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FRONT PAGE  |  12/11/2017
TUESDAY, JAN 18, 2011  |  24 comments
Lead thieves use Google Earth to target churches
Thieves in Britain are using Google Earth to target lead roofs on Church of England buildings to sell on the lucrative metals market, a Church spokesman said.

About 8,000 churches have made insurance claims for lead theft worth about 23 million pounds during the past three years, the Church's estate commissioner Tony Baldry said during a debate in Westminster Hall.

In many cases, churches have replaced their roofs only to be targeted again, in one case 14 times.

Many of the Church of England's 16,000 churches are "listed," which provides planning protection for buildings of historical value, and date back hundreds of years. ...


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News Item1/23/11 6:25 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Wayne wrote:
Did you get to that other place today, John?
Hey bro! Look! Posting at last!

Bethany?

And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head.
Mark 14:3 KJV

If Simon the leper was running the shop, I may just have made it, and taken some worshipful ointment for Jesus. But alas, I couldna face it today bro; so I've had a really peaceful and restful Lord's Day.

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News Item1/23/11 6:02 PM
Wayne  Find all comments by Wayne
Did you get to that other place today, John?
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News Item1/23/11 5:46 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Dr. Zoloft wrote:
I might be able to take him on as a new patient. My last patient with the SCREaming caps lock, has split of into at least six other personalities. Another one will most likley be totaly cure on May 22nd, so I'll see if my nurse, Miss Serotonin, can work him in. That is if he feels "Lead" to come in
Ha!

But you'll have to catch him first, and you know what slippery customers these Roman Catholics are. Still, I've more hope for him than the other "chappy" who seems to be splitting.

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News Item1/23/11 5:08 PM
Dr. Zoloft  Find all comments by Dr. Zoloft
John UK wrote:
Poor dab!
Doctor Zoloft?
I might be able to take him on as a new patient. My last patient with the SCREaming caps lock, has split of into at least six other personalities. Another one will most likley be totaly cure on May 22nd, so I'll see if my nurse, Miss Serotonin, can work him in. That is if he feels "Lead" to come in
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News Item1/23/11 1:03 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Presby wrote:
Don't know if it would help you John. But have you tried Spamhaus's "Blocklist Removal Centre"??
Blocklist Removal Centre
Thank you bro. There should be somewhere on that site to request removal, but I spent ages on it the other day and could not for the life of me see how to do it. But if anyone can remove the block, SpamHaus should be able. I don't want to continue after my 3 day free trial; it slows the system down a little, and costs about a hundred dollars a year, or cheaper if you pay for two or three years. Good software though, if you need it.
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News Item1/23/11 12:45 PM
Presby  Find all comments by Presby
John UK wrote:
My IP is blacklisted by SpamHaus....yuk!
Don't know if it would help you John. But have you tried Spamhaus's "Blocklist Removal Centre"??

Blocklist Removal Centre

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News Item1/23/11 12:20 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Haggis wrote:
John
Your back!
You hoary ole turnip.

Welcome home.
Merci mon ami, et M New York, merci.

Ich habe ein.......ach, better speak AV I suppose, nein, ich will speak vernacular.

I have a three day free trial of IP proxy address something or other, and this is allowing me to post at last. My IP is blacklisted by SpamHaus....yuk!

Ah weel, och aye, at least I know the problem now. Anyone know anyone at SpamHaus who can get them to set me free of criminal intent?

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News Item1/23/11 12:11 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
Poor dab!
Doctor Zoloft?
Is that you, bro John? Welcome home!
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News Item1/23/11 12:10 PM
Haggis  Find all comments by Haggis
John UK wrote:
Poor dab!
Doctor Zoloft?
John
Your back!
You hoary ole turnip.

Welcome home.
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News Item1/23/11 12:06 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
John Yurich USA wrote:
I am surprised that there are any Fundamentalist Protestants who think that the theft of lead from those Anglican Churches is wrong. Considering that you Fundamentalist Protestants have such a hatred for the Anglican Church I would have thought that you Fundamentalist Protestants would think that it is perfectly ok for theft of lead to take place at Anglican Churches.
Poor dab!

Doctor Zoloft?

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News Item1/23/11 6:18 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
John Yurich USA wrote:
I am surprised that there are any Fundamentalist Protestants who think that the theft of lead from those Anglican Churches is wrong. Considering that you Fundamentalist Protestants have such a hatred for the Anglican Church I would have thought that you Fundamentalist Protestants would think that it is perfectly ok for theft of lead to take place at Anglican Churches.
John Yurich
Thanks for the opportunity of a comment.

You truly seem(?) to have a problem with your hearing. One of the greatest evidences of love for another is to tell them when they are wrong and oppose them in their sin. The Word of God is full of examples of God Himself doing this, for example sending Jonah to the Ninevah.

This is something quite different from seeking to destroy (sometimes slaughter) those one hates, such as the RCC did in the Inquisition.

btw it is NOT and in NO WAY perfectly ok for you to profess faith in Jesus Christ and continue in the RCC, something I have to think if you, or anyone else for that matter has no problem understanding if they have a heart after God (to obey Him, NOT use Him) and listens to what He says to us in the Bible.

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News Item1/23/11 6:18 AM
Keidre  Find all comments by Keidre
John Yurich USA wrote:
are any Fundamentalist Protestants who think that the theft of lead from those Anglican Churches is wrong. Considering ....

think that it is perfectly ok for theft of lead to take place at Anglican Churches.

No John!
We BIBLICAL Protestants "obey" the Bible - Not like the Anglicans and Roman Catholics who are selective when it comes to obedience of God's Law and precepts.

This is a verse from the Bible, and these verses come from what is called the Ten Commandments which were written personally by God Himself....

Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.

So you see Biblical Protestants are the Christians who DO follow and obey Scripture.

Incidentally another place your RCC does not obey God is on idolatry because they worship graven images.
But God states....
Exod 20:
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:.....

So John you really are attending a "church" which belongs more to Satan - Than to the Lord!!

So as the Bible says; Come out from among them!!

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News Item1/23/11 5:50 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
I am surprised that there are any Fundamentalist Protestants who think that the theft of lead from those Anglican Churches is wrong. Considering that you Fundamentalist Protestants have such a hatred for the Anglican Church I would have thought that you Fundamentalist Protestants would think that it is perfectly ok for theft of lead to take place at Anglican Churches.
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News Item1/19/11 4:59 PM
Guinness  Find all comments by Guinness
Dusty wrote:
Does that mean if there is a problem with a pew they must get a suitably aged tree to cut for use and repair, eg 16th century tree??
It probably depends on whether it was moveable or not but I don't really know. English Heritage have helped preserve some outstanding examples of non-conformist chapels including the interior woodwork, boxed pews, wineglass pulpits etc.

If you wish to know more, English Heritage would be a good place to start research.

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/caring/listing/what-can-we-protect/listed-buildings/

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News Item1/19/11 4:48 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
To harmonize Guinness's point with Dusty's: take the lead down, store it, & use a cheap equivalent until (if ever) commodity prices make theft less likely. I don't know if this is practical. Otherwise, to enforce the law, they'll have to appoint a sexton or constable to keep watch all week! Or maybe they should use more of those hated British security cameras.

Offhand, I don't know why lead is in such demand (other than for bullets), since it's deprecated for its toxicity in many uses, like electrical solder.

To digress a bit, military bullets must be full metal jacketed to comply with the Hague Convention. They are less destructive[!] this way.

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News Item1/19/11 4:41 PM
Dusty  Find all comments by Dusty
Guinness wrote:
As per above
"Many of the Church of England's 16,000 churches are "listed," which provides planning protection for buildings of historical value, and date back hundreds of years".
Does that mean if there is a problem with a pew they must get a suitably aged tree to cut for use and repair, eg 16th century tree??
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News Item1/19/11 4:27 PM
Guinness  Find all comments by Guinness
Dusty wrote:
"In many cases, churches have replaced their roofs only to be targeted again, in one case 14 times"
Why don't these churches use alternative materials to lead, such as Ubiflex or other plastic materials for roofing?
As per above
"Many of the Church of England's 16,000 churches are "listed," which provides planning protection for buildings of historical value, and date back hundreds of years".
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News Item1/18/11 8:52 PM
Dalen | NWA  Find all comments by Dalen
I hate to see the punishment god rains down on these people for stealing from HIS house.
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News Item1/18/11 2:53 PM
Joe the Protestant  Find all comments by Joe the Protestant
Guess they felt Lead to come to church.
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News Item1/18/11 2:34 PM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
A lot of these lead roofed Churches are nothing only "dead weight" anyhow.
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