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FRONT PAGE  |  5/29/2020
SATURDAY, FEB 20, 2010  |  17 comments
Philip Ryken Named Wheaton's Next President
Officials at Wheaton College announced this morning that Philip Ryken, pastor of Tenth Presbyterian Church in Philadelphia, will become the next president of the college.

Ryken graduated from Wheaton in 1988, and received his M.Div. from Westminster Theological Seminary in 1992 and his doctorate in historical theology from the University of Oxford in 1995. He became a pastor at Tenth Presbyterian Church in 1995 and became the senior pastor in 2000 after James Boice died. He and his wife Elisabeth have five children. ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, I have no doubt he's a very good man, but is he of the Reformed mindset?
In the following two sermons Dr. Rugh used a book by a Reformed theologian to compare Dispensational and Covenantal hermeneutics
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=22815958409]]]The Covenants of Scripture, part 1[/URL] and [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=228151032188]]]The Covenants of Scripture, part 2[/URL] The following two PDF files especially the chart will be quite helpful in following the above sermons, Dispensationalists: [URL=http://www.pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice-%28Part1%29CovenantsandD.pdf]]]Covenants and Dispensations Part I by Thomas Ice (PDF)[/URL] (Short) and [URL=http://www.fbcaa.org/BibleStudies/collegesundayschool/Miscellaneous/DispensationChart.pdf]]]Summary of Dispensations and Covenants (PDF)[/URL] (This is quite good).

By the way, I think Reformed and conservative Presbyterians are Christian, just with some seriously mistaken ideas.

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News Item2/27/10 10:50 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Roger wrote:
Mike, you seem to have missed the whole point on why I commented in the first place. I read this news about Dr. Ryken for the first time on 2/22. I saw that the first 4 "comments: had nothing at all to do with the subject matter at hand. After reading the 4 "comments", I wrote what I did. I found it quite discouraging that I could not join in because of the first 4 comments which had noithing to do with the matter at hand. This, as I said earlier, happens quite often.
Please check for yourself how many comments dealt directly with the subject matter. The answer is 0 .
The first comment was in fact about Dr. Ryken, and included a link to a writing of his. That should have been enough to get the conversation going, even if it was not specifically about his Wheaton appointment. No one needs wait until it gets going before contributing. Someone needs to be first. Since you seem primarily the one most interested, logically it should have been you. Waiting to see where the comments go, then being disappointed in their direction, while not adding anything on the subject yourself that might draw the thread back to specifics, doesn't ring right. Does that make sense?
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News Item2/26/10 5:30 PM
Roger | Northeast  Find all comments by Roger
Mike, you seem to have missed the whole point on why I commented in the first place. I read this news about Dr. Ryken for the first time on 2/22. I saw that the first 4 "comments: had nothing at all to do with the subject matter at hand. After reading the 4 "comments", I wrote what I did. I found it quite discouraging that I could not join in because of the first 4 comments which had noithing to do with the matter at hand. This, as I said earlier, happens quite often.

Please check for yourself how many comments dealt directly with the subject matter. The answer is 0 .

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News Item2/26/10 2:57 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Roger wrote:
Thanks for adding your opinion, Rick. Please understand me, I realize that these forums are different than many other forums in that they pertain to God, the Bible, etc. As I said earlier, there may very well be others who would like to respond to the "subject matter at hand", rather than read about the same few people arguing, etc. about something that has nothing at all to do with the subject at hand.
I, myself wanted to share with others, the fact that Dr. Ryken, a great man of God, whom I really enjoy hearing, is leaving Tenth Pres., etc.
I hope that everyone understands why I said what I did.
Thanks again, Rick, for giving me another opportunity to convey exactly why I wrote the 1st. article.
May God bless ALL of us as we use this forum from time to time!
Roger, there have been 13 comments(until this one) in total on this Wheaton thread over the last 5 days. Surely there has been sufficient time and space for you to "share with others" how you feel about Dr. Ryken. In what way have you been hindered from doing so?
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News Item2/26/10 1:19 PM
Roger | Northeast  Find all comments by Roger
Thanks for adding your opinion, Rick. Please understand me, I realize that these forums are different than many other forums in that they pertain to God, the Bible, etc. As I said earlier, there may very well be others who would like to respond to the "subject matter at hand", rather than read about the same few people arguing, etc. about something that has nothing at all to do with the subject at hand.

I, myself wanted to share with others, the fact that Dr. Ryken, a great man of God, whom I really enjoy hearing, is leaving Tenth Pres., etc.

I hope that everyone understands why I said what I did.

Thanks again, Rick, for giving me another opportunity to convey exactly why I wrote the 1st. article.

May God bless ALL of us as we use this forum from time to time!

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News Item2/26/10 1:17 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Rick wrote:
This article is about Phillip Ryken's oppointment to Weaton. I think it is a great decision.
Rogers point is well said concerning people who monopolize these forums. I belive the point he was making, is that the same people get so far off trac from the artice, and start, and maintain so many length arguments, that people weary of them. There may be a proper forum for these discussions. But when people read one of the articles posted, they would like to see comments pertainant the actual article.
Instead, what they find, is the same people arguing a secondary, tertiary, or even an irrelevent points. It's obvious by the people who were arguing with Roger's point.
Isn't it obvious, that this is the reason the moderators have to close topics. They have stated this on many forums. Please my friends, think about this. If it continues, they may have to stop allowing any posts at all. I am blessed by many well thought out posts. I hope it does not have to stop because of simple stubborness form those who will not take councel. And if you feel like you must argue with me about this, I won't respond to it.
I agree! Now Rick, please keep to the topic in future.
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News Item2/26/10 11:48 AM
Rick | Alabama  Find all comments by Rick
This article is about Phillip Ryken's oppointment to Weaton. I think it is a great decision.
Rogers point is well said concerning people who monopolize these forums. I belive the point he was making, is that the same people get so far off trac from the artice, and start, and maintain so many length arguments, that people weary of them. There may be a proper forum for these discussions. But when people read one of the articles posted, they would like to see comments pertainant the actual article.
Instead, what they find, is the same people arguing a secondary, tertiary, or even an irrelevent points. It's obvious by the people who were arguing with Roger's point.
Isn't it obvious, that this is the reason the moderators have to close topics. They have stated this on many forums. Please my friends, think about this. If it continues, they may have to stop allowing any posts at all. I am blessed by many well thought out posts. I hope it does not have to stop because of simple stubborness form those who will not take councel. And if you feel like you must argue with me about this, I won't respond to it.
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News Item2/25/10 3:40 PM
prince charles | anglesey wales  Find all comments by prince charles
yes indeed jim, a good synopsis, it was one of the anglican bishops, it might even have been ryle who said he took great pleasure in occasionaly meeting a christian !

the present and historical condition of the 'universal' church has been so deplorable that its one of the reasons why i find the doctrine of election such a comfort, it doesnt matter what kind of a mess the church is in the elect will always be brought to the truth, in a way you could say that its yet another way that our great God brings glory to himself or put another way, allthings glorify God even the church !

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News Item2/25/10 2:29 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Prince Charles, the really important part of the remark from Charles Spurgeon was, "...Then the State Church, which the great reformers had planted, and which some of them had watered with their blood, presented the spectacle which went far to justify the sarcasm of an eminent writer, that she possessed'"A Popish Liturgy, a Calvinistic Creed, and an Arminian Clergy."' from the URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/spurgeon/dg01.htm]]]The Down Grade[/URL]. In fact, I wouldn't even say Arminians are NOT Christians, I would say do to the nature of [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism]]]Anglicanism[/URL] it never as Christian, and had precious few Christians ever in it. It never has been a Christian Church, [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Dissenters]]]English Dissenters[/URL] had many good reasons to separate themselves from this bast*** child of Christianity.
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News Item2/23/10 7:47 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Roger wrote:
It is very discouraging that the same couple of people monopolize these forums. They seem to be the same couple of people who monopolize many other forums as well. Just look at their "forum history". Some of what they say, I agree with, but that's besides the point. My self, as well as others are in all liklihood hindred from posting here. It could be a great forum!
No one is hindered from posting here. If you have something to say, and do it according to the rules, you will be posted.
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News Item2/23/10 6:18 AM
princecharles | anglesey uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by princecharles
Roger wrote:
It is very discouraging that the same couple of people monopolize these forums. My self, as well as others are in all liklihood hindred from posting here. It could be a great forum!
This is a great forum and the only one i go on !

I dont think you are correct to say a couple of people dominate here , there are a number who post more than others from time to time and people come and go but there is nothing stopping anyone else doing likewise.

I would say generally people on this forum are quite knowlegable and will have carefully considered positions so its a good teaching resource but it can be a cruel place for the careless ! (I know !) and most of the people and sermons are reformed so if one is not of that persuasion it could be off putting

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News Item2/22/10 5:16 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
prince charles wrote:
you are right in so far as calvinism was removed from the anglican church and Ryle was in the anglican church but his outlook was soundly calvinist
for instance his view on evangelism was that the church was not called to convert the world but to bring in the elect and be a home to them..
It's true, and not only true but incredible. A study of the Anglican Main Agenda, the Book of Common Prayer, will reveal that for any man to be ordained into the Anglican clergy, he must covenant to "seek out the sheep of Jesus, find them, and bring them in". Or some such words. The meaning is plain to a FFF man: the minister is to be like Jesus, seeking and saving that which is lost, namely "lost sheep", namely "God's elect" currently lost and living in sin, having not heard the gospel as yet, but who, having heard it, will respond in faith, having enlightenment of the Holy Ghost, and with repentance, having the conviction of sin by the Holy Ghost, and will come to Christ as needy sinners, calling upon his name for forgiveness, having heard a powerful and effectual call, both outwardly with the ear, and inwardly with that spiritual faculty designed to understand spiritual things, which faculty is quickened etc etc.
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News Item2/22/10 5:07 PM
Roger | Northeast  Find all comments by Roger
It is very discouraging that the same couple of people monopolize these forums. They seem to be the same couple of people who monopolize many other forums as well. Just look at their "forum history". Some of what they say, I agree with, but that's besides the point. My self, as well as others are in all liklihood hindred from posting here. It could be a great forum!
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News Item2/22/10 4:43 PM
prince charles | anglesey wales  Find all comments by prince charles
Jim Lincoln wrote:
J.C. Ryle, and some others may very have well been Christians, but as,
from
you are right in so far as calvinism was removed from the anglican church and Ryle was in the anglican church but his outlook was soundly calvinist

for instance his view on evangelism was that the church was not called to convert the world but to bring in the elect and be a home to them

you might say that with regard to the anglican churches present apostasy that the difference between ryle and his companions and the rest of the AC could be seen today in the difference between conservatives and liberals only of course to a greater degree of downgrading

that being said i meet the occasional conservative AC man the church still contains some sound believers even young ones

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News Item2/22/10 2:12 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
J.C. Ryle, and some others may very have well been Christians, but as,

Charles Spurgeon wrote:
Calvinism was banished from the Church of England, excepting so far as the Articles were concerned. Arminianism took its place. Then the State Church, which the great reformers had planted, and which some of them had watered with their blood, presented the spectacle which went far to justify the sarcasm of an eminent writer, that she possessed "A Popish Liturgy, a Calvinistic Creed, and an Arminian Clergy." The ejected were Calvinists almost to a man.
from [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/spurgeon/dg01.htm]]]The Down Grade[/URL] I would think with that deadly brew, and note, while not an Arminian, I wouldn't deny that many are Christians, but with that combination one could say to Anglicans as well as Catholics, [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/roman-catholicism/RC0200W2.htm]]]Come out of the Catholic Church[/URL] and the Anglican one, and [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/roman-catholicism/RC1001W1.htm]]]Staying in Hope of Changing the Church[/URL] is a futile gesture and detrimental to the Christian who does it.
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News Item2/21/10 8:43 PM
jkb | KC USA  Contact via emailFind all comments by jkb
Wasn't J.C. Ryle "a Christian"?
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News Item2/21/10 4:51 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I am rather surprised, I expected wishy-washy Presbyterian at best, but from at least from one of his writings, [URL=http://www.inplainsite.org/html/three_kinds_of_pluralism.html]]]How Can Jesus Be the Only Way?[/URL], he seems to be in harmony with the Gospel much more so than Billy Graham! I suppose only two things I find wrong with the article (I'll leave it up to others to find more, ) He called an Anglican Bishop "a Christian," and at the end of the article stated "If those disciples were right," But all in all a good essay.
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