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SUNDAY, NOV 8, 2009  |  27 comments
Priests Spar Over What it Means to Be Catholic
The leaders of the Roman Catholic Church traditionally couch even the harshest disagreements in decorous, ecclesiastical language. But it didn't take a decoder ring to figure out what Rome-based Archbishop Raymond Burke meant in a late-September address when he charged Boston Cardinal Seán O'Malley with being under the influence of Satan, "the father of lies."

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News Item11/10/09 2:32 PM
Sherlock  Find all comments by Sherlock
Attention all RCC club members.....
just thought that GG should be made aware that although GG said that George Soros owns "Georgetown" university....
I really think based on GG's past postings that a Play on words was what was meant......
Now Members remember that "GOOGLE "is your Friend.
.................................
Catholic and Jesuit identity
Georgetown's Catholic and Jesuit identity
Educating the whole person.
Service and social justice
Volunteerism and outreach.
Spirituality and ministries
Diverse faiths, services, and opportunities.
please go the site for review......

at Google .type in george soros+ vatican+georgetown university or some combo of like names

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News Item11/10/09 1:25 PM
June  Find all comments by June
GG, Don't look now but the Vatican's Tin-foil helmet is showing.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Gabriel_Funes

Interview: Fr. José Gabriel Funes
Extraterrestrials

In an interview in May 2008[1] he stated that the possible existence of intelligent extraterrestrials did not contradict church teaching[2][3] and ruling out the existence of aliens would be like "putting limits" on God's creative freedom.[4] He has speculated that such alien life forms could even be “free from Original Sin … [remaining] in full friendship with their creator.”[5] Funes' statements have clearly similar points to what the Vatican's Corrado Balducci also previously has expressed.

1. ^ Full text of L'Osservatore Romano inteview translated into English.
2. ^ L'Osservatore Romano: The extraterrestrial is my brother, Vatican astronomer says believing in aliens does not contradict faith in God.
3. ^ "Vatican says aliens could exist". BBC. 13 May 2008. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7399661.stm. Retrieved 13 May 2008.
4. ^ "It's OK To Believe in Aliens". Associated Press. 13 may 2008. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jNDAezCCDKzEJpnyPFSj7IVCvwawD90KV2VG0. Retrieved 14 may 2008.
5.^ mental_floss Blog » “Aliens Are Our Brothers,” say

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News Item11/10/09 10:00 AM
Sherlock  Find all comments by Sherlock
To all RCC club members.....

A classic example of Roman Catholic doublespeak. Cardinals speaking out publicly against homosexuality while privately engaging in systematic coverup of rampant sexual abuse committed by their clergy. Though this article is from 2005, this continues to be the modus operandi of the R.C. hierarchy, as revealed in more recent court cases, i.e. (R.C. Diocese of Bridgeport), which are documented at Abuse Tracker.

Link to this article:
http://www.onlinejournal.co/TheocracyAlert/html/092705seesholtz.html

The Roman Catholic Church of Corruption
By Mel Seesholtz, Ph.D.

"The larger than usual headline of the Philadelphia Inquirer lastThursday read, “An ‘Immoral’ Cover-up.” A grand jury indicted the Philadelphia archdiocese in a 418-page report detailing rampant pedophilia and sexual abuse as well as decades of well planned, sinister cover-up orchestrated by two Philadelphia cardinals, (the late) John Krol and (recently retired) Anthony Bevilacqua. Krol was and Bevilacqua is an outspoken critic of homosexuality and civil rights for gay and lesbian Americans."

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News Item11/10/09 4:20 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Bert,

I have been visiting and commenting on S.A. for almost 2 years now and if you go back during that period you will see G.G. kept repeating the same Roman doctrines that had already been most soundly rebutted. It is all written down for you

But, for your interest here is one that I do not believe was mentioned. Rome of course gives tradition(which has many forms, btw)equal authority with Holy Scripture. One of the highest forms of its tradition are the church fathers. In regards to apostolic succession they of course cite, Irenaeus, as a primary source.

However, he definitely cannot be trusted because he stated in his,"Against Heresies", that BOTH Paul and Peter founded the church at Rome!
How does Rome deal with this? They simply state that HE WAS IN ERROR on that point but when it serves to further their cult they of course say he was not in error.
Of course, Irenaeus was in error before such as when he stated that Jesus did not die until he was in his fifties!

You should really spend the time to research how G.G. was rebutted a year or two back over and over but he kept on repeating the same old speal.

Bert, do you see how oral tradition cannot be trusted and only God's written revelation. TRADITION IS NOT INSPIRED BY GOD but GOD'S HOLY WORD IS!

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News Item11/9/09 8:22 PM
Sherlock  Find all comments by Sherlock
GG and Company.
I must say the Rcc roman catholic club
starts to get very confusing don't you agree?
........................................

May 2009
You are currently browsing the monthly archive for May 2009.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/SOD/j080sdLeoII_6-3.htm
.

“The source of truth is Revelation, that is Scriptures and Tradition.

There are Councils that taught dogmas, Vatican Council I, for instance, which promulgated the dogma of Papal Infallibility. In such case, we have the obligation to accept this truth without discussion because of the infallible power Jesus Christ gave to the Sovereign Pontiff to teach and guide the Church.”
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f002ht_BadPopesPCO.htm

Referring to Pope Honorius, St. Leo II wrote that “instead of purifying this Apostolic Church, he permitted the immaculate to be maculated by a profane .. When I tell priests and laity that I will never attend an ecumenical service, that I will never go along with all the liturgical abuses that are part and parcel of the new Mass (”new” being a clue in itself – see above) they tell me I’ve started my own religion. You are either with the Pope or against him, they argue. Why do they think like that? It’s not Catholic.
are there more then 1 RCC
continu

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News Item11/9/09 6:19 PM
Sherlock  Find all comments by Sherlock
Attention

G G and Company......
Now it seems that since GG brought George Soros's name into the mix and now GG is learning about George.
it seems as though he plays all sides of the fence one could say.He is as noted in a previous post that he is the court Jew to the pope lets call that
"right " of center catholic s.....then
here in this article he works for the "left"of center catholic s...
.....................................
Of particular interest to Catholics is the fact that Soros has been financially generous with two left-wing Catholic organizations who supported Barack Obama– Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good and Catholics United. These two organizations played a key role in misguiding Catholics by masking Obama’s pro-abortion views and record. It has been reported that in 2006 alone, Soros gave $100,000 to Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good.
...............................
now the only question is who supplies George with the "cash "?????

GG ..triple "Checkmate"...oh what a club you belong to .

The list of George Soros’ tentacles involving long-standing “progressive” anti-life, and anti-family social programs is quite lengthy.

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News Item11/9/09 2:25 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Well, of course, the Apostle Peter was never in Rome, see the Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown commentary for [URL=http://www.biblestudytools.com/Commentaries/JamiesonFaussetBrown/jfb.cgi?book=1pe&chapter=005]]]I John 1-14[/URL], from the comment on verse 13,
JFB Commentary wrote:
CLEMENT OF ROME [First Epistle to the Corinthians, 4.5], often quoted for, is really against it. He mentions Paul and Peter together, but makes it as a distinguishing circumstance of Paul, that he preached both in the East and West, implying that Peter never was in the West. In 2 Peter 1:14, he says, "I must shortly put off this tabernacle," implying his martyrdom was near, yet he makes no allusion to Rome, or any intention of his visiting it.
Many reasons why [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/roman-catholicism/RC2W0601.pdf]]]Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses[/URL] have more in common with each other than they do with Christians!
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News Item11/9/09 11:22 AM
WayneM | northwest B.C.  Find all comments by WayneM
Bert,

The reason RCs are not saved is because there cannot be any true conversion without a knowledge of one's depravity on the one hand and Jesus Christ's work of redemption on the other. Those who believe and follow Romanism are believing a series of big lies. One example is the lie that one must atone for his own sins by participating in the Mass which claims to be an offering for sin. Man cannot ever make an atonement for his own sins. That is why God sent His Son into the world. Only Christ has the qualifications to act as a substitute for sinful man and pay the penalty, which he did.

The only thing that can atone for sins was and is blood.

"For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." Leviticus 17:11

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." Hebrews 9:22

Christ is the only saviour, not the RCC, not sacraments, not going to an earthly priest because there are none in the sense of offering sacrifice for sins today. Until this false system is rejected, and Christ is accepted as the one and only sacrifice for sins there is NO salvation. There is none other.

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News Item11/9/09 10:25 AM
Sherlock  Find all comments by Sherlock
GG ..you are in "GOOD" company..E,rrrr GG... are you in "GOOD" company?

SO...WHO REALLY CONTROLS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

Most Current Obedient Puppets in High Places...

ZIBIGNEW BRZEZINSKI
Member: Knights of Malta
Member: Bilderberg Group
Member: Council On Foreign Relations
Member: Trilaterial Commission
Advisor: Jesuit Georgetown University
Polish Roman Catholic Socialist-Communist
Professor: Columbia University, New York
Recruiter of Barry Soetoro, 1981
Creator of "Barack Hussein Obama"

GEORGE SOROS
Member: Council on Foreign Relations
Member: Carlyle Group
Multi-billionaire
Major Stockholder: Halliburton
Hungarian Jew: Socialist-Communist
Financial Backer of Barack Hussein Obama
Friend of Rupert Murdoch
Freemasonic Jewish Labor Zionist
"Court Jew for the Pope"

GG......"Double checkmate"!!!

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News Item11/9/09 9:19 AM
Sherlock  Find all comments by Sherlock
GG.....now who owns George Soros?

CGi's Lonestar: KNIGHTS OF MALTA: Initial Membership List ~ Who ...
16 posts - Last post: 16 Sep
The Knights of Malta are the Militia of the Pope and are sworn to total obedience by a ... GEORGE SOROS Member: Council on Foreign Relations ...
www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read... - Cached - Similar
Knight of Malta anyone? - Project Avalon Forum
24 posts - 9 authors - Last post: 24 Jan
Bill Gates is a Knight of Malta as was JC Penney for example. .... Friend of George Soros Occult Protector of Barack Hussein Obama ...
projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4872

on ANY map ALL roads lead to Rome
"checkmate"

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News Item11/9/09 9:02 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Now who owns Georgetown???
--- George Soros?

Shear-Luck: Don't look now but your Tin-foil helmet is showing. But, hey! How else can you get those new flashes from Venus. Still! The Black helicopters will not be pleased.

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News Item11/9/09 8:38 AM
Sherlock  Find all comments by Sherlock
GG & company.....
What it means to be Catholic?.................

Exposing the Muslim Lobby -
The book begins by exposing the countless U.S. Muslim leaders who masquerade as ... of the Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University, ... coordinate their schemes is revealed in a chapter entitled "The Muslim Mafia. ... and think tanks included—set up to launder terrorist-bound funds. ...
www.ilanamercer.com/Infiltration.htm -

Now who owns Georgetown???
................................
the answer is ...........
Georgetown University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Georgetown University is a Jesuit private university located in Georgetown, Washington, D.C. Father John Carroll founded the school in 1789, ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_University -

So much for higher education !
Perhaps the 3 leg stool has 4 legs???

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News Item11/9/09 7:47 AM
DisplacedMaritimer(Bert)  Find all comments by DisplacedMaritimer(Bert)
savedbygrace,

I for one would love to see your rebuttal of GG's comments.

Sherlock,

I will reply to your comments in the earlier thread. Doing so here would just complicate this thread, I think.

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News Item11/9/09 3:51 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Well Burke is insane for stating that O'Malley was under the influence of Satan just because O'Malley permitted Edward Moore Kennedy to have a Funeral Mass. Kennedy was a practicing Catholic and thus was entitled to have a Funeral Mass.
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News Item11/9/09 2:14 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
GG,

Nice try. These same foolish assertions have been rebutted over and over again. Once again, you may want to return to the earlier popish forums here on Sermon Audio. Or if you wish we may "once again" go over these one by one.

The false church of Rome.
Suffocating under the dome.

When it came to the Bible.
Infamous cult, chose to bridle.

Bible reading, today more lenient.
Becaue now it's more convenient.

They throw in the scare.
With - DON'T YOU DARE!

An attempt to explicate.
May result in excommunicate.

JOHN 3:36

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News Item11/8/09 11:11 PM
DisplacedMaritimer(Bert)  Find all comments by DisplacedMaritimer(Bert)
Sorry to disappoint you, Quillar, but satan is no friend of mine.

Led by the antichrist. – Cannot be proven one way or the other. Deceptive.
Idolatrous. – Categorically false. Can easily be proven false by a simple internet search. Deception.
Worshipper of graven images. – Ditto
Follower of man made dogmas and traditions - ADDED to Scripture. – NOTHING has been added to Scripture after the Catholic Church decided on her Canon.
Adulterous unto God and His Son. – Categorically false. Can easily be proven false by a simple internet search. Deception.
Advocate of the blasphemous mass – Categorically false. Can easily be proven false by a simple internet search. Deception.
Salvation by works. – Not by Works alone but by Faith AND Works. Read your Bible.
Justification by works. – Ditto..
Intellectual assent in lieu of true faith. – Either deception or evidence of a complete lack of understanding of the teachings of the Catholic Church.
Prays to dead sinners. – As per Sacred Scripture.(2 Macabees).
Worships icons, dead bones, bits of wood and other rediculous relics. – Either deception or evidence of a complete lack of understanding of the teachings of the Catholic Church. We worshipp the One True God *ONLY*.

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News Item11/8/09 10:22 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
* St Peter himself alludes to being in "Babylon", a code word for a powerful, and sinful city. Being present in Rome is the most reasonable reason for such secrecy.

* The writings of certain Church Fathers say flatly that Peter not only was in Rome, but died there. The Vatican can show you his bones. Hence, the story that he was Bishop of Rome.

* Catholicism's origins were in Judea at the time of Christ. The Fourth Century was the time that Constantine elevated the Roman Church to the status of the "State Religion".

* All power given to the RCC were granted by Jesus Christ in Matt 16. The RCC's foundations are on Jesus Christ and the 3-legged stool. 1)Bible 2)Teaching Magisterium 3)God's word in oral form, or Tradition (as opposed to Man' tradition-little t)

* The RCC jealously guarded God's people from error and only threatened those heretics who would not repent. The Mosaic Law put heretics to death by stoning. We at least gave them a chance to repent.

* The Catholic Church was responsible for the assemblying of the original Christian Bible and selected which books were allowed. She has always defened the Scriptures vehemetly and will not allow God's people to read incorrect or heretical texts.

* The remainder of "Sheer-luck's" post is sheer nonsense!

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News Item11/8/09 6:55 PM
Sherlock  Find all comments by Sherlock
An urgent plea to all Catholics....

The religious-political system known as the Roman Catholic Church began to take shape in the Fourth Century. As the years rolled by, the Roman church increasingly exercised power which was not delegated to her by God; and she increasingly promulgated unbiblical doctrine even as she persecuted those who obediently clung to the Word of God. Plainly stated, the pope and his underlings have been adversaries of God's revealed Word, the Bible. The Word of God and the word of the Roman church led by the pope are at direct odds with each other on many foundational issues, including, most critically, how one receives forgiveness of sin and salvation from God. It is impossible for one to be obedient to both the Roman church and the Bible, just as it is impossible to follow both the pope and Jesus.
found at
http://www.pccmonroe.org/Ecumenism/urgent.htm

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News Item11/8/09 4:48 PM
sherlock  Find all comments by sherlock
A Pope?????

.When the RCC said that JESUS named Peter the first pope ( not true ) the bible does
not even say that he was ever in Rome if there was to be a pope ....Paul would have
been a better choice for the bible does say he was in Rome.if you have
access to a catholic catechism you will find that they say Peter was in Rome and the way they get around this is they wrote in a book of someone or other... a made up name and they
call him a saint and say that Peter was in Rome.but it's a made up statement and not found in the bible .
I do hope that this may be of some help ..

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News Item11/8/09 2:57 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
It's anyone who takes part in the "magic" acts, called the sacraments, [URL=http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?bible3b.htm]]]The Sacraments (43-51)[/URL], anything else goes! [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/roman-catholicism/RC2W0502.pdf]]]A Catholic is a Catholic is a Catholic?[/URL].

Speaking of "father of lies"

John 8
44 "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature; for he is a liar, and the father of lies.
45 "But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me.
46 "Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me?
47 "He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God."---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

The whole Romish magisterium is covered by the above, [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/catholicscandal.htm]]]The Scandal of the Catholic Priesthood[/URL], including its leader, [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/90-291.htm]]]The Pope and the Papacy[/URL].

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