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FRONT PAGE  |  10/19/2019
SUNDAY, JAN 3, 2010  |  16 comments
Court: Allah not exclusive to Islam
The High Court in a landmark ruling today, declared that the word ‘Allah’ was not exclusive to Islam and allowed Catholic newsletter ‘The Herald’ to use the word ‘Allah’ in its publication to refer to God.

High Court judge Datuk Lau Bee Lan also declared that an order by the Home Minister banning the use of the word as illegal, null and void.


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News Item1/6/10 10:36 AM
Dic  Find all comments by Dic
Michael Hranek wrote:
Still I am curious is there an arabic word for Jehovah? Who is of course the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob not the god of Abraham Ishmael and Mohammed.
Michael
I wonder if it is realistic to ask this question about "Jehovah" since it comes from the tetragrammaton (four letters)(YHWH) which the Hebrews were said to use because they would not pronounce the name of God?

The vowels were said by some to have been added by the Massorettes to give Yahweh or Jehovah?

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News Item1/5/10 5:40 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Dic wrote:
Michael
Here is the reason for my previous post question.
[URL=http://www.carm.org/christianity/christian-doctrine/jehovah-jesus]]]Jehovah is Jesus[/URL]
or
[URL=http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil//articles/deity.htm]]]Who is Jehovah. Who is Jesus.[/URL]
or
[URL=http://www.forananswer.org/Top_JW/JesusJehovah.htm]]]Jesus is Yahweh[/URL]
Dic
Thanks for the post back.
I missunderstood you. I thought you were attempting to draw me into calling Jehovah God and by the way He is the Only True and Living God....Allah is not.

Still I am curious is there an arabic word for Jehovah? Who is of course the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob not the god of Abraham Ishmael and Mohammed.

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News Item1/5/10 5:37 PM
Dic  Find all comments by Dic
Michael Hranek wrote:
Dic
Let me ask you again is there an arabic word for Jehovah (Yahweh)?
Michael
Here is the reason for my previous post question.

[URL=http://www.carm.org/christianity/christian-doctrine/jehovah-jesus]]]Jehovah is Jesus[/URL]

or

[URL=http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil//articles/deity.htm]]]Who is Jehovah. Who is Jesus.[/URL]

or

[URL=http://www.forananswer.org/Top_JW/JesusJehovah.htm]]]Jesus is Yahweh[/URL]

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News Item1/5/10 4:59 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Dic wrote:
Michael;
Who is Jehovah?
Dic
Let me ask you again is there an arabic word for Jehovah (Yahweh)?
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News Item1/5/10 4:59 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
The Moon God
“Allah” is from the compound Arabic word “al-ilah” or in english “the god”. Allah was known before Muhammad’s time without a doubt. His name has been found in pre-islamic writings and other archeological finds. At the Kabah in Mecca over 350 gods were worshipped, but it was built especially for the chief deity - the moon god. Allah was the personal title of the moon god. Allah was married to the sun goddess. They produced three daughters, whose worship Muhammad would later make the mistake of condoning. The crescent moon symbol of Arabia came from this god.
Muhammad’s family revered this particular god, and it is this idol that Muhammad declared to be the only true god. So, Allah - far from being the revealed God of the Bible as Muhammad would have us believe - is nothing more than an amplified pagan idol. Muhammad did not re-make the pagan god, he simply removed the lower deities from the rites of worship. That is why he never had to explain who Allah was. By definition, an idol converted in the 7th century into a new god cannot be the same God revealed thousands of years earlier to Biblical prophets."

[URL=http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com ]]]FROM[/URL]

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News Item1/5/10 4:45 PM
Dic  Find all comments by Dic
Michael Hranek wrote:
So let me ask you a question is there an arabic word for Jehovah (Yahweh)?
Michael;
Who is Jehovah?
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News Item1/5/10 4:08 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Dic wrote:
Really?
"Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God". The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for 'God' than 'Allah'. (Even the Arabic-descended Maltese language of Malta, whose population is almost entirely Roman Catholic, uses Alla for 'God'.) Arab Christians for example use terms Allāh al-ʼab (لله الأب]meaning God the father, Allāh al-ibn الله الابن] mean God the son, and Allāh al-rūḥ al-quds (لله الروح القدس] meaning God the Holy Spirit (See God in Christianity for the Christian concept of God)."
Dic
Really?
Looks like Christians have to go a bit further than merely saying Allah to allow hearers to know they are not speaking of the same diety as the Muslims....now Roman Catholics that might be another story.

So let me ask you a question is there an arabic word for Jehovah (Yahweh)?

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News Item1/5/10 2:22 PM
Dic  Find all comments by Dic
Michael Hranek wrote:
Allah is the name Muslims give their false god. Whereras Jehovah (or Yahweh) is the name (among many names) God Identifies Himself to us in Scripture.
Really?

"Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God". The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for 'God' than 'Allah'. (Even the Arabic-descended Maltese language of Malta, whose population is almost entirely Roman Catholic, uses Alla for 'God'.) Arab Christians for example use terms Allāh al-ʼab (لله الأب]meaning God the father, Allāh al-ibn الله الابن] mean God the son, and Allāh al-rūḥ al-quds (لله الروح القدس] meaning God the Holy Spirit (See God in Christianity for the Christian concept of God)."

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News Item1/5/10 1:04 PM
Dic  Find all comments by Dic
Michael Hranek wrote:
The word "Allah" comes from the compound Arabic word, al-ilah. Al is the definite article "the" and ilah is an Arabic word for "god".
Allah is the name Muslims give their false god. Whereras Jehovah (or Yahweh) is the name (among many names) God Identifies Himself to us in Scripture.
In terms of language rather than theology.

Etymology
Allah : "1702, Arabic name for the Supreme Being, from Arabic Allahu, contr. of al-Ilahu, from al "the" + Ilah "God," rel. to Heb. Elohim."

"ALLAH, the Arabic name used by Moslems of all nationalities for the one true God. It is compounded of al, the definite article, and ilah, meaning a god. The same word is found in Hebrew and Aramaic as well as in ancient Arabic (Sabaean)."

"The notion of Allah in Arabic theology is substantially the same as that of God among the Jews, and also among the Christians, with the exception of the Trinity, which is positively excluded in the Koran, cxii: "Say God, is one God, the eternal God, he begetteth not, neither is he begotten and there is not any one like unto him."

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News Item1/4/10 7:01 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
John Paul's wife wrote:
Simple question here, what exactly is the translation of the word "God" into Arabic?
John Paul's wife
Excuse me while I disagree a bit with Dic.

The word "Allah" comes from the compound Arabic word, al-ilah. Al is the definite article "the" and ilah is an Arabic word for "god".

Allah is the name Muslims give their false god. Whereras Jehovah (or Yahweh) is the name (among many names) God Identifies Himself to us in Scripture.

Having said this I am almost certain there will be experts who both disagree and agree so let me make clear Christians should in no way associate the Only True and Living God, His Name, His Identity with that of any false god whatsoever. Yes, I know there are other jesuses that are false but in this case the Allah of Mohammed is a false god from the very start of Islam.

Think about it would you want to call Jehovah by the name Satan?

And while I am editting my post...let me ask you what do you think about Catholics and Muslims worshipping the same god?

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News Item1/4/10 5:39 PM
Dic  Find all comments by Dic
John Paul's wife wrote:
Simple question here, what exactly is the translation of the word "God" into Arabic?
[URL=http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_God_in_Arabic_language]]]Allah[/URL]
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News Item1/4/10 5:13 PM
John Paul's wife  Find all comments by John Paul's wife
Simple question here, what exactly is the translation of the word "God" into Arabic?
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News Item1/3/10 4:59 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
There is simply no way that Christians should use the name of the false god of a murderous thieving demon-possessed pedophile's god, 'Allah', for God, that would be the Only True and Living God, Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The False Religion of the Roman Catholic Church has gotten it heartbreakingly wrong on who God is that they somehow imagine they and the Muslims worship the same "God"...and perhaps in their error they really do.

QUOTING
From Catechism of the Catholic Church
Officially Approved by Pope John Paul II

841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”
END OF QUOTE

There is simply no way that Jesus Christ our Creator is Allah and no way that Allah had his non-existant son (Muslims will tell us that Allah doesn't have a son does he) to die on a cross for the sins of mankind. And the leadership of the Roman Catholic Religioun has grieveously erred on the very identity of God...and this 'imaginary false god of Roman Catholicism' isn't going to save a singel soul.

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News Item1/3/10 4:01 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
[URL=http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Newton/allah.html]]]Allah: is He God?[/URL] By the way, don't give

[URL=http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm]]]Muhammad[/URL] don't give him a hand on this one!

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News Item1/3/10 12:04 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Keleran wrote:
"She said that pursuant to Article 11(4) of the Federal Constitution, it is an offence for non-Muslims to use the word 'Allah' to Muslims to propagate the religion. But it is not an offence for non-Muslims to use the word to non-Muslims for the purpose of religion, she added."

Trust the papists to be just as confused as the muslims.
Perhaps all ah doesn't mean all ah, but only some ah, in keeping with desired outcome.
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News Item1/3/10 11:41 AM
Keleran  Find all comments by Keleran
"She said that pursuant to Article 11(4) of the Federal Constitution, it is an offence for non-Muslims to use the word 'Allah' to Muslims to propagate the religion. But it is not an offence for non-Muslims to use the word to non-Muslims for the purpose of religion, she added."

Trust the papists to be just as confused as the muslims.

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