Stupak Shot Down Last-Ditch Attempt to Include Own Abortion Funding Ban
In a baffling about-face, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) on Sunday fought against a last-ditch effort to insert his own abortion-funding ban in the reconciliation "fix" package for the Senate health care bill, which passed Sunday night.
The House subsequently struck down Rep. Dave Camp's (R-Mich.) attempt to pass Stupakâ€™s language 232-199.
While Camp referred to his proposal as the "Stupak-Pitts amendment," Stupak himself spoke against his Republican colleague's effort, saying it was an attempt to "politicize life" that merely "purports to be a right -to-life amendment." "This is nothing more than an opportunity to continue to deny 32 million Americans health insurance," he said....
TT wrote: We, as God's people are to submit ourselves to the governing authorities, even wicked ones. HOWEVER, there are some issues where the authority of man goes beyond what God has given. Health care for everyone, socialism: bad ideas at best, but not worth dying for. Killing babies: wicked--God WILL NOT tolerate this. This is a place to draw the line. May God have mercy on our souls as we Christians stand by and allow millions of baby to be sacrificed to the God's of progressivism and choice. Even so, Lord Jesus, come!!!
Can't draw a line through the middle of a corrupt idea. Healthcare for the uninsured with abortion coverage is totally bad. The leaven thing. The reason we or any nation with Christian population become more evil is that when lesser evils were foisted, Christians said "we are to submit to to the governing authorities, even wicked ones." Is lesser evil ever satisfied? Bad is followed by worse, and we see the results plainly. Can one submit long to wickedness and not become wicked?
"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
We, as God's people are to submit ourselves to the governing authorities, even wicked ones. HOWEVER, there are some issues where the authority of man goes beyond what God has given. Health care for everyone, socialism: bad ideas at best, but not worth dying for. Killing babies: wicked--God WILL NOT tolerate this. This is a place to draw the line. May God have mercy on our souls as we Christians stand by and allow millions of baby to be sacrificed to the God's of progressivism and choice. Even so, Lord Jesus, come!!!
Jim, I don't recall the 10th amendment being rescinded by the Civil War. If the Constitution is still the top law of the land, is the federal government bound by it? Or can the feds do anything illegal as long as it is in the name of some good?
Thomas Jefferson, 1791: "Aided by a little sophistry on the words "general welfare" [the federal branch claim] a right to do not only the acts to effect that which are specifically enumerated and permitted, but whatsoever they shall think or pretend will be for the general welfare."
One thing is obvious- the trashing started before Obama. He and his America-hating Democrat buddies are just better at it than anyone else has been.
Mike from NY, I think a lot of the state rights idea was settled by the Civil War. By the way, I believe the number of Attorney Generals suing about the health-care plan is around 13. The Attorney General of Nebraska is one of them.
I will point out a side note, my father never liked Social Security. He pointed out that he could have done better by saving them money himself. I never pointed out to him, he was more frugal in most, and he made more than most. So, anyway, he was no doubt correct. However, for the spend thrifts and/or those who didn't have as good as salary, they really needed something like Social Security. Now I do believe Social Security has with stood court challenges, and I wouldn't be surprised if the health-care law doesn't as well.
I happen to be an Independent, so I can be just as unhappy with Democrats, q.v. [URL=http://townhall.com/columnists/CalThomas/2010/03/18/israels_new_enemy_america]]]Israel's New Enemy: America?[/URL] as well as Republicans,[URL=http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1974005,00.html]]]Can the GOP Succeed by Running Against Health Care[/URL] . I am a so equal opportunity when it comes to jailing, be they Republicans, Democrats, or what ever.
Jim Lincoln wrote: The Republicans had years under Billy Clinton and Bumbling Bush to get a universal health care program more to their liking. They appear as nothing but as selfish obstructionists. It appears that it is a truism that the Republicans care about life while in the womb, and are completely indifferent about life after. Progressive Republicanism died out more than half a century ago, what's left one can wonder if it is worth resuscitating?
Jim, the problem is there is no authority under the Constitution for the government to run your healthcare choices. I realize that is no big deal for you, for any authority can do anything, even break the law, when Romans 13 1&2 is used to hide behind, but it is a problem for Americans with a small amount of American blood still in their veins. Nor, btw, is the idea Christian in any case. Can you find Scripture to back up government healthcare?
Let us hope for more, and deeper obstruction in the coming months. Not only obstruction, but repeal & replace. If you're comfortable defending the corruption that defines the Democrats, please continue. But you should know, they don't look any better because you point out the faults of the Republicans.