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FRIDAY, OCT 22, 2010  |  17 comments
Archbishop of Canterbury moves to flush out Anglicans plotting to defect to Rome
In a surprise announcement, Dr Rowan Williams said he wanted to establish a new joint group of Roman Catholic and Church of England figures to oversee the conversion process.

The proposed group would be designed to enable smooth and less painful transition for those who want to leave the Church of England to become Roman Catholics in protest at the ordination of women bishops.

It would also bring into the open the negotiations between disaffected Anglicans and the Vatican which have been taking place in secret for months. ...


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News Item10/24/10 10:06 PM
John Player  Find all comments by John Player
Jim Lincoln wrote:
a Bible translated by a multi-ethnic group of Christians, such as the [URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL] everyone would be much better off.
The [A]merican [V]ersion? You amaze me with your catholicity.
Anyone got a light for my fag?
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News Item10/24/10 6:25 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Did the world ever take notice of Christians, except for persecution's sake?
Precisely!

Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews: And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ. And some of them believed, and consorted with Paul and Silas; and of the devout Greeks a great multitude, and of the chief women not a few. But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people. And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also;
Acts 17:1-6 KJV

When scripture is believed and preached, things happen - both good and bad. So why do we not see this today, Mike? Generally, I mean. We should all be concerned about the answer.

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News Item10/24/10 5:57 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
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If folks would stick to ONE Bible and The Apostles Creed there would be such a unity among Christians that the world would have to take notice.
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Unity like there used to be before the newer translations, bro? All was peace, love and granola? Did the world ever take notice of Christians, except for persecution's sake?
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News Item10/24/10 2:31 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Why John UK, if people stop using The [A]nglican [V]ersion a syncretic Bible put forth by a sycretic church founded by a serial wife murderer! and start using a Bible translated by a multi-ethnic group of Christians, such as the [URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL] everyone would be much better off.

John had me looking around at the 39 Articles of Anglicanism, and finding them it does show that J.C. Ryles "was the exception that proved the rule!" The Anglican Church was never Christian.

"The faith of Anglicans is founded in the scriptures, the traditions of the apostolic church, the apostolic succession – "historic episcopate" and the early Church Fathers...." [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism]]]Anglicanism[/URL]

Colossians 2
8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.
9 For in Him all the fulness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

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News Item10/24/10 2:18 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Rylefan wrote:
"Let us rest our souls on this comfortable thought, when we see the mournful divisions which rend the Church of Christ. Let us remember that a large portion of them arise from ignorance. We know in part, and therefore misunderstand one another. A day comes when Lutherans shall no longer wrangle with Zwinglians, nor Calvinist with Arminian, nor Churchman with Dissenter. That day is the day of Christ's second coming. Then and then only will the promise receive its complete fulfillment--"At that day you shall know."
(Bishop J.C.Ryle)
(A Good Anglican)
From his comtry on John XIV 18-20:-
"18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."
Correct!

And I believe that sectarianism, which is none other than schism, is the greatest blight on the Christian Church. If folks would stick to ONE Bible and The Apostles Creed there would be such a unity among Christians that the world would have to take notice. Let all secondary issues take wings and fly off back to hell, for none of us have doctrinal perfection.

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News Item10/24/10 12:10 PM
Rylefan  Find all comments by Rylefan
Jim Lincoln wrote:
take 39 articles?
"Let us rest our souls on this comfortable thought, when we see the mournful divisions which rend the Church of Christ. Let us remember that a large portion of them arise from ignorance. We know in part, and therefore misunderstand one another. A day comes when Lutherans shall no longer wrangle with Zwinglians, nor Calvinist with Arminian, nor Churchman with Dissenter. That day is the day of Christ's second coming. Then and then only will the promise receive its complete fulfillment--"At that day you shall know."
(Bishop J.C.Ryle)
(A Good Anglican)

From his comtry on John XIV 18-20:-
"18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."

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News Item10/23/10 5:12 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Why John, UK, does it take 39 articles? It only takes 5!
If you used a few more articles Jim, you may eventually begin to agree with John (correct) Yurich, namely:

XVIII. Of obtaining eternal Salvation only by the Name of Christ.
"They also are to be had accursed that presume to say, That every man shall be saved by the Law or Sect which he professeth, so that he be diligent to frame his life according to that Law, and the light of Nature. For Holy Scripture doth set out unto us only the Name of Jesus Christ, whereby men must be saved."

Why not check out the Calvinistic Articles of the C Of E, and the anti Catholic sentiments which the modern church is too pussy-footing to even dare to mention in their assemblies. Also, one of my own favourites, Article 17 on predestination and election, without which none of us should be saved.

Go on Jim, have a read! And get some Protestant Reformation history into your head.

[URL=http://anglicansonline.org/basics/thirty-nine_articles.html]]]THIRT-NINE ARTICLES OF THE ANGLICAN CHURCH[/URL]

Enjoy and be edified, even though their ideas about baptism were askew.

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News Item10/23/10 2:52 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Why John, UK, does it take 39 articles? It only takes 5! [URL=http://www.fivesolas.com/5solas.htm]]]"Only Scripture," "Only Christ," "Only Grace," "Only Faith," and "To God Alone Be Glory"[/URL]. You'll have to tell me where the article at Wikipedia wen wrong on [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism]]]Anglicanism[/URL]. [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Dissenters]]]English Dissenters[/URL] many who were Christian and of course many who were no more Christian than the corrupt English Church, but at least knew it was wrong and left it. So, there were Christians in the Anglican Church, so? It is said there were Christians in the Romish Church down through history, but that never made the Romish Church Christian.

Because of Wesleyan copying of the Anglican tradition the fruit of his labor is suspect, [URL=http://www.leaderu.com/ftissues/ft9806/articles/abraham.html]]]United Methodists at the End of the Mainline[/URL]. Only the ignorant would ever mistake the Anglican Church for being Christian, Syncretism is condemned by Christians and the Anglican Church is every bit that, and always has been. It has always borne rotten fruit.

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News Item10/23/10 10:10 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Michael Hranek wrote:
John UK,
WHOA! my friend.
As a former NEVER to be again Roman Catholic familiar with the RCC's (NOT God's) doctrine of Transubstantiation I believe you need to explain your statement lest you give any false impression one can be saved by taking (qoute) The Eucharist (end of quote)
Michael my dear ol' bro

I apologise if I upset your equilibrium for a moment. Please note that I said he was converted "during" the eucharist. That is, it was while the eucharist was in process that some words from the vicar shook him to bits, leading to his new birth and baptism with the Spirit in a nearby bell tower, where he had adjourned to pray and seek God.
[URL=http://www.garethevansministries.org/media/Howell%20Harris%20web.pdf]]]Howell Harris Blog[/URL]

Sure, the doctrine of transubstantiation is yet another error of the Roman Catholic church.

Thanks also to Roger for your encouraging words.

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News Item10/23/10 10:10 AM
16 Benes Later  Find all comments by 16 Benes Later
Rowan wrote:
It'a just a ruse to make my own transition more smooth and less painful.
Bene XVII
Perhaps Rowan Williams wants to be promoted to Saint like his Liberal buddy John Newman.
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News Item10/23/10 8:51 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
John UK wrote:
Also you could read the lives of great men of God like Howell Harris, who was converted during the eucharist,
John UK,
WHOA! my friend.

As a former NEVER to be again Roman Catholic familiar with the RCC's (NOT God's) doctrine of Transubstantiation I believe you need to explain your statement lest you give any false impression one can be saved by taking (qoute) The Eucharist (end of quote)

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News Item10/23/10 8:15 AM
Dr Roger Clark | Yr Almaen  Find all comments by Dr Roger Clark
QUOTE][AUTHOR]John UK[/AUTHOR]Ever read The Thirty-Nine Articles, Jim?
I suggest you do so, in order to stop making a complete idiot of yourself by making idiotic comments about a church you obviously know nothing about.
Also you could read the lives of great men of God like Howell Harris, who was converted during the eucharist, George Whitefield the great (Frenchy) field-preacher, Bishop John Ryle whose commentaries on the gospels are still read avidly by sensible, aspiring preachers today, and many many more good Anglican men and women who will knock spots off both of us at the Bema.
Even the Anglican Wesley brothers will shine like stars at the Bema, because of their devotion and free-willed obedience to their Master [LTRU].[/QUOTE]Agree with you entirely John.
Americans particularly ought to be able to remember George Whitefield in this connection.
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News Item10/22/10 6:08 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Jim Lincoln wrote:
....Anglicanism has never been Christian.....
Ever read The Thirty-Nine Articles, Jim?

I suggest you do so, in order to stop making a complete idiot of yourself by making idiotic comments about a church you obviously know nothing about.

Also you could read the lives of great men of God like Howell Harris, who was converted during the eucharist, George Whitefield the great (Frenchy) field-preacher, Bishop John Ryle whose commentaries on the gospels are still read avidly by sensible, aspiring preachers today, and many many more good Anglican men and women who will knock spots off both of us at the Bema.

Even the Anglican Wesley brothers will shine like stars at the Bema, because of their devotion and free-willed obedience to their Master [LTRU].

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News Item10/22/10 2:49 PM
Rowan  Find all comments by Rowan
It'a just a ruse to make my own transition more smooth and less painful.

Bene XVII

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News Item10/22/10 2:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Wayfare, as has been pointed out before, Anglicanism has never been Christian.
"The faith of Anglicans is founded in the scriptures, the traditions of the apostolic church, the apostolic succession – "historic episcopate" and the early Church Fathers...." [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism]]]Anglicanism[/URL]
This is a rejection of the Five Solas tdhat define a Christian and a Christian organization, [URL=http://www.fivesolas.com/5solas.htm]]]"Only Scripture," "Only Christ," "Only Grace," "Only Faith," and "To God Alone Be Glory"[/URL]. The Anglican Church as a Church as just as anti-Christian as the Romish Church. This shows in part the Anglican attachment to Rome, [URL=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11557206]]]Anglican congregation plans to convert to Catholicism[/URL]

Colossians 2
8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

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News Item10/22/10 11:11 AM
Wayfare  Find all comments by Wayfare
"Dr Williams acknowledged that the ordination of homosexuals and women as bishops threatened to create “deeper divisions” within the world-wide Anglican Communion.
"I feel that we may yet have to face the possibility of deeper divisions," he said."

The further a church gets away from the Bible, the more Satan destoys it.
The wrath of God is upon them iaw Romans 1:18 "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness"
Therefore....
v22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"

The Anglican communion is no longer Biblical or Christian. But they are blind to the truth.

Matt 23:24 "Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel."

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