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FRONT PAGE  |  10/15/2019
Choice News SUNDAY, JUL 17, 2011  |  48 comments
Apologist Josh McDowell: Internet the Greatest Threat to Christians
“What has changed everything?” asked the apologist from Campus Crusade for Christ International as he spoke on “Unshakable Truth, Relevant Faith” at the Billy Graham Center in Asheville, N.C., Friday evening. His answer was, the Internet.

“The Internet has given atheists, agnostics, skeptics, the people who like to destroy everything that you and I believe, the almost equal access to your kids as your youth pastor and you have... whether you like it or not,” said McDowell.


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News Item8/3/11 6:14 PM
takeheed  Find all comments by takeheed
Bibliophile wrote:
Tony,
Nobody on this blog (or any other blog, for that matter) cares about your irrelevant, unbiblical and uncharitable rants.
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News Item8/3/11 5:29 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Bibliophile wrote:
Christ's unsoiled reputation matters to us.
CATHOLIC Bibliophile

Christ's unsoiled reputation matters to us?

CATHOLIC Bibliophile, first there isn't an (quote) us here. You are a Roman Catholic, your teaches contrary to Scripture, your Church's teachings on Salvation are contrary to Scripture, your church's worship (I know you call it "veneration") of Mary is contrary to Scripture. And please let's not forget your imagery of [URL=http://www.marypages.com/InfantJesusPrague.htm]]]Infant Jesus of Prague[/URL] AND your church shed the blood of untold numbers of non-catholic people with her inquistions.

AND of course the plague of the unsuccessful cover ups of pedophile priests by your supposedly holy church, that has wrought untold evil on Roman Catholic people.

So we are supposed to believe you when you say, "Christ's unsoiled reputation matters to us.", I don't think so!

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News Item8/2/11 10:46 PM
Bibliophile  Find all comments by Bibliophile
Street-Preacher wrote:
LIARS !
YOU SERVE LUCIFER & THE SATANIC+VATICAN WITH THEIR CORRUPT EGYPTIAN-ALEXANDRIAN-ARIAN MANUSCRIPTS & NASB !:
Tony,

Why do you strike a fellow Christian like a viper?

Your conviction on an English Bible translation is, just that, yours.

Nobody on this blog (or any other blog, for that matter) cares about your irrelevant, unbiblical and uncharitable rants.

Is Christ's and your reputation of no value to you?

Christ's unsoiled reputation matters to us.

Please cease and desist with the attacks against Jim Lincoln, etc.

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News Item8/2/11 10:19 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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News Item8/2/11 2:38 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, comic relief again? Now it's time for the voice of reason as a contrast
First of all Tony is a racist, He's the one who called himself a Kennite and puts anti-Semitic remarks on this url and others. As such he is a supporter of [URL=http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/crj0002b.txt]]]Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists[/URL].

Again ah, always his abusive mouth, something a follower of ...not Christ...suffers from,
Collosians 3
6 For it is on account of these things that the wrath of God will come,
7 and in them you also once walked, when you were living in them.
8 But now you also, put them all aside: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth.
9 Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with its evil practices,
10 and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him
11 --a renewal in which there is no distinction between Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

Try, [URL=http://cfc-church.net/]]]Christian Fellowship Church[/URL] to avoid Tony!

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News Item8/2/11 2:36 PM
Bibliophile  Find all comments by Bibliophile
Street-Preacher wrote:
"jim lincoln" IS A PATHETIC JOKE, FREEMASONIC SYMPATHIZING RACIST & LIAR !
he SERVES SATAN & SATAN'S VATICAN WITH THEIR CORRUPT EGYPTIAN-ALEXANDRIAN-ARIAN MANUSCRIPTS & NASB !
You, sir, are a bully and menace to all things good.

Your selfishness is legendary on this and other blogs.

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News Item8/2/11 2:25 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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News Item8/2/11 2:09 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
You know there are two reasons not to pay attention, which will lead to a third,

You're a racist, (Kennite!? what a joke you not a jew, or if you are a traitorous one.) [URL=http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/crj0002b.txt]]]Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists[/URL].

Your abusive speech, isn't Christian either--
Collosians 3
6 For it is on account of these things that the wrath of God will come,
7 and in them you also once walked, when you were living in them.
8 But now you also, put them all aside: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth.
9 Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with its evil practices,
10 and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him
11 --a renewal in which there is no distinction between Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

The above two items, which apply to you, means that you are lying when you say you are a Christian, which you obvious are not.

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News Item8/2/11 1:51 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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News Item7/31/11 7:50 PM
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News Item7/30/11 2:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I would hope someone would point out what a pathetic joke you are, Tony. Your rough mouth stamps you as anti-Christian. By the way do you wear a clown suit while wildly waving a Bible in the air? You really should.
Doug Kutilek wrote:
Most English speakers cannot read Greek or Hebrew (or Aramaic--the language used in parts of Daniel, Ezra, and one verse of Jeremiah). Therefore, if they are to have access to the words inspired by God in those Biblical languages, they need a translation of those words into English. But we must be cautious here: the degree to which an English Bible translation fails to accurately, clearly, and fully convey the meaning and content of the originals, to that degree it FAILS to attain to its very reason for existence. Any obscurity, ambiguity or inaccuracy that exists in a translation--and is knowingly allowed to remain in that translation--is an affront to the very purpose for that translation's existence.
excerpt from, [URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_restating_obvious.htm]]]Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations[/URL] and of course I can add, [URL=http://www.bible.ca/b-kjv-only.htm#errors]]]Indisputable, universally recognized errors in the KJV[/URL]. See my former messages.
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News Item7/29/11 5:33 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
LIAR ! YOU SERVE LUCIFER & THE SATANIC+VATICAN WITH THEIR CORRUPT EGYPTIAN-ALEXANDRIAN-ARIAN MANUSCRIPTS & NASB !:

As Those Who Raise NASBs In Their Hands &-Or Hearts Do; As, Pseudo-Fundamentalists, Apostates, Heretics, The GOD-Cursed & Damned Ala 1 JN 5:7 & REV 22:18-19 Of THE+HISTORIC+AUTHORIZED+ENGLISH+BIBLE, Do !

**BUT THE TRUE BIBLICAL GOD SAYS:

"LIFT UP YOUR HANDS IN THE SANCTUARY, AND BLESS THE LORD." PS 134:2

"AND SAY UNTO THEM, THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD; IN THE DAY WHEN I CHOSE ISRAEL, AND LIFTED UP MINE HAND UNTO THE SEED OF THE HOUSE OF JACOB, AND MADE MYSELF KNOWN UNTO THEM IN THE LAND OF EGYPT, WHEN I LIFTED UP MINE HAND UNTO THEM, SAYING, I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD;" EZ 20:5

"AND YE SHALL KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD, WHEN I SHALL BRING YOU INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL, INTO THE COUNTRY FOR THE WHICH I LIFTED UP MINE HAND TO GIVE IT TO YOUR FATHERS." EZ 20:42

"AND YE SHALL INHERIT IT, ONE AS WELL AS ANOTHER: CONCERNING THE WHICH I LIFTED UP MINE HAND TO GIVE IT UNTO YOUR FATHERS: AND THIS LAND SHALL FALL UNTO YOU FOR INHERITANCE." EZ 47:14

"AND MOSES SAID...I WILL SPREAD ABROAD MY HANDS UNTO THE LORD...

AND MOSES...SPREAD ABROAD HIS HANDS UNTO THE LORD..." EX 9:29-33

"BUT MOSES HANDS...WERE STEADY UNTIL THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN. EX 17:12

"WAVE THEM" !

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News Item7/29/11 3:00 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I see you support Satan. By the way have you really left the Romish Church? You are one of the best Fifth Columnist for it that I have seen. of course since you support [URL=http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/crj0002b.txt]]]Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists[/URL]. The pretense that you are superior to anyone else is clearly anti-Christian.

Galatians 3
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

No one is a Jew unless he meets the specifications, [URL=http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm]]]Who is a Jew?[/URL] one who says he is, and doesn't meet those standards is a prevaricator.

I would ask viewers of SA is a church that attracts such people as SP (and his various identities) the type you want to go to in the Chicago area? I would suggest if you are a Christian in the Chicago area check out, [URL=http://cfc-church.net/]]]Christian Fellowship Church[/URL].

On on Bibles--[URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_restating_obvious.htm]]]Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations[/URL]. If it isn't in modern understandable English, toss it out.

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News Item7/29/11 9:10 AM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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News Item7/28/11 2:56 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
We don't hold up Bibles like Catholic relics, ah, remember the comment by William Bell Riley?
"Is the King James version absolutely inerrant? On this point we are inclined to think that, even unto comparatively recent years, such a theory has been entertained. The result, of course, is to make a sort of fetish of the book. That is why, in many a family, it is kept on the center-table and seldom used. They do not want to soil its sacredness…." in, [URL=http://www.dbts.edu/journals/1999/Combs.pdf]]]Errors in the King James Version?[/URL] No, rather we read them as they do in a church in your area does, [URL=http://cfc-church.net/]]]Christian Fellowship Church[/URL]. Read the home page of that church, and see how one respects the Bible. Pastor Riley would probably or swung around in the air like a brazen serpent.

By the way, have you ever read?

Colossian 4
5 Conduct yourselves with wisdom toward outsiders, making the most of the opportunity.
6 Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned, as it were, with salt, so that you may know how you should respond to each person.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

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News Item7/27/11 8:05 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
"jim lincoln" said: "Raise...hands with...talisman...? Ridiculous!"

Right! That's What Those Who Raise NASBs In Their Hands (Or Hearts) Do; As,--Pseudo-Fundamentalist, Apostate, Heretic, GOD-Cursed & Damned--Ala 1 JN 5:7 & REV 22:18-19 Of THE+HISTORIC+AUTHORIZED+ENGLISH+BIBLE--"jim lincoln" Does !

GOD SAYS:

"LIFT UP YOUR HANDS IN THE SANCTUARY, AND BLESS THE LORD." PS 134:2

"AND SAY UNTO THEM, THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD; IN THE DAY WHEN I CHOSE ISRAEL, AND LIFTED UP MINE HAND UNTO THE SEED OF THE HOUSE OF JACOB, AND MADE MYSELF KNOWN UNTO THEM IN THE LAND OF EGYPT, WHEN I LIFTED UP MINE HAND UNTO THEM, SAYING, I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD;" EZ 20:5

"AND YE SHALL KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD, WHEN I SHALL BRING YOU INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL, INTO THE COUNTRY FOR THE WHICH I LIFTED UP MINE HAND TO GIVE IT TO YOUR FATHERS." EZ 20:42

"AND YE SHALL INHERIT IT, ONE AS WELL AS ANOTHER: CONCERNING THE WHICH I LIFTED UP MINE HAND TO GIVE IT UNTO YOUR FATHERS: AND THIS LAND SHALL FALL UNTO YOU FOR INHERITANCE." EZ 47:14

"AND MOSES SAID...I WILL SPREAD ABROAD MY HANDS UNTO THE LORD...
AND MOSES...SPREAD ABROAD HIS HANDS UNTO THE LORD..." EX 9:29-33

"BUT MOSES HANDS...WERE STEADY UNTIL THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN." EX 17:12

"WAVE THEM FOR A WAVE OFFERING BEFORE THE LORD." EX 29:24c

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News Item7/26/11 3:00 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Raise your hands with a talisman in it? Ridiculous!
W.B. Riley wrote:
Is the King James version absolutely inerrant? On this point we are inclined to think that, even unto comparatively recent years, such a theory has been entertained. The result, of course, is to make a sort of fetish of the book. That is why, in many a family, it is kept on the center-table and seldom used. They do not want to soil its sacredness….
Instead of of behaving in a charismatic manner, which apparently Mr. Schaap does, e.g., [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/schaap/fbcprosd.htm]]]Jack Schaap--Teaches Prosperity Doctrine![/URL]. The Bible is to be read and studied seriously as is done at, [URL=http://cfc-church.net/]]]Christian Fellowship Church[/URL]

By the way, I forgot to mentioned to another person, that Gil Rugh, does have a booklet out, [URL=http://www.ihcc.org/resources/booklets/the-church-gods-program-for-ministry]]]The Church: God's Program for Ministry[/URL] (and, no, he doesn't name, names) which has an good section on the parachurch movement which is pertinent to this article.

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News Item7/25/11 5:38 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
**Raising Hands &-Or Bibles In Worship Has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS ARTICLE & THE SURVIVAL OF TRUE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED BIBLE CHRISTIANITY:

THE GOD OF THE HISTORIC+AUTHORIZED+ENGLISH+HOLY+BIBLE (KING JAMES BIBLE) SAYS:

"LIFT UP YOUR HANDS IN THE SANCTUARY, AND BLESS THE LORD." PSALM 134:2

"AND SAY UNTO THEM, THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD; IN THE DAY WHEN I CHOSE ISRAEL, AND LIFTED UP MINE HAND UNTO THE SEED OF THE HOUSE OF JACOB, AND MADE MYSELF KNOWN UNTO THEM IN THE LAND OF EGYPT, WHEN I LIFTED UP MINE HAND UNTO THEM, SAYING, I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD;" EZEKIEL 20:5

"AND YE SHALL KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD, WHEN I SHALL BRING YOU INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL, INTO THE COUNTRY FOR THE WHICH I LIFTED UP MINE HAND TO GIVE IT TO YOUR FATHERS." EZEKIEL 20:42

"AND YE SHALL INHERIT IT, ONE AS WELL AS ANOTHER: CONCERNING THE WHICH I LIFTED UP MINE HAND TO GIVE IT UNTO YOUR FATHERS: AND THIS LAND SHALL FALL UNTO YOU FOR INHERITANCE." EZEKIEL 47:14

"AND MOSES SAID...I WILL SPREAD ABROAD MY HANDS UNTO THE LORD...
AND MOSES...SPREAD ABROAD HIS HANDS UNTO THE LORD..." EXODUS 9:29-33

BUT MOSES HANDS WERE HEAVY...AND AARON AND HUR STAYED UP HIS HANDS...AND HIS HANDS WERE STEADY UNTIL THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN. EXODUS 17:12

"WAVE THEM FOR A WAVE OFFERING BEFORE THE LORD" EXODUS 29:24c

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News Item7/25/11 2:53 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Yes, even a more direct question what does raising Bibles in a worship service even have to do with Christianity? Unfortunately, it got around to this point of discussion when discussion drifted away from [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/ccc/ccc.htm]]]Campus Crusade for Christ (Crusade for Who?)[/URL] and [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/mcdowell/general.htm]]]Josh McDowell--General Teachings/Activities[/URL], and sometimes the question is what does this group and person have to do with Christianity? I think those questions would be pertinent to the article.
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News Item7/25/11 7:17 AM
JR | UNITED States of America  Find all comments by JR
Question: What does raising Bibles in worship have to do with this article?

I'm just a little confused.
I highly suggest that (at least) Mr. Lincoln and Mr. Street-Preacher acquire the other's email address. That way the "Comments" of almost *every* article won't be compromised with irrelevant discussion.

I don't have any problem with the discussions, I just plead that they be "taken outside," to a more appropriate place.
At the least, I beg that you two adhere to the original purpose of the "Comments," and keep the discussion, as much as possible, centered on the news articles that are immediately imminent.

Thank you both for your consideration of my suggestion!

In the infinite love of Christ,
JR

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