians in Iran.

My 2 cents endeth here.

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News Item11/30/11 2:55 PM
RP  Find all comments by RP
I was reading the comments and thought I'd contribute a consideration. Compare and consider Gen.1:26 with 1 Thess.5:23
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News Item11/30/11 2:48 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Londonderrry wrote:
...I found Clark's work on 'The Incarnation' incredibly helpful.
A short paper by Clark (I think it's the Preface to his book on the subject): The Trinity

A correction: Near the bottom, he says "That there are paradoxes in Scripture is undoubtedly true." I think he meant "difficulties," for in his other writings, he emphatically denied that Scripture has any bona fide paradoxes in it. BTW, in the '40s, he was persecuted by Westminster Seminary faculty for this claim.

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News Item11/30/11 2:23 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
DanielB wrote:
1 John 5:7 is the perfect place were it says that God, Jesus, and the holy spirit are one. What about 1 Timithy 3:16 God manifested himself in the flesh, justified by the spirit, seen of angels.
KJV
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

I see no contradiction with trinitarian dogma, rather it supports it. Its Pastor Yousef that would have trouble with that verse. Imagine when one of his followers asks him about

Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

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News Item11/30/11 2:17 PM
Londonderrry | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by Londonderrry
I think Gordon Clark defined a 'person' very well as 'a composite of propositions' and some propositions that the Son of G-d can rightfully claim cannot be equally claimed of the Father or the Holy Spirit (eg. 'I assumed a human body and soul'). The same could be said regarding the persons of the Father and Holy Spirit in their own unique propositions.

I found Clark's work on 'The Incarnation' incredibly helpful.

Dirk Yoder wrote:
Could someone define person please?
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News Item11/30/11 2:13 PM
Dirk Yoder  Find all comments by Dirk Yoder
Ok, 5 comments and no one can define person?

(I don't care for sports btw)

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News Item11/30/11 2:12 PM
DanielB  Find all comments by DanielB
1 John 5:7 is the perfect place were it says that God, Jesus, and the holy spirit are one. What about 1 Timithy 3:16 God manifested himself in the flesh, justified by the spirit, seen of angels.
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News Item11/30/11 2:10 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
DanielB wrote:
Nobody here is denying the holy spirit of God that dwells in us it is true it's all over the whole bible I'm talking about your trinity where is that word ever taught in the bible? Not one apostle ever taught a doctrine like that.
Paul didnt use the word trinity, but rather 'Godhead.'

Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

John didnt use the word trinity, but gave us the trinitarian prooftext.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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I wont argue you have to believe the trinity, but I will say you can not deny it.
Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

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News Item11/30/11 1:45 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
DanielB wrote:
Nobody here is denying the holy spirit of God that dwells in us it is true it's all over the whole bible I'm talking about your trinity where is that word ever taught in the bible? Not one apostle ever taught a doctrine like that.
Fair enough, except for the apostle John, whom you ignore. 1 John 5:7.

More importantly, what must a man do to inherit eternal life?

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News Item11/30/11 1:38 PM
DanielB  Find all comments by DanielB
Nobody here is denying the holy spirit of God that dwells in us it is true it's all over the whole bible I'm talking about your trinity where is that word ever taught in the bible? Not one apostle ever taught a doctrine like that.
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News Item11/30/11 12:24 PM
SteveR | Upper Midwest  Find all comments by SteveR
Dirk Yoder wrote:
Could someone define person please?
How about defining 'mediator' or even 'God?' If someone trusted their salvation to a Dominican Baseball Player named 'Jesus' with a .400 batting average & 1.2 ERA, are they saved after baseball season ends after calling on his name?
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News Item11/30/11 12:15 PM
Dirk Yoder  Find all comments by Dirk Yoder
Could someone define person please?
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News Item11/30/11 11:56 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
DanielB wrote:
Steve you should do your research into a belief before send them to hell. I beileve in only one God who is my lord Jesus Christ and he is also the son of God and the son of man. Tell me since when does salvation come from knowing the trinity? The word of God says
You greatly overestimate my authority. I have no such power to send heretics to perdition. However, I do provide testimony that those who deny the Holy Ghost are in danger of everlasting perdition.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

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News Item11/30/11 11:54 AM
C.S. Lewis  Find all comments by C.S. Lewis
How "mere" can Mere Christianity be before it becomes nothing or even anti-Christ?
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News Item11/30/11 11:44 AM
DanielB  Find all comments by DanielB
The word of God says that salvation is thru faith in Jesus Christ alone and not no doctrine of man.
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