"Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor." That's what Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan said about America before he and possibly other Muslim soldiers at Fort Hood shot 43 fellow soldiers, killing 12, who were returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.
"He said Muslims had a right to attack" the U.S., said Col. Terry Lee, who worked with Hasan at the Texas post, where the devout Sunni Muslim refused deployment. "He said Muslims shouldn't be fighting Muslims," he added. "He was very clear on that."
Shockingly, a growing number of other Muslim American soldiers as well as civilian contractors have put their religion before their duty. Some like Hasan have killed, or tried to kill, their fellow soldiers. Others have infiltrated the military in order to undermine it and aid and comfort the enemy.
According to an explosive new book, "Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That's Conspiring to...
JohnYurich “A Christian is someone who was Baptized but has not received Jesus as their Personal Savior and Lord.”
This is what you get to when you elevate church ordinances/ traditions, above Jesus. You redefine a “Christian” relative to a church ordinance, not relative to Christ. There is only one Christian, it is NOT conferred by the church, the church merely affirms it. A Christian is a follower of Christ. To the degree that Christ remains Lord over you, you remain a Christian. You can renounce Christ and you no longer are a Christian. It’s is a term that IDENTIFIES a relationship – ongoing - to Christ as God and Savior. What of “Nominal Christians” then? In the first instance, NC’s have to have professed a faith in Christ, which precedes their baptism, (which IS a born again experience). NC’s may not mature in their faith and some may susequenly fall off all together. In any even, one is defined by a relationship to Christ on an ongoing basis still. If what you said is the outcome of infant baptism, then it is worse yet. Is a baby a Christian? If the Church makes it one, doe’s it continue to be one even as it grows up and doesn’t give a hoot about Christ? Is this the Christless Christian that the church Begget for which it has to redefine Christian to accommodate?
John UK wrote: The word you are looking for is 'nominal Christians', John. Nominal meaning 'in name only'. In the UK there are tens of thousands of nominal Christians who are still lost in their sins. Many of these are Anglicans (Church of England).
You are correct that I should have utilized the word nominal Christians.
John Yurich USA wrote: I never have stated that Baptism imparts salvation. Baptism is totally superfluous to salvation. And I have never stated that the Christian label in and of itself apart from Jesus saves. I was just stating that there are Christians and Born Again Christians.
The word you are looking for is 'nominal Christians', John. Nominal meaning 'in name only'. In the UK there are tens of thousands of nominal Christians who are still lost in their sins. Many of these are Anglicans (Church of England).
CV wrote: Huh???? Gasp! Say what??? A Christian without Christ???? Baptism saves, sans Christ??? Or, the "Christian" label in and of itself, apart from Christ, saves? Ummm, oh dear!!!! How did we end up here?
I never have stated that Baptism imparts salvation. Baptism is totally superfluous to salvation. And I have never stated that the Christian label in and of itself apart from Jesus saves. I was just stating that there are Christians and Born Again Christians. Christians are individuals who were Baptized(Just as a dedication to Jesus and not for salvation) into the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church and Mainline Protestant Churches but have never received Jesus as their Personal Savior and Lord. Born Again Christians are individuals who are Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Mainline Protestant and Evangelical Protestant who have received Jesus as their Personal Savior and Lord.
The mighty Romans sat in their senate discussing what could be done about the barbarian threat. They did not know that they were sitting next to some of them.
Although outnumbered, Islamic terrorists are smart--and patient. They take an indirect approach to their planning. Five years or more is worth a successful attack.
Want some good models to follow? Two come to mind. PAST-the Old West. PRESENT-the Israeli army. Terrorists aren't treated well in Israel. That would be merciful compared to the Old West. Radical? Too intense? Well, I suppose we could continue down the path of make-believe (PC nonsense).
Talking and reasoning with terrorists is useless. The only thing they understand and respect is force.
Of course, it is my firm belief that this trouble is a direct result of America's turning from God and the Bible.
CV wrote: Tony Cisnerros, a bible Christian who believes, has been warning us about the dangers of Islam. Our government and civil agencies are too concerned about muslim sensitivities to honestly and publicly deal with the muslim threat.
CV: #1.My Last Name ONLY Has One "r" !
#2.I Do NOT Equivocate On The FACT That SATANIC-MOHAMMEDANISM (That Is Hellish, Diabolical & SATANIC-VATICAN Spawned "ISLAM") Is NO DIFFERENT Than [In FACT, It's A Religious HARLOT-DAUGHTER Of The GREAT POLITICAL-RELIGIOUS WHORE Of SATANIC-VATICANISM]: ROMAN-"CATHOLICISM" !
BOTH Have Each ENSLAVED Over 2 BILLION Human Souls To Their EVIL FALSE RELIGIONS !
Yet, THE SATANIC-VATICAN (THE WHORE OF REVELATION 17&18) TODAY Has Craftily Used The Historic "PROTESTANT" Nations Of ENGLAND, THE U.S.A., AUSTRALIA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, ETC.; To Fight HER So-Called "CRUSADE" & "HOLY WAR" Of TERRORISM Against HER Historic RELIGIOUS-RIVAL (Or HARLOT-DAUGHTER-Gone-Independent Of MOTHER-WHORE Since The 700s AD) : ROMAN-"CATHOLICISM" !
Especially, On The STATUS Of Who OWNS-CONTROLS-OVERSEES The City Of JERUSALEM, Israel !
*CV, I WON'T Be Your, Or MYSTERY-"MAGISTERIUM" BABYLON THE GREAT'S, Puppet In Pushing A GLOBAL WAR Of "MOHAMMEDANS-MOHAMMEDANISM" VERSUS "CHRISTIANITY-CHRISTIANS" !
John Yurich USA wrote: Obama is a Christian but is not a Born Again Christian. There is a difference. A Christian is someone who was Baptized but has not received Jesus as their Personal Savior and Lord.
Not quite, John. Jesus said you must be born again... His rules supercede all men's rules and church tradition. If one is not born again, one is not a Christian. Baptizing doesn't make anyone a Christian, either.
Now don't knock poor old Obama Mike! He's just the same as all free willers, working their own ticket. Like RCC, JW, Liberals, Arminian and those who are, but reject the title too.
Obama is a Christian but is not a Born Again Christian. There is a difference. A Christian is someone who was Baptized but has not received Jesus as their Personal Savior and Lord. A Born Again Christian is someone who has received Jesus as their Personal Savior and Lord.
John Yurich USA wrote: Where do you get the idea that Obama is a Muslim? There is no proof whatsover that Obama is a Muslim. Obama does not attend any Muslim Mosque. Obama only attends church.
cv wrote: You'd have to start with Obama. Isn't it amazing that whenever Islam raises it's ugly head, the first directive from the government and media is to tell us that it is not Islam. That these are "isolated" and "unconnected" events. Mosques fall under special protection as Obama calls CAIR - that all American un-American organization resolved to institute Islamic rule - to denounce the shooting. But first, Obama and the gang do lunch. As long as Muslims initiate terror, CAIR & the likes always call for peace and calm immediately after because they don't want reprisals. As long as they get the first punch in. Calm and peace is expected to follow forthwith. However, if they feel offended they are quick to go on a rampage. Allah is the best schemer
Where do you get the idea that Obama is a Muslim? There is no proof whatsover that Obama is a Muslim. Obama does not attend any Muslim Mosque. Obama only attends church.
This is like some of those great biblical stories about great and powerful, but idolatrous nations, that believe they could not possibly be brought down (or at least, cannot perceive how it could happen) according to the prophetic utterances against them, and so continue heedless in their same course. Pardon my cynicism, and we can only pray that ours does not, contrary to all of the signs, follow suit, but I just love the shock factor. People are different; we simply refuse to acknowledge it.
John Yurich USA wrote: Correct. All Muslims should have their United States citizenship taken away from them and kicked out of this country.
You'd have to start with Obama.
Isn't it amazing that whenever Islam raises it's ugly head, the first directive from the government and media is to tell us that it is not Islam. That these are "isolated" and "unconnected" events. Mosques fall under special protection as Obama calls CAIR - that all American un-American organization resolved to institute Islamic rule - to denounce the shooting. But first, Obama and the gang do lunch.
As long as Muslims initiate terror, CAIR & the likes always call for peace and calm immediately after because they don't want reprisals. As long as they get the first punch in. Calm and peace is expected to follow forthwith. However, if they feel offended they are quick to go on a rampage. Allah is the best schemer
Any more incidents like the one involving Major Malik should cause even the more liberal among us to consider what their biggest hero, FDR, did to Japanese Americans during WWII.
Tony Cisnerros, a bible Christian who believes, has been warning us about the dangers of Islam. Our government and civil agencies are too concerned about muslim sensitivities to honestly and publicly deal with the muslim threat.
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