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FRONT PAGE  |  11/22/2017
WEDNESDAY, MAY 4, 2011  |  18 comments
Ownership of TV Sets Falls in U.S
For the first time in 20 years, the number of homes in the United States with television sets has dropped.

The Nielsen Company, which takes TV set ownership into account when it produces ratings, will tell television networks and advertisers on Tuesday that 96.7 percent of American households now own sets, down from 98.9 percent previously.

There are two reasons for the decline, according to Nielsen. One is poverty: some low-income households no longer own TV sets, most likely because they cannot afford new digital sets and antennas. ...


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News Item6/12/11 4:51 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
I watch a lot of television, the good and wholesome television programs such as Mister Ed, The Patty Duke Show, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, Fox News Channel programming, etc.
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News Item6/12/11 3:57 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank Dombrosky wrote:
I seldom watch TV. Not only has much of it become so ungodly, the vast majority of the programs are just plain STUPID!
The only thing I really enjoy is my collection of old classic dvd movies. Other than that, I'll sometimes watch a good documentary or sports.
The biggest danger is the manner in which TV influences our young people. I think many of their problems can be directly linked to the television set.
Spot on Frank. The TV is the biggest mentor in the world today, influencing all that watch it on a daily basis. It is subtily changing thoughts and attitudes, creating a violent and insensitive generation who are rapidly becoming evolutionary, atheistic and uncaring. And we believers are not immune from its ability to cause degeneration. Line upon line, precept upon precept, can be applied to negative effects as well as positive.
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News Item6/12/11 1:11 AM
Frank Dombrosky | Texas  Find all comments by Frank Dombrosky
I seldom watch TV. Not only has much of it become so ungodly, the vast majority of the programs are just plain STUPID!

The only thing I really enjoy is my collection of old classic dvd movies. Other than that, I'll sometimes watch a good documentary or sports.

The biggest danger is the manner in which TV influences our young people. I think many of their problems can be directly linked to the television set.

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News Item6/11/11 11:18 PM
Contrarian  Find all comments by Contrarian
New York Times wrote:
One is poverty: some ... cannot afford new digital sets and antennas...

And some in rural areas could not receive digital signals as effectively as analog signals for technical reasons.

TV ownership may be decreasing - new antennas is not the cause.
More convincing is this report:-

Over-the-air only TV homes increase 10% to 46 million

Joseph O'Halloran ©RapidTVNews | 08-06-2011

Perhaps worried US, pay-TV suppliers should not just be looking at OTT but also OTA the number of those relying solely on over the air services has risen sharply over the last twelve months.

According to data from Knowledge Networks, as part of its The 2011 Ownership Survey and Trend Report, itself a segment of The Home Technology Monitor, the number of Americans now relying exclusively on over-the-air (OTA) television broadcasting in their home increased to 45.6 million, up from 42 million just a year ago.

Read more: Over-the-air only TV homes increase 10% to 46 million | News | Rapid TV News
http://www.rapidtvnews.com/index.php/2011060812695/us-over-the-air-only-tv-homes-increases-10-to-46-million.html

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News Item5/5/11 3:18 PM
Contrarian  Find all comments by Contrarian
John UK wrote:
My apologies bro. There is always new things to learn,
No apologies needed John, fully understandable that Britons think VHF TV to be myth and legend. In one way the US is catching up with the 1960's in partially moving over to UHF.

It is worth a rye smile that in the US today people buy big 50" 1080 line TV's and then watch new digital broadcasts that use "pre-war era" (irony intended) 1941 480 line pictures on them.

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News Item5/5/11 1:42 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Contrarian wrote:
John,
TV transmissions in the UK were VHF only until the launch of BBC2 on UHF in 1964. 405 line VHF transmissions were only finally switched off in 1985.
The US still uses both VHF and UHF for TV. Around here most of the big four networks chose to move from VHF to UHF at the same time as digital conversion.
VHF is going out of fashion but has not gone. They might have switched Rick's channels from VHF to UHF, in which case yes he would need a new antenna.
FWIW, I get internet from a cable company. No phone, no cable TV.
Proffet - Baird's mechanical television never caught on, it was too "Amish"
My apologies bro. There is always new things to learn, and I did not know that VHF incorporated such a wide range of frequencies, even used for TV.
As wiki has it:
"Band III is the name of a radio frequency range within the very high frequency part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Band III ranges from 174 to 230 MHz, and it is primarily used for radio and television broadcasting. It is also called high-band VHF, in contrast to Bands I and II."
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News Item5/5/11 12:54 PM
Contrarian  Find all comments by Contrarian
John,

TV transmissions in the UK were VHF only until the launch of BBC2 on UHF in 1964. 405 line VHF transmissions were only finally switched off in 1985.

The US still uses both VHF and UHF for TV. Around here most of the big four networks chose to move from VHF to UHF at the same time as digital conversion.

VHF is going out of fashion but has not gone. They might have switched Rick's channels from VHF to UHF, in which case yes he would need a new antenna.

FWIW, I get internet from a cable company. No phone, no cable TV.

Proffet - Baird's mechanical television never caught on, it was too "Amish"

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News Item5/5/11 3:49 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Contrarian wrote:
Alternatively, they may have switched the broadcasts from VHF to UHF (or even vice-versa) which might require a different antenna.
Not "might" but "would" require a different antenna. However, TV has never been broadcast on the VHF band.

As for reception, a program was still viewable or listenable on the old analogue, even if the signal kept fading. Not so with digital, which cracks up or disappears like a mobile phone which hasn't a perfect signal.

Contrarian wrote:
Same with phone landlines. Obsolete, not needed anymore.
In the UK the phone landline is the major provider of broadband internet, so hardly obsolete. Or has your country perfected the mobile broadband? I do not have a landline so am forced to use mobile, but it is not very fast, and sometimes unreliable.
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News Item5/4/11 11:15 PM
Contrarian  Find all comments by Contrarian
Rick wrote:
Sorry friend. We live in a rual area that even with a digital t.v and good antena, the slightest inclimte weather will cause tv's to blank out. There is one station that no on in the county has been able to get unless they have cable.
Rick,

Did you previously get good analog tv reception in your area? If so, you are being short-changed.

If reception has deteriorated this may be due to them reducing the power of the broadcasts (precisely because high quality digital signals can technically travel further on less power).
Alternatively, they may have switched the broadcasts from VHF to UHF (or even vice-versa) which might require a different antenna. Again, this no reflection on digital vs. analog tv.

The aptly named TVFool tool can tell you fairly accurately what you should be getting at your precise location.
http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29

I'm not rural - I get channels from four different cities. I can usually pick up high power channels from as far as 80-90 miles away with just an indoor antenna.
Most of the TV content is worth missing but at the technical level digital TV is far superior and cost to the consumer is not a significant factor.

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News Item5/4/11 6:24 PM
Dominic | Uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dominic
Jam 2:5 Hearken,  my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

Not being polluted by the world is a good thing such as government propaganda and evolution propaganda as not grewing up on tv it has made my imagination flourish
To me the decline of tv Is a good thing it would hopefully mean the flourishing of the gospel

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News Item5/4/11 3:27 PM
proffet  Find all comments by proffet
"For the first time in 20 years, the number of homes in the United States with television sets has dropped."

What does this say about John Logie Baird?

Will Thomas Alva Edison suffer likewise?

Will Alexander Graham Bell go the same way?

No tv - No light - No phone - The end is nigh.

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News Item5/4/11 3:05 PM
Rick  Find all comments by Rick
Contrarian wrote:
Garbage. Converter boxes can be purchased for just 30 bucks - even without Bush's socialist subsidy.
New 19" HDTV's can be had for as little as $130 on Amazon etc, as little as old Cathode Ray Tube sets used to cost.
Existing antennas work just as well for digital as for analog.
Technically, digital signals generally require LESS power to meet the same geographical distribution as analog signals.
Simple ignorance would be the reason a few lost their TV service in 2009. It is sad, but some simply have no friends and family to help them through the simple set up.
As the NYT notes, the main reason for decline is people switching to internet based services. Same with phone landlines. Obsolete, not needed anymore.
Sorry friend. We live in a rual area that even with a digital t.v and good antena, the slightest inclimte weather will cause tv's to blank out. There is one station that no on in the county has been able to get unless they have cable.
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News Item5/4/11 11:43 AM
NTV  Contact via emailFind all comments by NTV
Even before becoming a faithful Christian, viewed most TV -- ads especially -- as either anti-intellectual or false.

Reading is better.

Bible is best.

-No TV, Class of '85

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News Item5/4/11 11:15 AM
Contrarian  Find all comments by Contrarian
New York Times wrote:
One is poverty: some ... cannot afford new digital sets and antennas...

And some in rural areas could not receive digital signals as effectively as analog signals for technical reasons.

Garbage. Converter boxes can be purchased for just 30 bucks - even without Bush's socialist subsidy.
New 19" HDTV's can be had for as little as $130 on Amazon etc, as little as old Cathode Ray Tube sets used to cost.
Existing antennas work just as well for digital as for analog.
Technically, digital signals generally require LESS power to meet the same geographical distribution as analog signals.

Simple ignorance would be the reason a few lost their TV service in 2009. It is sad, but some simply have no friends and family to help them through the simple set up.

As the NYT notes, the main reason for decline is people switching to internet based services. Same with phone landlines. Obsolete, not needed anymore.

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News Item5/4/11 11:15 AM
jm  Find all comments by jm
In 1982 I heard a ? give instruction at my brother's CMA Church. I say ? because the denomination had real issues with this man's doctrine, yet they invited him to preach and the church split shortly there after.
He spoke from the text in Matthew 11:16-24. Although he pointed out many defections of the age worthy of consideration, he loudly warned of the audio visual attack on our households from the TV and Associates Industry. Some of us thought No? but only for a year or two at best and then out they went. But some how, some way, something always slipped back in. If men's hearts were not what they are and the church more godly and gov't more righteous it would be much safer for current events only.
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News Item5/4/11 9:02 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth,TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Lady_Virtue wrote:
...
In short, one of the best decisions God ever guided me to make!
Beautiful testimony! We gave up our televisions 5 years ago and have likewise been blessed.
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News Item5/4/11 8:12 AM
Lady_Virtue | OKC  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lady_Virtue
I gave up my television when the final digital switchover occurred back in June 2009. The Lord compelled me to do so, as TV watching was doing nothing but wasting my time, fostering a lack of discipline, and indoctrinating me with the vain philosophies of this sinful world.

In short, one of the best decisions God ever guided me to make!

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News Item5/4/11 5:46 AM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
"One is poverty: some low-income households no longer own TV sets, most likely because they cannot afford new digital sets and antennas."

I thought the new digital television from the loving federal government was going to be a good thing?

Now how are these people going to see Obama and know to vote for him one more time?

This is what socialism brings poverty and people like Obama.

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