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FRONT PAGE  |  11/24/2017
THURSDAY, SEP 2, 2010  |  22 comments  |  1 commentary
Evangelical Scholar Troubled by Theological Ambiguity at Beck Rally
In the days following Glenn Beck's highly publicized rally in Washington, D.C., conservative Christians have come out expressing their concern not over the increasingly popular broadcaster, but over the apparent confusion among Christ followers.

"There is something very strange going on here. I don't understand the disconnect on the part of Christians," said Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky.

Mohler, one of the nation’s pre-eminent evangelical theologians, found that Beck's rally cries were resonating with many Christians.

"What concerned me about that event on the mall was not so much Glenn Beck and the politicians in the program; it was the picture of those religious leaders standing together," he said Tuesday on The Janet Mefferd Show. ...


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News Item9/8/10 2:29 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
DavidD1960, I think my comments speak for themselves without ambiguity,

Webster's 1913 Dictionary wrote:
Ambiguity
...The quality or state of being ambiguous; doubtfulness or uncertainty, particularly as to the signification of language, arising from its admitting of more than one meaning; an equivocal word or expression.
No shadow of ambiguity can rest upon the course to be pursued.
I. Taylor.
The words are of single signification, without any ambiguity.
South.
I believe my statement was not abstruse? I can't say for certain, but it seems that the powers that be, like Dr. Mohler, and I know I like some of his comments--if not all of his actions such as signing the Manhattan statement. Oh, no ambiguity in this, Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses
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News Item9/7/10 11:38 AM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Beck is a bit too sanguine for me but I appreciate what he's doing and trying to do for our culture as a whole.
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News Item9/7/10 11:13 AM
True Words  Find all comments by True Words
Your Mama wrote:
You might remember that the reformers also have blood on their hands for killing Christians within the Anabaptist movement who stood against the reformation's abuses regarding pedobaptism ect. The hero's of the reformation will be judged by God for murdering fellow Christians
No! It was heretics which were excecuted by the justice and punishment of the day in 16th century Europe and UK.

Whereas the Reformers were GOD's true servants and brought the Protestant Church into being and brought the church back to truth and Scripture, Holy law and doctrine. These are facts the Elect are aware of.

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News Item9/4/10 10:25 PM
Joe the Protestant  Find all comments by Joe the Protestant
Your Mama wrote:
You might remember that the reformers also have blood on their hands for killing Christians within the Anabaptist movement who stood against the reformation's abuses regarding pedobaptism ect. The hero's of the reformation will be judged by God for murdering fellow Christians
Check your sources a little closer. You will find that the reformers themselves did not do the killing, but rather the political powers. Yes the reformers were consenting to the deaths, and they will be held accountable. But all governments, catholic or protestant held heresy as a capital offence. In their historical context treason and heresy were synonymous. Thankfully the deaths of the anabaptist were not in vain. Protestantism has a totaly different context today because of that.
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News Item9/4/10 9:42 PM
Your Mama  Find all comments by Your Mama
You might remember that the reformers also have blood on their hands for killing Christians within the Anabaptist movement who stood against the reformation's abuses regarding pedobaptism ect. The hero's of the reformation will be judged by God for murdering fellow Christians
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News Item9/4/10 12:24 AM
DavidD1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by DavidD1960
Doctor wrote:
Please don't say that. His rantings have junked up these forums for years, and have added to the many things he will have to answer for. Not to mention that encouraging him reinforces his narccisitic delusions. This man needs help.
Just trying to be nice to him,thought it might be therapeutic.
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News Item9/3/10 10:19 PM
Doctor  Find all comments by Doctor
DavidD1960 wrote:
HEY TONY, glad you're back.I missed ya.
Please don't say that. His rantings have junked up these forums for years, and have added to the many things he will have to answer for. Not to mention that encouraging him reinforces his narccisitic delusions. This man needs help.
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News Item9/3/10 5:54 PM
DavidD1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by DavidD1960
HEY TONY, glad you're back.I missed ya.
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News Item9/3/10 5:05 PM
You Know Who  Find all comments by You Know Who
In Reading The Article On "The Christian Post" I Couldn't Help But Notice How This " 'Evangelical' Scholar" Noted How Politicians "Use Us".

It Reminded Me Of How The "Skull-&-Bones" Presidents BUSH 1 & BUSH 2 Satanically & Deceptively "Used" BOB JONES UNIVERSITY, DR. BOB JONES JR. & DR. BOB JONES III.

BJ-III Should've Gotten A "Clue" When He Got That Personal Visit From That "Gorgonic Devil/Demon-Spirit" (Baphomet?) Back When He Was President Of BJU In The 80s & 90s !

According To BJ-III, While Speaking In Closed-Door Meetings With Ministerial "Majors", He Said That The "Gorgonic Devil" Told Him That BJU Was Going To Be "Destroyed" Very Soon.

BJ-III Probably Not Realizing That He Himself "Started That Ball Rolling" In BJU's Political, If Not "Religious", APOSTASY By Endorsing Skull-&-Boners BUSH 1 & 2 In The U.S. Presidential Elections Of 1988 & 2000 !

BJU Has Yet To Recover From Her "TEXTUAL-CRITICAL" APOSTASY; Since She Has Forsaken Her BYZANTINE-Based "King James" Bible Of The 1920s-1980s For Her ALEXANDRIAN-Based New-American-Standard-"Bible" "NASB" Per-Version !

In The Late-'80s/Early-'90s, I Had Personal Sit-Down Meetings With BJU's "Liason" For "Religious/Biblical-Fundamentalism" Affairs With The GEORGE BUSH 1 ADMINISTRATION:

DR. WAYNE VAN GELDEREN SR.

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News Item9/3/10 4:50 PM
DavidD1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by DavidD1960
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Which Casey, David? I know Gil Rugh never signed any such Manhattan Declaration. Shame on Albert Mohler if he did! Huh, looking around the 'net I see he did, Why I Signed "The Manhattan Declaration", directly out of the horse's mouth. Anyway, may pastor wouldn't because he would no doubt consider it Reversing the Reformation. (Well as best as I can say as any member of IHCC but not AS a board or staff member of IHCC.)
I think more is lost than gained in such ecumenical ventures. Protestant leaders can support freedom of religion principles as individuals and have just as great an impact.
I like you Jim, you're a funny guy.
You're comments are like a box of choc-o-lates, you never know what your gonna get.
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News Item9/3/10 2:37 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Which Casey, David? I know Gil Rugh never signed any such Manhattan Declaration. Shame on Albert Mohler if he did! Huh, looking around the 'net I see he did, Why I Signed "The Manhattan Declaration", directly out of the horse's mouth. Anyway, may pastor wouldn't because he would no doubt consider it Reversing the Reformation. (Well as best as I can say as any member of IHCC but not AS a board or staff member of IHCC.)

I think more is lost than gained in such ecumenical ventures. Protestant leaders can support freedom of religion principles as individuals and have just as great an impact.

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News Item9/3/10 11:26 AM
DavidD1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by DavidD1960
Jim Lincoln wrote:
People have spoken up against these ecumenical groupings, my pastor years ago pointed what was wrong with the Promise Keepers and the Rising Tide of Ecumenism.
I'm happy to see that Albert Mohler is stepping up to the plate to take a swat at such anti-Christian behavior.
JIM, HELLO, do you even know what the manhattan declaration is or what it says? It's ALL ABOUT ecumenicalism. It also includes Catholics,who,as I recall are considered antichrist by the old reformers. Though not so much,anymore. Seems there is no joy in mudville,nebraska your "MIGHTY CASEY" has struck out!
Leaves you defending someone with double standards.
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News Item9/2/10 5:46 PM
DavidD1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by DavidD1960
DavidD1960 wrote:
I HIGHLY recommend today's featured sermon by Rev. Colin Mercer,to anyone who is reading the comments on this thread. It is an excellent example,of what I believe Glenn was trying to proclaim. Regardless of what you think about Glenn,PLEASE listen to this message from this Godly man.
Thank you SA for recommending this sermon,it is timely for us today in God's church.
BTW Frank,I apologize,I didn't see the IF.
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News Item9/2/10 3:32 PM
DavidD1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by DavidD1960
I HIGHLY recommend today's featured sermon by Rev. Colin Mercer,to anyone who is reading the comments on this thread. It is an excellent example,of what I believe Glenn was trying to proclaim. Regardless of what you think about Glenn,PLEASE listen to this message from this Godly man.
Thank you SA for recommending this sermon,it is timely for us today in God's church.
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News Item9/2/10 3:32 PM
Frank | Clearwater Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
DavidD1960 wrote:
Thank you Frank for clearing up my eternal destination for me.Now I don't have to wonder anymore. Amazing how you don't know me but can tell me what I believe in. Let's be straight about this,Glenn Beck could be the chief of sinners,but I think God used him to reach a lot of people with a message that he wanted to get out. That sounds like someone else I read about,who was knocked off his "high horse". I don't know if Glenn believes in the doctrines of the Mormon church,I only know what he tried to accomplish last week.Please let's stop judging the messenger,and take time to listen to what he was trying to say.
Sorry David, I try to be very exact when I write things? I said "if" you were a pluralist. I stand by that. I didn't say you were lost or that you were a pluralist.
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News Item9/2/10 1:46 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
People have spoken up against these ecumenical groupings, my pastor years ago pointed what was wrong with the Promise Keepers and the Rising Tide of Ecumenism.

I'm happy to see that Albert Mohler is stepping up to the plate to take a swat at such anti-Christian behavior.

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News Item9/2/10 12:35 PM
DavidD1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by DavidD1960
Frank wrote:
David,which God did Beck bring glory to? He believes there are billions and ours is Satan's brother. If you adhere to pluralism, you are not saved!
Thank you Frank for clearing up my eternal destination for me.Now I don't have to wonder anymore. Amazing how you don't know me but can tell me what I believe in. Let's be straight about this,Glenn Beck could be the chief of sinners,but I think God used him to reach a lot of people with a message that he wanted to get out. That sounds like someone else I read about,who was knocked off his "high horse". I don't know if Glenn believes in the doctrines of the Mormon church,I only know what he tried to accomplish last week.Please let's stop judging the messenger,and take time to listen to what he was trying to say.
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News Item9/2/10 12:03 PM
Frank | Clearwater Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
David,which God did Beck bring glory to? He believes there are billions and ours is Satan's brother. If you adhere to pluralism, you are not saved!
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News Item9/2/10 11:48 AM
DavidD1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by DavidD1960
MikeR wrote:
DavidD1960, what you are missing is the fact that Luther REPUDIATED the Roman church and CAME OUT OF IT, he did not promote ecumenical association with it. The reformers to a man called the papal system antichrist.
Elijah was not jealous of the 400 prophets of Baal, he was jealous for the true God and for all to recognize Him as the only God. The ecumenical crowd at Mt Carmel all lost their heads ...if you remember the story.
I notice you didn't answer the other questions. If Glenn is sooo wrong, then why haven't these spiritual giants spoken up before now? They've had plenty of time to do what Glenn did,only "God's way".BTW,that WAS my point about Luther. Why didn't everyone just say that he was just a rogue catholic? Because they READ what he wrote! We would be wise to do the same.
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News Item9/2/10 11:42 AM
MikeR | PA  Find all comments by MikeR
DavidD1960, what you are missing is the fact that Luther REPUDIATED the Roman church and CAME OUT OF IT, he did not promote ecumenical association with it. The reformers to a man called the papal system antichrist.

Elijah was not jealous of the 400 prophets of Baal, he was jealous for the true God and for all to recognize Him as the only God. The ecumenical crowd at Mt Carmel all lost their heads ...if you remember the story.

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