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Restoring holy order: Is the King James Bible the only version we should celebrate?
The King James Bible speaks across boundaries of race, class and education. Its colloquialisms, allusions and proverbs have entered into common speech." That's what PD James wrote in a column entitled "Millennium Masterworks" in a Sunday newspaper in 1999. She goes on to write about the Bible's influential "lapidary cadences", expressions such as "the blind leading the blind" and "eat, drink and be merry", and to assert that: "No book has had a more profound and lasting influence on religious life, the history and the culture, the institutions and the language of the English-speaking peoples throughout the world than has the King James Bible."

It's a well-worn line of argument. I have many times written similar pieces myself. ' And Melvyn Bragg got so carried away recently that he, rather oddly, described the King James Bible (KJB) as the DNA of English. But as the 400th anniversary of the KJB – ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mike wrote:
A shame such comments caused this degree of illness. Yet the antics of Mr. CAPSLOCK seem less able to cause such discomfort. Upper case better for the lower GI tract?
Well, the truth does seem to unsettle some especially Mr. Caplocks

As far as "it" is concerned Rev May in his [URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/james/may_addendum_spirit_itself.html]]]An Addendum to “The Spirit Itself”[/URL].

But the simple fact is the AV could be raised from a third-rate Bible to a second-rate one, if the English was modernized!

Doug Kutilek wrote:
Let me say it again--the sole justification for producing and publishing any Bible translation is so that those who do not understand the words in the original languages can nevertheless gain access to them through words they do understand in their own language....
excerpt from, [URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_restating_obvious.htm]]]Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations[/URL]. If you have to use a dictionary to read a version of a Bible throw that Bible out!

Mike, I do it for the people who haven't be exposed to the KJVO cult, not for the cultists.

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News Item4/27/11 7:29 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Dr. Zoloft wrote:
Nebraska Man's nasb attitude sure makes him one tough Hesperopithecus haroldcookii, but he will crumble anyway.
Sad thing is; I used to use the nasb. But after years of reading his comments, I put it aside. I just became ill with it.
A shame such comments caused this degree of illness. Yet the antics of Mr. CAPSLOCK seem less able to cause such discomfort. Upper case better for the lower GI tract?
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News Item4/27/11 6:14 PM
Professor Paxil  Find all comments by Professor Paxil
Dr. Zoloft wrote:
Sad thing is; I used to use the nasb. But after years of reading his comments, I put it aside. I just became ill with it.
Yep! Remindes me of a friend in school that listened to and talked excessively about Cat Stevens music. To the point that many of us that once liked the musician, hated to hear him come on the radio.
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News Item4/27/11 3:22 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
I need to give you some more Drs. to complain about,
---
Who cares, Jim? Read what you will, let others do the same. So far, you have convinced no one, and no one has convinced you.

Both sides might ask if futility is a worthy goal.

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News Item4/27/11 2:34 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I need to give you some more Drs. to complain about,
Drs. Ankerberg & Weldon wrote:
As noted previously, many KJVO writers argue God had the KJV written so that through the translators, He could produce an inerrant English Bible.

But once one realizes how Erasmus, who was a Roman Catholic priest, put together his authoritative Greek text from which the Textus Receptus and the 1611 King James edition came, it is clear that Erasmus’ text is not perfect.

In fact, if one uses the same logic as the KJVO proponents, and cites selected passages which seem to teach salvation by works, one could even argue that it is the KJV itself which distorts the doctrine of salvation. Remember that the KJV has been the favorite Bible of new religions and cults, like Mormonism, that promote salvation by works. Why? Because in many places the KJV verses are less clear than the reliable modern versions.

from [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/practical-christianity/PC0303W3.htm]]]The Conflict Over Different Bible Versions -- Part Five[/URL].
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News Item4/26/11 9:30 PM
J. Denver's Cousin  Find all comments by J. Denver's Cousin
Dr. Do Alot wrote:
dr. zoloft is a QUACK--But Then Again:
If It Looks Like A Duck,
If It Sounds Like A Duck,
If It Swims Like A Duck,
If It Flies Like A Duck, . . .
Then It's A Quack !
Right ?
Now, Regarding "Restoring Holy Order: Is The KING JAMES BIBLE The Only Version We Should Celebrate ?"
In The English Language...YES !
Why would you say that when the Dr. hold ther same position you do against Jim? Did you think he was speaking of you?
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News Item4/26/11 4:52 PM
Wayneuk  Find all comments by Wayneuk
Dr. Do Alot wrote:
HA, HA, HA !
The CAPS always did give you away and your JESUITIC(S) gymnastics, but we both know what I mean friend.

Why post such deception as 'a bible christian who belives' which has left a trail that will always lead back to the original TLC? When did you become a "Dr"?

I don't think you will be giving a side-splitting answer this side of eternity as an explanation, but you know that you are found out.

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News Item4/26/11 4:26 PM
Dr. Do Alot  Find all comments by Dr. Do Alot
wayneuk wrote:
( I ) "WHOLE-HEARTEDLY Stand Behind ANY & ALL Of My Previously Posted Comments; WITHOUT Equivocation(s), Mental Reservation(s) Or Purposes Of Evasion(s)--ESPECIALLY ALL THE COMMENTS OF MYSELF AND-OR THE MESSENGER'S REGARDING HELL-FIRE !
*As per My Comment(s) On 5/30/08 4:12 PM:
"He (The MESSENGER & WARRIOR) has made some very interesting statements on the literal existence of Hell/Hades that I found very un-nerving & disturbing.
For instances, He not only says that He has visited Hell/Hades a few times ALREADY; but He says that Satan has his Central-Command at the very HEAD of Hell.
He also said:
1.Hell/Hades is in the shape of a Humongous Human Body in the center of the Earth.
2.Hell has 12 Entrances & 6 Exits.
3.The Hottest Part of Hell is at the HEART--Where those who are Tortured/Tormented there are those who knew The TRUTH--But Did NOT Urgently Act/React upon IT; such as:
a.Take Jesus Christ as Personal Savior.
b.Pray & Testify To Others With The Biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ; To Keep Those Destined To Hell From Going There.
c.Apostates"
*AMEN, AMEN & AMEN...!" 8/20/09 1:15 PM
HA, HA, HA !

THIS DOES BETTER READING THAN wayneuk's SUPPOSED "daft comics" comment:

"I take the Trinitarian Bible society position"

HA !

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News Item4/26/11 4:23 PM
wayneuk  Find all comments by wayneuk
Thanks Tony who posted quote:

"WHOLE-HEARTEDLY Stand Behind ANY & ALL Of My Previously Posted Comments; WITHOUT Equivocation(s), Mental Reservation(s) Or Purposes Of Evasion(s)--ESPECIALLY ALL THE COMMENTS OF MYSELF AND-OR THE MESSENGER'S REGARDING HELL-FIRE !

*As per My Comment(s) On 5/30/08 4:12 PM:

"He (The MESSENGER & WARRIOR) has made some very interesting statements on the literal existence of Hell/Hades that I found very un-nerving & disturbing.

For instances, He not only says that He has visited Hell/Hades a few times ALREADY; but He says that Satan has his Central-Command at the very HEAD of Hell.

He also said:

1.Hell/Hades is in the shape of a Humongous Human Body in the center of the Earth.

2.Hell has 12 Entrances & 6 Exits.

3.The Hottest Part of Hell is at the HEART--Where those who are Tortured/Tormented there are those who knew The TRUTH--But Did NOT Urgently Act/React upon IT; such as:

a.Take Jesus Christ as Personal Savior.
b.Pray & Testify To Others With The Biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ; To Keep Those Destined To Hell From Going There.
c.Apostates"

*AMEN, AMEN & AMEN ! ! !"
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25588]]]8/20/09 1:15 PM[/URL]

An example of a deceiver at work Dr do a lot of posting Tony?

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News Item4/26/11 4:16 PM
Dr. Do Alot  Find all comments by Dr. Do Alot
wayneuk wrote:
can't resist (my) foolish posting(s). Better to save (my) time and...
"As (wayneuk) returneth to his vomit, so a fool (wayneuk) returneth to his folly" !

HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA !

ALMIGHTY GOD SURE HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR !

HE HAS TO--ESPECIALLY WHEN DEALING WITH FOOLS, LIARS & DECEIVERS LIKE wayneuk & etc. !

HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA !

I Especially Get A Kick Out Of How The "Moderators" Of This Sermonaudio Website "CENSORED" My Statement, Ere I Posted It On This Thread; That Affirms The TEXTUS-RECEPTUS OVER, ABOVE & BEYOND The CORRUPT, EVIL & WICKED EGYPTIAN-ALEXANDRIAN-ARIAN So-Called "Bible" Manuscripts !

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News Item4/26/11 4:11 PM
wayneuk  Find all comments by wayneuk
John UK wrote:
Man that is one big deceiver!
Just proves the point doesn't it. Thanks bro.
"As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly."

TLC...he can't resist his foolish posting. Better to save your time and...[URL=http://th558.photobucket.com/albums/ss22/hart1014/th_IgnoreButton.jpg]]]!!!!!!!![/URL]

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News Item4/26/11 4:05 PM
Dr. Do Alot  Find all comments by Dr. Do Alot
John UK wrote:
Man that is one big deceiver!
Yep ! Couldn't Agree With You MORE:

That wayneuk Is Indeed A DECEIVER !

The Very Fact That He Has DECEIVED You, John UK, Is A "Testament" In Itself !

But, Then I EXPECT Deceivers To Continue To DECEIVE, Even If It Were Possible THE VERY ELECT !

"But EVIL MEN And SEDUCERS Shall Wax Worse And Worse, DECEIVING, And Being DECEIVED." 2 TIMOTHY 3:13

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News Item4/26/11 3:58 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
wayneuk wrote:
Worse than even that!
see 8/10/08 5:54 PM
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25588]]]Tony-A Bible christian who believes[/URL]
He will be judged by his own words but is clearly out to deceive others...read his former posts and takeheed.
Man that is one big deceiver!

Just proves the point doesn't it. Thanks bro.

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News Item4/26/11 3:56 PM
Dr. Do Alot  Find all comments by Dr. Do Alot
John UK wrote:
news...unbecoming.
HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA !

HOW LAUGHABLE, IF NOT PITIFUL !

Especially The Words Of "Worse than even that!"-wayneuk:

As he, wayneuk, WILL BE JUDGED BY HIS OWN WORDS--

AS he IS CLEARLY OUT TO DECEIVE OTHERS; AND NOT JUST himself !

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News Item4/26/11 3:48 PM
wayneuk  Find all comments by wayneuk
John UK wrote:
Good news Jim, and you can stop behaving like Nebraska Man now, it is unbecoming.
Good news, there is a real live KJV-Onlyist cultist turned up, by the name of Tony Lopez Cisneros. He is certainly a KJV-Onlyist cultist
Worse than even that!

see 8/10/08 5:54 PM
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25588]]]Tony-A Bible christian who believes[/URL]

He will be judged by his own words but is clearly out to deceive others...read his former posts and takeheed.

Stick to your daft comics Tony

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News Item4/26/11 3:32 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Jim Lincoln wrote:
But, John, UK, thanks to your comments and others pushing King James Onlyism....
Good news Jim, and you can stop behaving like Nebraska Man now, it is unbecoming.

Good news, there is a real live KJV-Onlyist cultist turned up, by the name of Tony Lopez Cisneros. He is certainly a KJV-Onlyist cultist whom I disagree with wholeheartedly, so you can cease calling me a KJV-Onlyist cultist, seeing as I disagree with KJV-Onlyist cultists, seeing as TLC is a great example of a KJV-Onlyist cultist and I disagre with him that only the KJV may be suitably used by God's people. I am a TR-Onlyist who is opposed to the Sinaiticus, greek text used in the modern versions which contains the Shepherd of Hermas and the apocrypha, and opposed to the Vaticanus, infamous greek text closeted by The Pope in his library in Vatican City, from where of course it gets its name. And also opposed to the United Bible Societies which is ecumenical and anti-Reformed, yet whose greek text is used to translate the modern versions - EVEN BIBLES USED IN REFORMED CIRCLES - and I believe folks better wake up to what is going on, and who is being bewitched these days.

C'mon Jim, let's talk UBS texts.

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News Item4/26/11 3:26 PM
WayneUk  Find all comments by WayneUk
Dr. Do Alot wrote:
Well, well, well, If It Isn't dr. do little--a Worse QUACK Than dr. zoloft !
What pills were you on when your friend was meeting aliens and visiting hell? Want a link to refresh your mind? They certainly weren't [URL=http://www.sweetjunkie.com/uploads/images_products_large/Smarties.jpg]]]These[/URL]

Tony said: I Suppose THE ALEXANDRIAN CULT Has Progammed You Quite Well These Last 30 Years !

My response: Sorry but I take the Trinitarian Bible society position on the authorised version

[URL=http://www.trinitarianbiblesociety.org/]]]TBS[/URL]

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News Item4/26/11 3:18 PM
Dr. Do Alot  Find all comments by Dr. Do Alot
wayneuk wrote:
Well, well, well, If It Isn't dr. do little--a WORSE QUACK Than dr. zoloft !

I Suppose THE ALEXANDRIAN CULT Has Progammed You Quite Well These Last 30 Years !

Programmed You And Your APOSTATE COMRADES To HELL & TO THE ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE !

Br. HYLES At FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, HAMMOND, IN, WARNED US OF YOU "FALSE-BRETHREN" & HOW YOU WOULD NEVER GENUINELY BE TRUE "SOUL-WINNERS"; BUT "PROSYLETIZERS" OF "CHURCHIANITY": MAKING ADAM'S SONS "TWO-FOLD CHILDREN OF HELL MORE THAN YOURSELVES" !

Br. WAYNE VAN GELDEREN SR., According To A Former Member Of MMBC, Downers Grove, IL, By The Name Of Br. BLACK (Whose Son Attended & Graduated From The MMB Christian School) Went To AN EARLY GRAVE For Having PUBLICLY Said Before THE WHOLE CONGREGATION At MMBC That THE CORRUPT(ED) EGYPTIAN-ALEXANDRIAN-ARIAN Was The "Divinely Inspired, Authoritative & Preserved Word Of God" !

SUCH BLASPHEMY & OUTRIGHT LIES & DECEPTION OF THE HISTORIC RECORD WAS SWIFTLY & SPEEDILY ANSWERED FIRST:

BY THE EARLY & PREMATURE DEATH OF MRS. VAN GELDEREN;

AND THEN BY THE ILL-HEALTH, RETIREMENT & EVENTUAL DEATH OF DR. WAYNE VAN GELDEREN SR. HIMSELF !

***I PRAY THAT WAYNE VAN GELDEREN JR., WHO WAS ALSO A "FRIEND" OF BR. HYLES, STILL ONLY USES THE KING JAMES BIBLE !

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News Item4/26/11 3:06 PM
WayneUk  Find all comments by WayneUk
Dr. Do Alot wrote:
Can The TRUE Christians Who Read This Sermonaudio Website See Through The FAKE & PHONEY "Postings" By "Jesuit(ic)s"
Yes Tony we can always spot YOU and I thought you were the biggest KJO nut for all the wrong reasons and in the same camp as Gail Ripplinger

Now you want to appear as you have progressed

How IS your comic reading progressing...Alberto and Chick etc

[URL=http://revivemyheadlights.com/headlights/Man_With_Big_Glasses.gif]]]Deceivers always in my headlamps[/URL]

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News Item4/26/11 2:47 PM
Dr. Do Alot  Find all comments by Dr. Do Alot
Jim Lincoln wrote:
But, John, UK, thanks to your comments and others...
Well, Jim, At Least QUACK dr. zoloft & QUACKEE john uk Have "Door-Nail" Faith:

You Have NO FAITH At ALL !

No Faith In The THE TEXTUS-RECEPTUS & HISTORICALLY PRESERVED AUTHORIZED HOLY 66 BOOKS OF THE ORTHODOX JUDEO-CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURES !

The Very FACT That You Claim To Use The So-Called "good translations" Of The ASV & DARBY-"Bible"; Shows To THE WHOLE WORLD Just How CORRUPTED & PERVERTED Your Understanding Of THE GENUINE HISTORIC RECORD OF BIBLE MANUSCRIPTS Really Is !

The ASV & Darby-"Bible" Are Partially, If Not WHOLLY, Based On THE CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & EVIL EGYPTIAN-ARIAN-ALEXANDRIAN "BIBLE" MANUSCRIPTS !

BOB JONES SR., Who Was Decieved & A Member HIMSELF Of The Committee For The Translation Of The ASV; Readily Admitted It Was A CORRUPT(ED) & USELESS "Translation" Of THE HOLY BIBLE--And Used THE KING JAMES BIBLE For TEACHING & PREACHING Until The Day HE DIED !

*And My Former Pastor, DR. WAYNE VAN GELDEREN SR., Before HE DIED Personally Admitted To Me He ALWAYS Used The Darby-"Bible" & NOT The KING JAMES BIBLE While Preaching Behind The Pulpit At MARQUETTE MANOR BAPTIST CHURCH, DOWNERS GROVE, IL: THEREBY DECIEVING ALL THE KING JAMES BIBLE USING CHURCH MEMBERS !

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