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Evangelical Alliance challenges uninspiring sermons
The Evangelical Alliance has released new resources to help pastors deliver inspiring sermons after recent research found that most churchgoers did not find sermons life-changing.

In particular, the research found that although 96 per cent of churchgoers looked forward to Sunday’s sermon, less than 17 per cent found that it led to a change in their life.

Croft and Gaukroger are among the speakers at a preaching colloquium taking place at the London School of Theology this week to consider issues like preaching models for the 21st century, training the next generation of preachers, preaching to people in their 20s and 30s, and renewing an appetite for preaching. ...


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John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
helpingjim wrote:
The "Good News" is the Gospel Jim.
You will find it accurately recorded in the KING JAMES BIBLE.
Jim needs all the help he can get.
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News Item5/1/10 4:17 PM
helpingjim  Find all comments by helpingjim
Jim Lincoln wrote:
graphw, The Good News, is to lead men from sin,
The "Good News" is the Gospel Jim.

You will find it accurately recorded in the KING JAMES BIBLE.

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News Item5/1/10 4:12 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
graphw, The Good News, is to lead men from sin, q.v.,[URL=http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L131.pdf]]]How to Have Victory Over Sin[/URL], and to glorify God, [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonssource&sermonID=1070414423]]]The Truth Behind The Church's Purpose[/URL].
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News Item5/1/10 9:23 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Michael Hranek wrote:
John UK
The issue is truly multifacited (sp?).
Romans 10 is clear how shall they call upon Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him in whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent.
imho we need preachers with a passionate contagious Fear of the LORD who will fearlessly preach Christ (not just in church on Sunay morning but out in the world as well) and let the chips fall where they may. When all is said and done then those who come to church and stay will be real and those who are false will not want to be there and leave or "stone" the preacher. And God will be glorified
Michael, you said it in your post, "what we NEED is..."

And if the churches just continue going down the same old road of 'status quo' with formalist services which do no-one any good, mere rituals which displease God, then no change will ever come. God has the right to say, "So you're happy the way things are, then that is how it will be."

Evangelism in the New Testament, as you know, was mainly done outside of a church building. The majority of sinners are 'out there', which is why Norman has gone to London with his banner.

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News Item5/1/10 8:32 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
John UK wrote:
However, I have said for years, that it would be better if church services were postponed (because of Ichabod Syndrome) and instead simply prayed together until God came in power and restored normality. If the glory has departed......
John UK
The issue is truly multifacited (sp?).
Romans 10 is clear how shall they call upon Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him in whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent.

imho we need preachers with a passionate contagious Fear of the LORD who will fearlessly preach Christ (not just in church on Sunay morning but out in the world as well) and let the chips fall where they may. When all is said and done then those who come to church and stay will be real and those who are false will not want to be there and leave or "stone" the preacher. And God will be glorified

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News Item5/1/10 8:10 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
savedbygrace wrote:
Correction:
Post on, 4/27/10, 3:26 p.m. addressed to John UK:
Lost my train of thought and did not proofread but the following parenthetical phrase should have been included at the beginning:
"at the conclusion of Sunday's service", men will not be engaged with talks about sports or even events concerning our children.
Although, it may happen that a mans focus and delight would be about the things of the Lord at all times, it is sad when after hearing a powerful sermon that men would gather afterwords and speak of vain and trivial things. Must our heads always be held high in a celebratory fashion and never held low in contrition first!
You'd think that preachers would be most disheartened to hear the trivial chatter after a church service, wouldn't you? Trouble is, if you try to engage them in conversation about the sermon, or make known that you have been quite affected by it and want to know more, they too seem quite disinterested in it, preferring to talk about anything else.

However, I have said for years, that it would be better if church services were postponed (because of Ichabod Syndrome) and instead simply prayed together until God came in power and restored normality. If the glory has departed......

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News Item5/1/10 5:21 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Correction:

Post on, 4/27/10, 3:26 p.m. addressed to John UK:

Lost my train of thought and did not proofread but the following parenthetical phrase should have been included at the beginning:

"at the conclusion of Sunday's service", men will not be engaged with talks about sports or even events concerning our children.

Although, it may happen that a mans focus and delight would be about the things of the Lord at all times, it is sad when after hearing a powerful sermon that men would gather afterwords and speak of vain and trivial things. Must our heads always be held high in a celebratory fashion and never held low in contrition first!

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News Item4/28/10 2:08 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
savedbygrace wrote:
If you fellas remember, pray for me. I want to love the Lord my God, with all of my heart, soul, mind and strength!!! Beginning today I will write both you and John's names down and pray for you. Heb. 12:2
Bill, that is a most wonderful thing you do, in praying for an undeserving turnip. It brought a few tears to my eyes when I read that last night. Thank you bro, that's two dear brothers who pray for me now. And I will sure try to pray for you also, and your house.

If you are able to love the Lord supremely, and your neighbour as yourself, you will do well. Jesus is a most wonderful Saviour who never leaves us nor forsakes us. And he is leading many, many sons to glory, hallelujah!

And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot..
1 Peter 1:17-19 KJV

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News Item4/28/10 11:12 AM
Rick | Alabama  Contact via emailFind all comments by Rick
savedbygrace wrote:
Rick, Alabama,
This man was not Leonard Ravenhill, but of the same vintage - not fearing man and controlled by His Spirit. Whenever he spoke in church(I am not antagonistic to using notes per se)he spoke without notes. He read Scripture so much that he spoke Scripture in his sermons and all with a straight face set like flint. The Almighty Lord used him mightily.
I have a couple of Ravenhill's books and heard him in an interview. He was powerful and spoke without snares.
If you fellas remember, pray for me. I want to love the Lord my God, with all of my heart, soul, mind and strength!!! Beginning today I will write both you and John's names down and pray for you. Heb. 12:2
God gives us more me like the one you spoke of. I will pray for you, that God will give you a great anointing of his spirit. Please pray the same for me as I seek to pastor in a church that is slow to respond to the Word of God. There have been no conversions here in years. The word is going forth expositionaly, and doctrinaly, but we need God's power. God bless.
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News Item4/28/10 4:18 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Rick, Alabama,

This man was not Leonard Ravenhill, but of the same vintage - not fearing man and controlled by His Spirit. Whenever he spoke in church(I am not antagonistic to using notes per se)he spoke without notes. He read Scripture so much that he spoke Scripture in his sermons and all with a straight face set like flint. The Almighty Lord used him mightily.

I have a couple of Ravenhill's books and heard him in an interview. He was powerful and spoke without snares.

If you fellas remember, pray for me. I want to love the Lord my God, with all of my heart, soul, mind and strength!!! Beginning today I will write both you and John's names down and pray for you. Heb. 12:2

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News Item4/28/10 3:50 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
savedbygrace wrote:
John UK,
I believe the church today is in great need. Not just preachers who are teachers but men who are led by His Spirit.
I know of a man who is currently(though up in years)with a revival organization who had visited our church years ago. While staying at our pastor's house, pastor told me that he would only come out of his room once for a bite to eat and then return for prayer. Along with prayer, he had a custom that daily he would read "35 CHAPTERS OF SCRIPTURE" a day.
When God does revive the church, there won't be any guessing. We will know it for sure; men will not be engaged with talks about sports or even events concerning our children. We will be swallowed up in His glory and as the heart is so the mouth speaketh.
Histories on revival are convicting(I am guilty, myself). During the Welsh Revival, someone heard a disturbance out in the distance on their grounds in the middle of the night. After walking towards it they found a young person kneeling on the other side of the stone wall, alone engaged in fervent prayer.
An inspirational and edifying post, Bill. Men can polish their sermons as much as they like, they'll find nothing until such humility kicks in and God begins to work. Dear Lord!
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News Item4/27/10 3:54 PM
Rick | Alabama  Find all comments by Rick
savedbygrace wrote:
John UK,
I believe the church today is in great need. Not just preachers who are teachers but men who are led by His Spirit.
I know of a man who is currently(though up in years)with a revival organization who had visited our church years ago. While staying at our pastor's house, pastor told me that he would only come out of his room once for a bite to eat and then return for prayer. Along with prayer, he had a custom that daily he would read "35 CHAPTERS OF SCRIPTURE" a day.
When God does revive the church, there won't be any guessing. We will know it for sure; men will not be engaged with talks about sports or even events concerning our children. We will be swallowed up in His glory and as the heart is so the mouth speaketh.
Histories on revival are convicting(I am guilty, myself). During the Welsh Revival, someone heard a disturbance out in the distance on their grounds in the middle of the night. After walking towards it they found a young person kneeling on the other side of the stone wall, alone engaged in fervent prayer.
Thank you for sharing that. The visiting preacher souned like Leonard Ravenhill.
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News Item4/27/10 3:26 PM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
John UK,

I believe the church today is in great need. Not just preachers who are teachers but men who are led by His Spirit.
I know of a man who is currently(though up in years)with a revival organization who had visited our church years ago. While staying at our pastor's house, pastor told me that he would only come out of his room once for a bite to eat and then return for prayer. Along with prayer, he had a custom that daily he would read "35 CHAPTERS OF SCRIPTURE" a day.
When God does revive the church, there won't be any guessing. We will know it for sure; men will not be engaged with talks about sports or even events concerning our children. We will be swallowed up in His glory and as the heart is so the mouth speaketh.
Histories on revival are convicting(I am guilty, myself). During the Welsh Revival, someone heard a disturbance out in the distance on their grounds in the middle of the night. After walking towards it they found a young person kneeling on the other side of the stone wall, alone engaged in fervent prayer.

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News Item4/27/10 11:05 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
savedbygrace wrote:
Quotes or notes?
Though fillers are chillers.
It's the Spirit that matters.
With prayer - no fleshly chatters.
Michael, Jonathan Edwards, spent THREE entire days in constant prayer, fasting and deprived of any sleep. Those present stated that their was immediate conviction as soon as they saw Mr. Edwards as he arose from prayer and entered the pulpit, even before he uttered a word.
Curiously, some thankfully recorded by hand the sermons of old and one thing we notice is there is never any jokemaking.
The Welsh Revival began when two pastors met for prayer. I believe they agreed on two things. One was that they would never seek to joke around or entertain during a sermon!
David Brainerd engaged in fasting and prayer one day a week. Such was the case of Spurgeon and others who God used through His Spirit.
Good on yer Bill!

So far I've never found anyone interested in the sacrifice needful for making church services powerful and effective. Mention an all-night prayer meeting for revival and they all slink off, no doubt to watch TV or have a nice meal, or go on holiday.

p.s. I like your poems.

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News Item4/27/10 4:52 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Quotes or notes?
Though fillers are chillers.

It's the Spirit that matters.
With prayer - no fleshly chatters.

Michael, Jonathan Edwards, spent THREE entire days in constant prayer, fasting and deprived of any sleep. Those present stated that their was immediate conviction as soon as they saw Mr. Edwards as he arose from prayer and entered the pulpit, even before he uttered a word.

Curiously, some thankfully recorded by hand the sermons of old and one thing we notice is there is never any jokemaking.

The Welsh Revival began when two pastors met for prayer. I believe they agreed on two things. One was that they would never seek to joke around or entertain during a sermon!

David Brainerd engaged in fasting and prayer one day a week. Such was the case of Spurgeon and others who God used through His Spirit.

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News Item4/25/10 4:23 PM
graphw  Find all comments by graphw
fuzzy logic wrote:
Sermons are man-made inventions!
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip *PREACHING* the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.

*Preaching* in Greek is euaggelizō
From which we get "evangelise"

This Means....
"1) to bring good news, to announce glad tidings
a) used in the OT of any kind of good news

2) of the joyful tidings of God's kindness, in particular, of the Messianic blessings
a) in the NT used especially of the glad tidings of the coming kingdom of God, and of the salvation to be obtained in it through Christ, and of what relates to this salvation

b) glad tidings are brought to one, one has glad tidings proclaimed to him

c) to proclaim glad tidings

Also - to instruct (men) concerning the things that pertain to Christian salvation" (Blue Letter)

The term euaggelizō
Can also be used in Scripture for;
Preach
Preach the gospel
to shew
glad tidings/good tidings
etc

This is what "sermons" are used for.
To bring/teach the good news!

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News Item4/25/10 3:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Wordinreason, perhaps you're paid what your worth? People who work 40 (or more hours a week at being pastor, teachers, should be paid. They are not all like Paul, he did not ask for payment.

1 Corinthians 9
9 For it is written in the Law of Moses, "YOU SHALL NOT MUZZLE THE OX WHILE HE IS THRESHING." God is not concerned about oxen, is He?
10 Or is He speaking altogether for our sake? Yes, for our sake it was written, because the plowman ought to plow in hope, and the thresher to thresh in hope of sharing the crops.
11 If we sowed spiritual things in you, is it too much if we should reap material things from you?
12 If others share the right over you, do we not more? Nevertheless, we did not use this right, but we endure all things, that we may cause no hindrance to the gospel of Christ.
13 Do you not know that those who perform sacred services eat the food of the temple, and those who attend regularly to the altar have their share with the altar?---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

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News Item4/25/10 2:54 PM
Bible Logic  Find all comments by Bible Logic
fuzzy logic wrote:
Sermons are man-made
"PREACH v.i.L. proeco, a crier; precor.

1. To pronounce a public discourse on a religious subject, or from a subject, or from a text of Scripture. The word is usually applied to such discourses as are formed from a text of Scripture. This is the modern sense of preach.

2. To discourse on the gospel way of salvation and exhort to repentance; to discourse on evangelical truths and exhort to a belief of them and acceptance of the terms of salvation. This was the extemporaneous manner of preaching pursued by Christ and his apostles. Matt.4. 10. Acts 10. 14.

PREACH v.t. To proclaim; to publish in religious discourses.

What ye hear in the ear, that preach ye on the house-tops. Matt.10

The Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings to the meek. Is.61.

1. To inculcate in public discourses.

I have preached righteousness in the great congregations. Ps.40."
(KJV Dic)

Ecc 12:8 Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity. And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs. The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth"

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News Item4/25/10 2:26 PM
Joe the Protestant  Find all comments by Joe the Protestant
belletristic wrote:
Whilst we are discussing names Joe, can I just ask what the word you use "Protastant" means??
Is it similar to the word "Protestant" which refers to the Churches which protest against the Papists and their human religious philosophies?
Sorry about the mis spelling. But yes basicly I mean what you said. I just hope the question is not a set up. I may have been a little rough on Fuzzy, but those questions are genuine.
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News Item4/25/10 2:08 PM
belletristic  Find all comments by belletristic
Joe the Protastant wrote:
I guess I could have saved a lot of words and just simply said "the name you are using says it All"
Whilst we are discussing names Joe, can I just ask what the word you use "Protastant" means??

Is it similar to the word "Protestant" which refers to the Churches which protest against the Papists and their human religious philosophies?

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