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Tergyle:There are scriptural doctrines in the RCC and scriptural parts to the Mass. If you can't recognize that then there is something wrong with you. You call the doctrines of the Deity Of Jesus, the Holy Trinity, the Virgin Birth Of Jesus unscriptural? And you call the Bible readings, the Lord's Prayer, prayers to Jesus and the words of Jesus from the Last Supper unscriptural? The list of the scriptural doctrines and scriptural parts to the Mass above proves that your statement that the entirety of the RCC is unscriptural is False. And since church membership is not a requirement for salvation then why do you believe that everybody who becomes Born Again has to unite with a Fundamentalist Protestant Church or else they are not really saved?
Jim Lincoln:You stated that if a person observes RCC tradition then they can't be Born Again. Well guess what? I DO NOT OBSERVE THE UNSCRIPTURAL RCC TRADITIONS. I ONLY OBSERVE THE SCRIPTURAL RCC TRADITIONS. And since church membership is not required for salvation then why do you believe that the Holy Spirit cares what church someone who is Born Again attends as long as the church worships Jesus as God? The RCC has always worshipped Jesus as God and therefore it is a True Church.
John Yurich USA wrote: Of course I believe in "ONLY SCRIPTURE", "ONLY CHRIST", "ONLY GRACE", "ONLY FAITH" AND "TO GOD ALONE BE GLORY". I also totally reject the unscriptural Roman Catholic traditions and doctrines. I only accept the biblical Roman Catholic doctrines. So I really am Born Again because I have the five marks of a believer.
James 1 22 But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; 24 for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. 25 But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer James 2 14 What use is it, my brethren, if a man says he has faith, but he has no works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and be filled," and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? 17 Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.---NASB
John Yurich USA wrote: if someone who is Born Again does not leave the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church and Mainline Protestant Churches and does not unite with a Fundamentalist Protestant Church then they are not saved. That is so unscriptural because
John Yurich, Christians DO NOT attend nor support blasphemy, idolatry nor heresy, such as is found in the antichrists RCC.
When 'saved' the Christian knows and attends the true worship of God.
A cult, such as the Roman Catholic one, that worships dead bodies - bits of dead bodies - bits of wood and material which are worshipped because they touched a 'favoured' sinner many moons ago IS DEFINITELY NOT a Christian church, in fact it sounds more like, quote, "deranged, psychotic and delusional imbeciles" (Your favourite words).
The Roman Catholic "church?" is UNSCRIPTURAL in all of its practices and doctrines. The Holy Spirit will NOT be found there.
Wydlwr wrote: John Yurich You wouldn't know "born again" from wear the T.Shirt again, judging by your previous posts and that you attend the antichrists idolatrous blasphemous practices.
In November of 1997 during an Altar Call at my brothers Non Denominational Church I prayed to Jesus and asked Him to come into my heart and cleanse me of all sins and become my Personal Lord and Savior. And thus I became Born Again at that time. I fulfilled the one and only requirement for salvation and that is to receive Jesus as ones Personal Lord and Savior. Church membership in any church and that includes Fundamentalist Protestant Churches is not a requirement for salvation. But according to you if someone who is Born Again does not leave the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church and Mainline Protestant Churches and does not unite with a Fundamentalist Protestant Church then they are not saved. That is so unscriptural because when everybody stands before Jesus after they pass away Jesus will not look at the church that one attended to decide who enters Heaven. He will only look at if one had received Him as their Personal Lord and Savior. That is what I learned from Baptist and Pentecostal ministers on television.
__ wrote: Trusting in these two relics of the Reformation to save you is like stepping onto a cloud to support your weight. You fall either way.
On the contrary, these two doctrines are biblical and very necessary.
If you think about it, YOUR version of salvation is like stepping on a cloud to support your weight for eternity. Why? Because salvation is not about MY FAITH saving me, now that would be ridiculous. No, my faith is in what JESUS CHRIST has done on behalf of sinners, HE has done it ALL. Therefore salvation is secure, definite.
To compare YOUR meagre works with THE WORK of JESUS CHRIST in his life, death and resurrection, as a means to your salvation is tantamount to self-righteousness of the highest order, and is found also in the NT with the Pharisees, who were roundly condemned by Jesus.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved...." Acts 16:31.
__ wrote: Catholics have Christ and salvation correct (Lutheran-Roman Catholic dialogue). One-by-one Bible Christians and realizing that Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide don't square with the Bible, are illogical and are coming home. Trusting in these two relics of the Reformation to save you is like stepping onto a cloud to support your weight. You fall either way.
Unmonikered Thanks for the quote humorous disinformation.
As a former never to be Roman Catholic, one of many who knows what it is to be born again of the Holy Spirit (which didn't happen when our parents had us sprinkled) renouncing infant baptism and following the Lord Jesus Christ in believer's baptism, I am so thankful that God saved me out of your all's false and worthless religious system and many other former Catholics as well.
Why even the testimony of John Paul II and Mother Teresa show they were unable to find salvation in the Roman Catholic Church and faced their death dreading where they would spend eternity.
Jim Lincoln wrote: John Y., you are not burn again, unless you show the Marks of the True Believer if you don't you aren't born again. Of course, if you are born-again, the Romish Church would curse you because you would believe in "Only Scripture," "Only Christ," "Only Grace," "Only Faith," and "To God Alone Be Glory" and would also totally reject Roman Catholic Tradition. If you don't do that, you aren't born again.
Of course I believe in "ONLY SCRIPTURE", "ONLY CHRIST", "ONLY GRACE", "ONLY FAITH" AND "TO GOD ALONE BE GLORY". I also totally reject the unscriptural Roman Catholic traditions and doctrines. I only accept the biblical Roman Catholic doctrines. So I really am Born Again because I have the five marks of a believer.
Since the English church defines itself, "The faith of Anglicans is founded in the scriptures, the traditions of the apostolic church, the apostolic succession â "historic episcopate" and the early Church Fathers...." Anglicanism. It has an anti-Christian basis since the Anglican Church denies sola scriptura.
Wydlwr wrote: Christians do not attend the Anglican clubs!
That is a false statement. It is a fact that there are individuals in the Anglican Church who are Born Again by reason of having received Jesus as their Personal Lord and Savior by praying to Him and asking Him to become their Savior. There are also individuals who are Born Again in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church and Mainline Protestant Churches. Born Again individuals are not just in Fundamentalist Protestant Churches. Just because you have the stupid and unscriptural notion that everybody who becomes Born Again has to leave the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church and Mainline Protestant Churches and unite with a Fundamentalist Protestant Church or else they are not really saved does not mean that it is true. According to the Holy Bible church membership is not required for salvation. According to the Bible the only requirement for salvation is to become Born Again by receiving Jesus as ones Personal Lord and Savior. When everybody stands before Jesus after they pass away the subject of church membership will not be brought up to determine who will be let into Heaven. The only thing that Jesus will look at is that He was received as Personal Lord and Savior.
"the Archbishop of Sydney, told The Daily Telegraph that taking references to the birth of Jesus Christ out of school books was an âintellectually absurd attempt to write Christ out of human history"
Of course the Archbishop being an Anglican has already taken the Bible out of his church anyway, so his ranting about BC is hypocritical to say the least.
These Liberals have destroyed authority in the church and the state, which is partly why the Biblical message has been lost in society.