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Choice News TUESDAY, MAY 24, 2011  |  50 comments  |  5 commentaries
Harold Camping says May 21, 2011 was ‘invisible judgment day,’ world will end October 21, 2011
Judgment Day on May 21 did come, an unapologetic doomsday preacher Harold Camping said Monday.

"On May 21, this last weekend, this is where the spiritual aspect of it really comes through. God again brought judgment on the world. We didn’t see any difference but God brought Judgment Day to bear upon the whole world. The whole world is under Judgment Day and it will continue right up until Oct. 21, 2011 and by that time the whole world will be destroyed," he proclaimed.

May 21 was a spiritual coming, he insisted. ...


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News Item6/2/11 11:03 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Cazares wrote:
To John From UK....
I was Crucified, I Died, I WaS Buried, I Was Quickened, I Was Raised and John From UK...I Am Seated With Him In The Heavenlies....
Christ said," Thou HIPOCRITES!"
but hey what can I say, in Him....I AM....
Your point being.....??
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News Item6/2/11 2:16 AM
Cazares | Houston  Contact via emailFind all comments by Cazares
To John From UK....

I was Crucified, I Died, I WaS Buried, I Was Quickened, I Was Raised and John From UK...I Am Seated With Him In The Heavenlies....

Christ said," Thou HIPOCRITES!"

but hey what can I say, in Him....I AM....

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News Item5/31/11 6:14 PM
old caravaner  Find all comments by old caravaner
Harold revealing his true self?

[URL=http://chrisforliberty.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/false_prophet.jpg]]]Yes![/URL]

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News Item5/30/11 2:17 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Cazares wrote:
To Micahel.....
Well, I guess I should stop preaching to satanists, hindus, mormons, islamist....
Cazares,

Are you serious? Are you actually preaching to these folks? Or simply trying to make a point?

You see, I DO actually preach the gospel to these folks, whenever the Lord gives opportunity. And why do I do that? You said it in your own post:

And he (Jesus) said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:15-16 KJV

However, I would counsel you to ensure your own conversion first. How can you bring others to FAITH, that they might be saved BY FAITH ALONE, if you yourself have so many doubts about the salvation doctrine of JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE?

Do you yet see that you need the IMPUTED righteousness of Jesus Christ in order to enter heaven? And that you need to have a transference of your sins to Christ Crucified, in order to be forgiven and declared righteous in God's sight? And that these blessings are appropriated by faith?

Do not procrastinate, but seek the Lord while he may be found. Like, tonight.

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News Item5/30/11 1:56 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Sounds like an unchristian pentecostal thinking Cezares, [URL=http://www.ondoctrine.com/2mac0077.htm]]]Proper Biblical Interpretation[/URL]. If whatever you think or say can't be tested Biblically it's worthless.
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News Item5/29/11 9:59 PM
Cazares | Houston  Contact via emailFind all comments by Cazares
pupalpupil wrote:
....so why not answer John's question: Has he revealed to you yet that you are in error to seek the "baptism with the Spirit"? Nowhere in scripture is this commanded. What is commanded is that all men repent and believe the gospel.
Why not prove from SCRIPTURE your convictions
[QUOTE]PupalPupil,

How can I answer a question with a lie...read comment I left CV asking the same question.

....I understand and no I am not trying to avoid John's questions. Tell me, why do I need to answer a question as, "Has he revealed to you yet that you are in error to seek the "baptism with the Spirit"?

Do you really think that I need to answer after within me, Christ lives, I have the mind of Christ, I can't do all things through Christ. Christ is my vindicator. He is my all in all. How can I lie about,"Has he revealed to you yet that you are in error to seek the "baptism with the Spirit"? How? It is is not "baptism with the spirit" it is "the baptism of the Holy Spirit." I stand strong in my words and if I am in error, I do hope God corrects me, because if it is not of God, it will not last.

Christ said, "First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you will see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

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News Item5/29/11 7:04 PM
pupalpupil  Find all comments by pupalpupil
Cazares wrote:
"Never be involved in Blogs, Or Chats about the Word of God, they will rebuke you and trash you with the Word itself..." so True, but I didn't listen to his words. Now I know why.
The same is a conditioned response by most cult members whose authority is not Holy Scripture but the doctrines and commandments of men e.g. Russelites (J.W.'s) will not usually be involved with true Christians in blogs etc where they have to turn up Holy Scripture and think outside the watchtower cocoon. They are told by their authoritarian Watchtower Society not to become involved and not to question their indoctrinisation.

The Christian has the Bible as his soul/sole authority so why not answer John's question: Has he revealed to you yet that you are in error to seek the "baptism with the Spirit"? Nowhere in scripture is this commanded. What is commanded is that all men repent and believe the gospel.

Why not prove from SCRIPTURE your convictions

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News Item5/29/11 6:13 PM
Cazares | Houston  Contact via emailFind all comments by Cazares
Mike wrote:
One thing for sure God still used him to wake us up because we need to wake up
Mike, watch what you say on here, SA comments will come to you as if you are covering for a false prophet...I got rebuked several times..God can even use a donkey to tell what is to come. So true MIKE, God can even us Camping as an EYE Opener, but many don't see that. They have even told me that I need to ask God for His spirit to be baptized in the Spirit? How is that, when I am already preaching the Gospel and speaking in tongues...Not unless the devil can do that? A Mentor Pastor told me once, "Never be involved in Blogs, Or Chats about the Word of God, they will rebuke you and trash you with the Word itself..." so True, but I didn't listen to his words. Now I know why.
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News Item5/28/11 10:19 PM
Mike  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mike
One thing for sure God still used him to wake us up because we need to wake up
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News Item5/28/11 2:58 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Oh, no! not Arnie!!! The following by the way applies to him, [URL=http://www.theology.edu/journal/volume4/BritishIsraelism.htm]]]British Israelism: A Mirage[/URL] and to [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/apologetics/AP4W0500.pdf]]]Armstrongism[/URL].

I don't know how long this article will be up, but while it is, it's good to read -- [URL=http://www.howcultswork.com/]]]Harold Camping says the World is About to End - Epic Fail[/URL]. Some of you may need a [URL=http://www.ihcc.org/resources/booklets/prophecy-update]]]Prophecy Update[/URL].

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News Item5/26/11 9:06 PM
Ellen G. Whitewashed  Find all comments by Ellen G. Whitewashed
I think Arnold Murray on the Shepard's Chapel believes that it was the Kenites that were taken.
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News Item5/26/11 8:30 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
EP wrote:
Sir,
I don't have much time just now, but specifically which of the 5 points of the doctrines of grace, do you oppose?
What is IMHO?
EP
IMHO is 'in my humble opinion'

As to the 5 points (which I likewise don't have time to get into - feel free to email me) I would have to take it from a different tack (sp?) as it is what some "Calvinists" do with them that is often offensive.

Cazares
If a Satanist etc. get save they won't be a Satanist etc. any longer. Yes, by all means preach the truth to them but don't imagine any unrepentant Satanist etc. is going to preach the gospel, except of course in jest, mocking or ridicule.

Cazares, I know quite personally God can change a wretched reprobate of a sinner, who hated Christians and would have fed them to lions and bring him to salvation to where he joyful preaches the faith he once hated. Thank you very much

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News Item5/26/11 9:49 AM
Cazares | Houston  Contact via emailFind all comments by Cazares
To Micahel.....

Well, I guess I should stop preaching to satanists, hindus, mormons, islamists, and become self righteous as all have done. Just walk as if I never sin....forget that, I'd rather preach even to what you call worst of people because of what you are telling me, it seems that you never preach to all these groups of people. One day you will see the Gospel preached as it ought. Christ died for all even the islamists, satanics, mormons, hindus, vatolics, Christ even died for me as me. Guess what? I am not going contrary to the word of God.....ddn't Christ gave us the commission to preach the gospel to every creature? To go to the ends of all the world? What? Is your faith not strong enough to believe and trust God that one of the named groups there will be a ratical change? I believe that the Holy Spirit is stronger than the spirit they walk upon. Christ casted spirits out that were caled legions and you are telling me that it can't be done? I believe Christ can do all things EVEN BRING A: SATANIST, MORMON,
HINDU, MUSLIM, FLESHLY PASTOR, or LOST INDIVIDUAL
TO REPENTANCE?

I Guess I need to quit preaching to these groups and just become self righteous and say, "there is nothing that can be done to these people to be saved,they will go to hell."

I'm Sorry, BUT

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News Item5/26/11 6:29 AM
EP  Find all comments by EP
Michael Hranek wrote:
EP
While I am not a Calvinist and we might use somewhat different terms still you have given a very good discription of conversion.
IMHO things that are excellent in fervently praying and interceding His will be done.
Sir,

I don't have much time just now, but specifically which of the 5 points of the doctrines of grace, do you oppose?

What is IMHO?

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News Item5/26/11 5:47 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
EP wrote:
When the Triune God condescends to pity frail children of dust, or effectually call his elect; He begins by pressing the offense of their sin and their present misery, due to it. We are by fallen nature so dull to truth, that God many times makes the misery, so miserable that He has our undivided attention. In so afflicting the the mind and upsetting the affections, the poor sinner will seek God in his Word of Truth whether read or preached and the Holy Spirit will enlighten his mind in the knowledge of Christ. The poor begging petitioner for mercy, 'Behold'ing his desperate need, and the Lamb of God, his substitute, as taking his rightful place under God's due wrath for sin, then understands Christ to be the only true lover of his never dying soul, while the Holy Spirit, is at the same time renewing his will, and enabling him to embrace Jesus Christ freely offered to him in the gospel.
EP
While I am not a Calvinist and we might use somewhat different terms still you have given a very good discription of conversion.

IMHO things that are excellent in fervently praying and interceding His will be done.

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News Item5/26/11 5:38 AM
EP  Find all comments by EP
When the Triune God condescends to pity frail children of dust, or effectually call his elect; He begins by pressing the offense of their sin and their present misery, due to it. We are by fallen nature so dull to truth, that God many times makes the misery, so miserable that He has our undivided attention. In so afflicting the the mind and upsetting the affections, the poor sinner will seek God in his Word of Truth whether read or preached and the Holy Spirit will enlighten his mind in the knowledge of Christ. The poor begging petitioner for mercy, 'Behold'ing his desperate need, and the Lamb of God, his substitute, as taking his rightful place under God's due wrath for sin, then understands Christ to be the only true lover of his never dying soul, while the Holy Spirit, is at the same time renewing his will, and enabling him to embrace Jesus Christ freely offered to him in the gospel.

Every man's 'experience' will differ related to his previous knowledge base. The work of God will be impressed in time on any poor saved sinner that God has predestinated, called, justified, and glorified. Romans 8:30

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News Item5/26/11 4:51 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Cazares wrote:
To CV......

One day you will see a hindu, muslim, atheist, satanic worshipper preaching the gospel like it should be preached. Not like we see in America today. One day, you will see.

Cazares
Neighbor you've got a serious problem. You are going against the Word of God. Want to make a guess who is going to be right?

Jesus told us no bad tree brings forth good fruit, Islam, Hinduism, MORMONISM, Satanism, Atheism are all "bad trees" they do not know Christ and in the case of the MORMONS have a very false Christ (hint - spirit brother of Lucifer).

And "spirit" that is leading you to believe contrary to the Word of God isn't in no way The Holy Spirit (hint - The Holy Spirit moved men to write out each and every word of Scripture, God saying what He means and meaning what He says).

Somewhere you missed it and need to READ THE BOOK BETTER (2 Tim 2:15) as it doesn't matter what we think or fantasize but "What does God say!"

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News Item5/26/11 1:59 AM
Cazares | Houston  Contact via emailFind all comments by Cazares
To CV......

That's the problem with christianity today. There is no Faith in Hindus,Muslims, Atheist, Satanic Worshippers....etc, etc...in them being Christ followers. One day you will see a hindu, muslim, atheist, satanic worshipper preaching the gospel like it should be preached. Not like we see in America today. One day, you will see.

Oh by the way CV..666, that is the number of man. Man was created on the 6th day. Eschatology you mean? Oooooh, you scare me.....funny

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News Item5/25/11 4:11 PM
David1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by David1960
One thing is for sure,HC wasn't the first and probably won't be the last to mislead others.

14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Jer.14,14

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News Item5/25/11 2:01 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Quite right, CV. If they are Christian what are they doing in a non-Christian organization? e.g. [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/roman-catholicism/RC0200W2.htm]]]Come out of the Catholic Church[/URL].

Mr. Camping is a power unto himself, he has no board of elders to answer to. Unfortunately, many of his listeners want their ears tickled, they don't hold him to account to be truthful. [URL=http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=1353250]]]Radio host says Rapture actually coming in October[/URL]. This is just another gimmick for Mr. Camping to make money.

2 Corinthians 11
3 But I am afraid, lest as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds should be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.
4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

But here, Paul was talking about an actual church, not a Pass The Loot organization, q.v., [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker]]]Jim Bakker[/URL].

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