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Choice News THURSDAY, MAY 19, 2011  |  89 comments  |  6 commentaries
Preacher claiming Rapture May 21 'holds on to his stuff'

Does the Judgment Day of God begin this Saturday, May 21, with Jesus Christ returning to Earth to "rapture" his true believers away to heaven?

A Christian broadcaster says "the Bible guarantees it," but so far he's given no indication he's getting rid of his earthly possessions including his radio network, as other Christians label him a false prophet with a dangerous teaching.

Harold Camping, 89, of Oakland, Calif.-based Family Radio is standing firm in his claim that mankind has run out of time and the Creator of the universe is arriving this Saturday, with earthquakes around the globe heralding the event. ...


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News Item5/23/11 8:17 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
STILL: THE WRITTEN DOCUMENTED FACT IS THAT "Street-Preacher" NEVER Said-Wrote-Recorded The LIE Of LIAR "you":

"but of that day and hour only i the infallible tlc knoweth but, not the angels of heaven,".

However, THE WRITTEN & RECORDED DOCUMENTED FACT IS THAT "me" DID INDEED WRITE: "...rot..." !

And This FACT Will Stand Up In ANY Court Of Law ANYWHERE IN
THE WORLD !

ESPECIALLY THE FACTS STATED BY "Street-Preacher":

"WE WHO KEEP THE FAITH OF THE ONE-&-ONLY-HOLY-TRIUNE-GOD, "HOLY-TRINITY" &-OR "HOLY-TRIAD" OF 1 JOHN 5:7--"FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN; THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: AND THESE THREE ARE ONE."--& BELIEVE IN THE PRE-TRIBULATION-MILLENIAL RAPTURE HAVE:

#1.AUTHORIZED-BIBLICAL PRECEDENT:

(See Rev.4:1, I Thess.4:16-17, Etc.)

#2."APOSTOLIC" HISTORIC DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE:

"FOR ALL THE SAINTS AND ELECT OF GOD ARE GATHERED, PRIOR TO THE TRIBULATION THAT IS TO COME, AND ARE TAKEN TO THE LORD LEST THEY SEE THE CONFUSION THAT IS TO COME UPON THE WORLD BECAUSE OF OUR SINS."--EPHREM 2;9 (PENNED: 300s AD)...

"BUT OF THAT DAY AND HOUR KNOWETH NO MAN (NOT HAROLD CAMPING; NOT EVEN "you" OR "me")...BUT MY FATHER ONLY."--JESUS [CHRIST: Mt.24:36 & Mk.13:32] " !

*EVIL DEVILS & RELIGIOUS "SPIRITS" OF "JESUIT(IC)S" HATE THE TRUTH !

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News Item5/23/11 4:59 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
them wrote:
...[ I ]...w(as) upset because...[ I ]...took your post and reprinted something that you never said. I.E. puting words in your mouth...?

...[ if ] the moderators [ & their system isn't broke ]...[ don't ] fix it...in
[ any ] such a way. [ ! ]

FIRST Of ALL, Anything & EVERYTHING That I (TLC) Say (Write) That You (i.e. "them", "you", "me", etc.) "wrote" Is TRUELY & VERILY--In Substance & To The Letter--WHAT You (i.e. "them", "you", "me", etc.) ACTUALLY, GENUINELY, REALLY, TRUELY & LITERALLY "WROTE" !

As I Said (Wrote) Afore: You Can Take It To ANY Court ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD & IT WILL STAND UP ON THE SUBSTANCE(S) & LETTER(S) OF THEIR OWN MERIT !

But, ANYTHING & EVERYTHING That "you" Said (Wrote) That "Street-Preacher" Supposedly Said (&-Or Supposedly Wrote)--That; "but of that day and hour only i the infallible tlc knoweth but, not the angels of heaven,": Is A TOTAL & COMPLETE FABRICATION & LIE (Posted On This Sermonaudio Thread By The Poster/Commenter Known As "you")--

THAT WOULD NEVER STAND UP OR HAVE ONE IOTA OF MERIT IN ANY COURT ANWHERE IN THIS WORLD !

If The Moderator(s) &-Or Owner(s) Of Sermonaudio.com Choose To Change Their SYSTEM By Which Comments Are Posted On "Sermonaudio": It's Their PREROGATIVE & RIGHT UNDER LAW !

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News Item5/23/11 4:11 PM
Them  Find all comments by Them
TLC wrote:
And THE WRITTEN DOCUMENTED FACT IS THAT "Street-Preacher" NEVER Said-Wrote-Recorded The LIE Of LIAR "you": "but of that day and hour only i the infallible tlc knoweth but, not the angels of heaven,".
Let's see if we have this right Tony. You were upset because someone took your post and reprinted something that you never said. I.E. puting words in your mouth. Yet you did the same thing to at least two other people. Is that about right?

Maybee we can thalk to the moderators and see if they can fix it where no one's post can be altered in such a way.

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News Item5/23/11 12:48 PM
EP  Find all comments by EP
Compare 1 Cor. 15 the whole chapter prayerfully to 2 Peter 3 Note verses these verses recorded by Peter "But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment(separation) and perdition (utter destruction or destroying in hell)of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Read on.
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News Item5/23/11 11:47 AM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
you wrote:
...funny (but)...you is...[Ph]ony...!!!
And THE WRITTEN DOCUMENTED FACT IS THAT "Street-Preacher" NEVER Said-Wrote-Recorded The LIE Of LIAR "you": "but of that day and hour only i the infallible tlc knoweth but, not the angels of heaven,".

However, THE WRITTEN & RECORDED DOCUMENTED FACT IS THAT "me" DID INDEED WRITE: "...rot..." !

And This FACT Will Stand Up In ANY Court Of Law ANYWHERE IN
THE WORLD !

ESPECIALLY THE FACTS STATED BY "Street-Preacher":

"WE WHO KEEP THE FAITH OF THE ONE-&-ONLY-HOLY-TRIUNE-GOD, "HOLY-TRINITY" &-OR "HOLY-TRIAD" OF 1 JOHN 5:7--"FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN; THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: AND THESE THREE ARE ONE."--& BELIEVE IN THE PRE-TRIBULATION-MILLENIAL RAPTURE HAVE:

#1.AUTHORIZED-BIBLICAL PRECEDENT:

(See Rev.4:1, I Thess.4:16-17, Etc.)

#2."APOSTOLIC" HISTORIC DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE:

"FOR ALL THE SAINTS AND ELECT OF GOD ARE GATHERED, PRIOR TO THE TRIBULATION THAT IS TO COME, AND ARE TAKEN TO THE LORD LEST THEY SEE THE CONFUSION THAT IS TO COME UPON THE WORLD BECAUSE OF OUR SINS."--EPHREM 2;9 (PENNED: 300s AD)...

"BUT OF THAT DAY AND HOUR KNOWETH NO MAN (NOT HAROLD CAMPING; NOT EVEN "you" OR "me")...BUT MY FATHER ONLY."--JESUS [CHRIST: Mt.24:36 & Mk.13:32] " !

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News Item5/22/11 8:26 PM
You  Find all comments by You
Street-Preacher wrote:
"BUT OF THAT DAY AND HOUR Only I the INFALLIBLE TLC KNOWETH but, NOT THE ANGELS OF HEAVEN,
Not so funny when someone does it to you is it Tony?
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News Item5/22/11 6:51 PM
Me  Find all comments by Me
Me wrote:
Me Wrote
ME Wrote
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News Item5/22/11 5:42 PM
Me  Find all comments by Me
Me Wrote
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News Item5/22/11 5:41 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
WE WHO KEEP THE FAITH OF THE ONE-&-ONLY-HOLY-TRIUNE-GOD, "HOLY-TRINITY" &-OR "HOLY-TRIAD" OF I JOHN 5:7--"FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD ON HEAVEN; THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: AND THESE THREE ARE ONE."-- & BELIEVE IN
THE PRE-TRIBULATION-MILLENIAL RAPTURE HAVE;

#1.AUTHORIZED-BIBLICAL PRECEDENT:

"FOR THE LORD HIMSELF SHALL DESCEND FROM HEAVEN WITH A SHOUT ("COME UP HITHER"--SEE REV. ), WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, AND WITH THE TRUMP(ET) OF GOD: AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE FIRST:

THEN WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN SHALL BE CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS, TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR: AND SO SHALL WE EVER BE WITH
THE LORD."--1 THESSALONIANS 4:16-17

#2."APOSTOLIC" HISTORIC DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE:

"FOR ALL THE SAINTS AND ELECT OF GOD ARE GATHERED, PRIOR TO THE TRIBULATION...TO COME, AND ARE TAKEN TO THE LORD LEST THEY SEE THE CONFUSION TO COME...BECAUSE OF OUR SINS."--ST. EPHREM 2;9 [WRITTEN: 300s AD]

**NOWHERE IN GOD'S-HOLY-BIBLE, THE WRITINGS OF CHRIST'S "APOSTLES", NOR IN THE WRITINGS OF THE ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN "APOSTLES-APOLOGISTS-AUTHORS-WRITERS" DOES IT STATE THE "TIME &-OR DAY" WHEN:

"THE LORD JESUS CHRIST...Shall Judge THE QUICK And THE DEAD At HIS APPEARING (@THE RAPTURE) And HIS KINGDOM (@ARMAGEDDON);" 2 TIMOTHY 4:1

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News Item5/22/11 5:10 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
factspost wrote:
Michael
Why do you use "eminent"??
From Dictionary.
em·i·nent:-
1. high in station, rank, or repute; prominent; distinguished:
2. conspicuous, signal, or noteworthy:
3. lofty; high:
Do you mean
"imminent"
1. likely to occur at any moment; impending:
2. projecting or leaning forward; overhanging.
Thanks
Imminent. I am not good a spelling.
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News Item5/22/11 5:00 PM
factspost  Find all comments by factspost
Michael Hranek wrote:
myself and others who hold to the eminent return of Christ
Michael
Why do you use "eminent"??

From Dictionary.
em·i·nent:-
1. high in station, rank, or repute; prominent; distinguished:
2. conspicuous, signal, or noteworthy:
3. lofty; high:

Do you mean
"imminent"
1. likely to occur at any moment; impending:
2. projecting or leaning forward; overhanging.

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News Item5/22/11 4:50 PM
Dopey  Find all comments by Dopey
I recall watching a movie called
"River of No Return"
with Robert Mitchum and Marilyn Monroe.

God has a River of No Return also:

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned
who believed not the truth,
but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2 Thessalonians 2:11)

God's River of No Return
has been flowing since Adam, Eve,
Abel, and Cain and it still is.

If anyone gets placed in that River
by God they will in fact be damned,
not maybe, perhaps, or could be.

God's invitation today is

"... Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved,
and thy house." (Acts 16:3)

and

"For whosoever shall call upon
the name of the Lord
shall be saved." (Romans 10:13)

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News Item5/22/11 3:03 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
factspost wrote:
Michael;
The modern unBiblical Dispy Premill Rapture commenced in the year 1830 with a woman who had so called "visions" and was "biblicised" by Darby and Scofield.
Please try this Michael
The Premill Deception
notrealfacts
Oops! Did I miss the 1830 rapture???

Anyway, no thank you, since you couldn't even get it right that Jim Lincoln, myself and others who hold to the eminent return of Christ interpretation of Scriptue are way different from the date setting Harold Camping what in the world would make you imagine I would want to listen to your recommended "teaching"?

Oh, btw, be careful you don't pull a "camping" yourself and claim people just have to be in your particular theological camp (unintended pun) to be saved.

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News Item5/22/11 3:02 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No factpost, that is nonsense, first of course is, The Unscriptural Theologies Of Amillennialism And Postmillennialism, but of course Gil Rugh explained quite well about Dispensationalism in a --short-- sermon, Dispensations. If you need reading material try, A Short History Of Dispensationalism. It is that and won't take you long to read. Oh, and if you're a Calvinist you might read John MacArthur's comments starting with, Why Every Calvinist Should Be a Premillennialist, Part 1.
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News Item5/22/11 2:34 PM
factspost  Find all comments by factspost
Michael Hranek wrote:
you weren't posting against the fallacies of an 1830 visionary
Michael;
The modern unBiblical Dispy Premill Rapture commenced in the year 1830 with a woman who had so called "visions" and was "biblicised" by Darby and Scofield.

Please try this Michael
The Premill Deception

=====

Dopey wrote:
You, in effect, call God's word vague
No I didn't!
You seem to think by digging out Bible verses which call me names, that you will change my mind to accept the fallacies of Premill Rapture. They won't. And you shouldn't be using the Word of God in that sinful way.

=====

Mike wrote:
Error teaching truth? How is that working for you?
Mike
You have misquoted me.
I said, - "we Christians must teach the truth and seek to correct error."

1John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

75

News Item5/22/11 2:01 PM
Dopey  Find all comments by Dopey
Jessica Dawson wrote:
I started listening to Christian radio while I was living common law, with my now husband at 17 years of age. Our son was a toddler at the time. We were married when I was 18
Jessica,

The list of similarities between your life and mine is incredible. I have already pointed out two similarities in different comments to you. I also started listening to Christian radio when I was doing, how shall I put it, things I shouldn't have done. I then listened to various men talk on religious themes on the Christian radio I listened to. Several of those men seemed to say things that made sense to me and I like and respect them.

Two of the men in particular caught my ear and I found myself listening to them more than the rest.

Oliver Greene, a Baptist, was one of the men and the other was J. Vernon McGee a Presbyterian. Those two men became my two favorites.

Welcome to WFAX-AM 1220 is my favorite internet Christian radio station because I can get there, guess who,
you guessed it,

Oliver Greene and J. Vernon McGee

P.S.
I sure have a lot of love and respect for certain Baptists and Presbyterians.

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News Item5/22/11 10:28 AM
EP  Find all comments by EP
For Pastors and Teachers of God's calling; and their brethren's (fellow elders) ordination 1 Tim. 4:14 and for praying saints Ephes.6:18-19:

Acts 20:28-30 "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them."

73

News Item5/22/11 9:22 AM
Mike  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mike
Beware of false Prophets that comes in sheep clothing but really Wolves plus after the United states turn there back onIsrael also turn there back on God so the judgment of the United States will be judge like Sodom.
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News Item5/22/11 5:11 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Jessica Dawson wrote:
When I was a child, I was ill a lot and I used to hold one arm up while I was in bed, so Jesus could hold my hand.
Happy Birthday, Jessica

I love your story of a little girl holding up her hand so Jesus could hold it. He has certain given you a precious growing faith.

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News Item5/21/11 9:57 PM
Elder Frank Thomas | Modesto, Ca  Contact via emailFind all comments by Elder Frank Thomas
Paul was right-Harold Camping was wrong- World without end-AMEN-EPH. 3:21
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