Describing Heaven: Pastor, Pronounced Dead, Says He Was There
Don Piper says he remembers music that was "beyond spectacular" and aromas he'd never smelled before. His grandfather was there to greet him warmly, as dozens of others who had died in years past stood before him in front of a magnificent gate.
Piper, an ordained Baptist minister, insists it was no dream: He visited heaven, he said, and chronicled his experience in the New York Times bestseller, "90 Minutes in Heaven."
"It was the most real thing that ever happened to me," he said.
alan, As I've Said MANY TIMES; I Guess You're NOT Familiar With THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED+HOLY+BIBLE, Especially THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED+ENGLISH+HOLY+BIBLE; That Is, THE KING JAMES BIBLE--Which Says:
"For The PREACHING (PROCLAIMING, HERALDING, SHOUTING, SCREAMING, "CORUSOING") Of The Cross Is To Them That Perish FOOLISHNESS; But Unto US Which Are Saved IT IS THE POWER OF GOD.
For It Is Written: I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND BRING TO NOTHING THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PRUDENT.
WHERE IS THE WISE ? WHERE IS THE SCRIBE ? WHERE IS THE DISPUTER OF THIS WORLD ? HATH NOT GOD MADE FOOLISH THE WISDOM OF THIS WORLD ?
FOR AFTER THAT IN THE WISDOM OF GOD THE WORLD BY WISDOM KNEW NOT GOD, IT PLEASED GOD BY THE FOOLISHNESS OF PREACHING TO SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE...
BECAUSE THE FOOLISHNESS OF GOD IS WISER THAN MEN, AND THE WEAKNESS OF GOD IS STRONGER THAN MEN.
FOR YE SEE YOUR CALLING, BRETHREN, HOW THAT NOT MANY WISE MEN AFTER THE FLESH, NOT MANY MIGHTY, NOT MANY NOBLE, ARE CALLED:
BUT GOD HATH CHOSEN THE FOOLISH THINGS OF THE WORLD TO CONFOUND THE WISE...THE WEAK THINGS...THE BASE THINGS...THE THINGS WHICH ARE DESPISED...AND THINGS WHICH ARE NOT, TO BRING TO NOUGHT THINGS THAT ARE..." I COR. 1:18-29 !
I am skeptical that God revealed these things to Don Piper, because the presentation of the gospel which he gives at the link below is a man-centered, Arminian approach.
"This salvation is a free gift. We'll never be "good" enough to earn it, but God is willing to give it to us anyway. That's called "grace." But like any gift, it has to be received. There is a giver (that's God) and a receiver (that's you).
Here's the biggest step you must take:
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." Acts 16:31
"If you confess with your mouth, ‚ÄėJesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9
That means you must truly believe that Jesus is who He said He was: the Son of God ‚Ä¶ that He died on the cross for your sins (He had no sin, so He did not deserve to die.) You need to believe that He conquered death ‚Ä¶ that He rose from the grave and even now is completing Heaven for us. ..."
He goes on to take John 3:16 out of context and so on, contradicting things written in Romans 9 or Ephesians 1 and 2, for example. I am suspicious of anyone who claims to have received direct revelation but then gives distorted teaching regarding salvation.
TLC. As I have said many times of other posters, or your aliases... not really sure which... most readers of the internet do not read block caps. It is like writing a childrens book in fancy colours. People wanting serious information will look for serious posters who use real words. On a computer block capitals are either a heading or when in chat format like this they are considered RUDE SHOUTING!
I don't listen to rude shouting people on the street, and I don't read your posts either. If you want people to listen, stop shouting in their ears/eyes and maybe they will give you some attention.
My, My, all caps again so people can see your nonsense better? You wouldn't know anything about salvation being anti-Semitic and a racist, You identify with [URL=http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/crj0002b.txt]]]Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists[/URL]. I might add, I have to apologize to the person who you say is your pastor. He made some intelligent remarks about the AV.
Jack Schaap, Pastor 1st Baptist Church Hammond, Ind. wrote: For one to believe that God inspired the King James Version of the Bible, he would be espousing Catholic or charsmatic theology. Both groups theologically believe that God can and does still "speak" today, either though the papal office "ex cathedra," or by way of a "a word of knowledge," supposedly used to more perfectly and accurately pronounce and define God's will for man. Kindly put, that theological position is heresy to those of us who believe that the Words of Scripture were ended with the completion of John's finished manuscript of The revelation approximately 95-100 A.D.
from his gook, "Where are We Going?"
I'm curious, have you even gotten your GED yet? I would at least like to be made to look good by someone with a smattering of education.
WRONG "jim lincoln" ! As THE HOLY BIBLE Is NOT The ONLY "Revelation" That TRUE Christians Have--Or Haven't you Heard That A TRUE CHRISTIAN'S ETERNAL SPIRITUAL SALVATION IS ALSO A DIVINE "REVELATION" IN & OF ITSELF:
SOMETHING THAT "jim lincoln" WOULDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT--BECAUSE he HAS NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT DIVINE HOLY-BIBLICAL & HOLY-SPIRITUAL "REVELATION" & ETERNAL SPIRITUAL SALVATION !
FOR CHRIST'S GOSPEL CAME NOT IN WORD ONLY--IN SCRIPTURE ONLY--BUT ALSO:
SOMETHING "jim lincoln" DOESN'T HAVE BECAUSE he DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT BIBLE !
#2.IN THE HOLY GHOST (SPIRIT)
SOMEONE "jim lincoln" DOESN'T HAVE BECAUSE he HASN'T TRUELY BEEN AUTHORIZED-BIBLICALLY & HOLY-SPIRITUALLY "BORN AGAIN" !
#3.IN MUCH ASSURANCE
SOMETHING "jim lincoln" WILL NEVER HAVE UNTIL he's GENUINELY & TRUELY AUTHORIZED-BIBLICALLY & HOLY-SPIRITUALLY "BORN AGAIN":
THAT IS, NOT UNTIL "jim lincoln" RECIEVES THE DIVINE "REVELATION" OF AUTHORIZED-BIBLICAL & HOLY-SPIRITUAL "REGENERATION" !
AND UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, "jim lincoln", LIKE ALL LOST, HELL-BOUND & HELL-DESERVING SINNERS: WILL NOT SEE LIFE; BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM (& THEM) !
"jim lincoln": MARVEL NOT THAT CHRIST JESUS SAYS UNTO THEE "YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN" !
No, TLC, the only revelation that Christians have is Only the Bible, a very good definition of who a Christian is, [URL=http://www.fivesolas.com/5solas.htm]]]"Only Scripture," "Only Christ," "Only Grace," "Only Faith," and "To God Alone Be Glory"[/URL].
I would suggest that you read all of the commentaries on "Charismatic Chaos," but apparently a good one for you to start with is, [URL=http://www.ondoctrine.com/2mac0076.htm]]]Are Experiences a Valid Form of Truth?[/URL]. Of course there is an excellent sermon by Gil Rugh on, [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=21304175924]]]Theology of Experience vs. Scripture[/URL].
I would suggest some of you might wish to read the [URL=http://pdf-ebooks.net/sample/52554/facts-on-near-death-experiences]]]The Facts on Near-Death Experiences[/URL].
But, GOD'S TRUE SAINTS Don't JUST Have THE HOLY BIBLE & THE HOLY GOSPEL As Their ONLY Witness & Testimony:
"Knowing, Brethren Beloved, Your Election Of GOD.
For OUR GOSPEL Came Not Unto You IN WORD ONLY, But ALSO In POWER, And In THE HOLY GHOST (SPIRIT), And In MUCH ASSURANCE; As Ye Know What Manner Of Men We Were Among You For Your Sake.
And Ye Became Followers Of US, And Of THE LORD, Having Received THE WORD In MUCH AFFLICTION, With JOY OF THE HOLY GHOST (SPIRIT)." I Thessalonians 1:4-6
When CHRIST Related The TRUE ACCOUNT (NOT "PARABLE") OF "THE RICH MAN & LAZARUS" In Luke 16:19-31--CHRIST WAS ADDRESSING THE "JEWS" OR "THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL"; NOT, I REPEAT NOT, THE "GENTILES" NOR THE "CHURCH" OF GOD !
Therefore, In The Context Of LUKE 16:19-31, The "Hear(ing) Not MOSES And THE PROPHETS" Is Only Applicable To "THE JEWS &-OR THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL": At The Time CHRIST Spoke Those Words To His Race, People & Nation.
***Today, "The Jews", "Israel" & THE WORLD ("The Gentiles" & "The Church Of GOD") Now Has NOT ONLY "Moses And The Prophets" (The Old Testament), But ALSO "Christ And The Apostles" (The New Testament) & THE LIVING TESTIMONY OF THOSE WHO'VE "OVERC[O]ME [SATAN] BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB" & "BY THE WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY" !
What's Wrong With Just Believing The TRUTH Instead !
When I Was A Child My Mother Would Always Tell Us, Her Children, How She Died & Went To Heaven While Giving Birth To One Of My Older Brothers.
The Year Was 1956.
It Was Time For My Older Brother To Be Born.
My Mother Was Rushed To The County Hospital.
My Mother Was Losing Consciousness When She Arrived In The Hospital's Delivery Room.
As She Was Losing Consciousness She Could Hear A "Whirling Sound" Something Like "The Whirling Of A Spinning Top"--She Could Faintly Hear The Nurses Say To The Doctor "We're Losing Her Pulse, We're Losing Her Pulse"...
She Said She Saw This Black Tunnel; And A Pin-sized Light At The End Of The Tunnel.
She Said The "Whirling" Became Louder & Louder As She Was Going Thru This Tunnel; Until She Came To The Other Side Of The Tunnel.
That's When She Said She Was In The Presence Of GOD.
HE Was Gigantic & Seated On A Huge Throne.
She Said The Light Of HIS GLORY Was So Bright That She Struggled To See HIS FACE.
When HE Acknowledged Her Presence, HE Turned HIS Face From Her; And, With HIS "PURE" & "BEAUTIFUL" HAND Pushed Her From HIS PRESENCE--Sending Her Back.
While Still Awakening, She Said She Could Hear The Nurses Repeatedly Saying: "Don't Tell Her What Happened."