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Choice News WEDNESDAY, NOV 4, 2009  |  35 comments  |  3 commentaries
Ian McKellen 'Proudly' Rips Leviticus 18:22 Out of All Bibles
Note to hotel managers: unless you want it to be altered forever, remove that Bible from Sir Ian McKellen's bedside drawer before he shows up.

In a Q&A with Details magazine, the openly gay 'Lord of the Rings' star admits to a habit of tearing out the Bible passage that condemns homosexuality -- Leviticus 18:22 -- every time he finds one in his hotel room. The passage: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

"I'm not proudly defacing the book," he asserts, "but it's a choice between removing that page and throwing away the whole Bible." ...


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News Item11/18/09 2:19 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, Phoenixbrew, do you like the other stuff as well immediately following Leviticus 18:22?

Leviticus 18
22 'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
23 'Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion.
24 'Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

Perhaps this would help in your situation?

Matthew 18
12 "For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it."---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

Why Tony, you might find this interesting! [URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_unlearned_men.htm]]]The Unlearned Men:---The True Genealogy and Genesis of King-James-Version-Onlyism[/URL]

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News Item11/17/09 6:02 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
New Age version? Oh no, you been reading Riplinger's sorcery?
Well, bro, I'm sure you know any version can be misused and abused, even the oft idolized AV, which due to its being around longer, has been misused more.
Mike NY, you should know bro, that if you want to understand the ins and outs of a cadillac you need to do some reading, not of men writing about cadillacs, but from the men who make the cadillacs, and the cadillac itself.

The only way you will ever understand the insidiousness of new age thinking is to read what they themselves have put in print. Understand their own peculiar religious views, their expressions, their aims, their evil intentions.

I can promise you bro, that if you will take the time to do that, you will be better equipped to clearly see the language being used in some modern Bibles, and the direction this is all going.

Another interesting, and scary, study worth the effort, is to see just what wiccas, sorcerors and the like, believe. Not only believe in the 'religious' sense, but what they believe they can do with importunity and without comeback, and with 'perfect righteousness'.

Sure we'll get there before spring.

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News Item11/17/09 5:11 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
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And I will be this winter explaining why I believe the NASB to be a NEW AGE VERSION of the 'Bible' and therefore most dangerous, deceptive, and inevitably will lead people away from true Christianity, and maybe even into apostasy.
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New Age version? Oh no, you been reading Riplinger's sorcery?

Well, bro, I'm sure you know any version can be misused and abused, even the oft idolized AV, which due to its being around longer, has been misused more.

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News Item11/17/09 3:17 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Mr Jim sloppy-expositor Lincoln.

I challenge you to properly explain the following verse of God's Holy Word, and then you can explain why you relate it to the Bible Version Debate.

Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
1 Corinthians 14:11 KJV

I haven't forgotten my promise to Mike New York.

And I will be this winter explaining why I believe the NASB to be a NEW AGE VERSION of the 'Bible' and therefore most dangerous, deceptive, and inevitably will lead people away from true Christianity, and maybe even into apostasy.

You'll need to be doing a lot of two-eyebrow raisin, me ol' parsnip. And you'll be needin plenty of carrot juice if you want to keep up with the pace.

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News Item11/17/09 3:03 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Where's you're proof Tony? Other than a Catholic blind devotion to Sardis Bible from a Laodicean church. As I've pointed out, I only raise one eyebrow when a person says he prefers the [A]nglican [V]ersion. I raise two eyebrows when they say they think it's better than the other versions, but much that is advocated here by the extremists in the [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Only_movement]]]King James Only movement[/URL] is Twilight Zone material.

Oh, well, people who really know,

I Corinthians 14
11 If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

[URL=http://www.dbts.edu/journals/1996_2/Preface.pdf]]] The Preface to the King James Version And the King James Only position[/URL]

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News Item11/10/09 5:00 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Reuben wrote:
The King James Bible is the ONLY accurate and God-honoring Bible in the English language. Every single modern version is either based on corrupted Greek manuscripts or translated utilizing the ungodly dynamic equivalence methodology. There is not ONE single modern version that is even close to being accurate. That includes the NKJV. May the Lord Jesus Christ open your eyes to this very important topic.
Amen ! Reuben. Thanks For Answering The Authorized "King James" Holy Bible APOSTATES, Jim Lincoln & Co., Regarding The Historic AUTHORIZED English Translation (1611-Present) Of THE One-&-ONLY AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE-SCRIPTURES !

Those English Holy Bible APOSTATES Just Don't Get It !

It's NOT About The "Thees & Thous" Or The Falsely Perceived So-Called "Archaic" English Used In THE Historic AUTHORIZED ENGLISH VERSION-BIBLE: It's About The Historic GOD-Preserved Manuscriptural AUTHORITY, EVIDENCE & Divine HOLY-SPIRITUAL PERPETUITY Behind The VERY Spoken & Written WORD(S) Of ALMIGHTY GOD !

Those Spiritual & Psychological Subverted Souls, Like Jim Lincoln & Co., Are Only BELIEVING, PREACHING & PIMPING The Satanic Vatican's "Jesuit" CONSPIRACY & APOSTASY From THE HISTORIC "PROTESTANT" ENGLISH AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE:

THE KJ(V)-BIBLE ! ! !

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News Item11/10/09 4:02 PM
welchnation | Seattle, WA  Find all comments by welchnation
I hope he rips out Rev 22.19 too!
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News Item11/9/09 12:41 PM
Reuben | Canada  Find all comments by Reuben
The King James Bible is the ONLY accurate and God-honoring Bible in the English language. Every single modern version is either based on corrupted Greek manuscripts or translated utilizing the ungodly dynamic equivalence methodology. There is not ONE single modern version that is even close to being accurate. That includes the NKJV. May the Lord Jesus Christ open your eyes to this very important topic.
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News Item11/9/09 2:42 AM
phoenixbrew  Find all comments by phoenixbrew
Good for Mr. McKellen! I think he's great!
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News Item11/9/09 12:04 AM
Whale In The Desert | Central West NSW  Find all comments by Whale In The Desert
Mr.Ian McKellen,you have done a bad bad thing.Start running son.
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News Item11/8/09 7:13 PM
Steamroller | Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by Steamroller
I Guess Mr.(?) McKellen better tear out the parts about tearing out parts of the Bible too. Bye, bye Reveltions 22:19 & Deuteronomy 4:2! How about that verse that said you would receive in your body the due recompense for your lying with men as with women Rom. 1:27? Would you tear that out too? Doesn't change things if you do. As Christ said, "Heaven and earth may pass away but my words shall never pass away (Matt. 24:35)," and Christ was the word of God who was with God and was God and came down and dwelt among us (John 1:1 & 14) so He should know. Ask those who have tried burning Bibles and failed to extinguish that Word.
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News Item11/6/09 6:10 PM
Publican | Northern Hemisphere  Find all comments by Publican
How perversely childish and petty. I wonder if he screams at the bible whose pages he is tearing out.

I'm not sure how I would interpret the actions of someone who sent me 40 pages (of any type) of literature that denounced my activities as abominable.

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News Item11/6/09 2:10 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Tony, I thought you have gotten over that nonsense of [URL=http://www.raptureme.com/rr-kjvo.html]]]King James Onlyism[/URL], It's obvious since the KJV translators weren't Christians, because they were a part of [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism]]]Anglicanism[/URL] They knew that there were going to be Bibles put into contemporary English, which they almost did. As those Translators pointed out,
1Corintians 14:11 If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me. ---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]
[URL=http://www.dbts.edu/journals/1996_2/Preface.pdf]]] The Preface to the King James Version And the King James Only position[/URL].

Switching adoration from Mary to the [A]nglican [V]ersion isn't Protestant. I would suggest that AVers should answer [URL=http://www.kjv-only.com/kjvoques.html]]]10 Questions for KJV-only Supporters[/URL]

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News Item11/6/09 10:25 AM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Bill Grimes wrote:
We should expect nothing less from Sir Ian. I pity him in the light of the judgments pronounced by the Word of God. (See Romans 1:18ff) There's a bumper sticker that used to be popular here in the states that goes like this. God said it. I believe it. (This phrase is irrelevant.) That settles it. Sir Ian's actions are a bit like that middle phrase. It only needs to say. God said it. That settles it. I would say to Sir Ian that the books out of which he will be judged on the Last Day will all have that page in them, and he'll have no say in the matter.
Bill Grimes: Jim Lincoln & OTHER Authorized-English-Holy-Bible APOSTATES Are ALSO Under The Same &-Or WORSE Judgement Of Almighty GOD; According To The Historic Authorized Holy Bible ITSELF:

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18-19

The NASV-B Has Chopped-Out, Removed & Ripped-Out 1 John 5:7 !

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News Item11/6/09 9:44 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
One day God will rip "Surly" Ian from the memory of mankind and cast him into the darkness.
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News Item11/6/09 9:19 AM
Bill Grimes | Lawrencville, GA  Find all comments by Bill Grimes
We should expect nothing less from Sir Ian. I pity him in the light of the judgments pronounced by the Word of God.
(See Romans 1:18ff)

There's a bumper sticker that used to be popular here in the states that goes like this.

God said it.
I believe it. (This phrase is irrelevant.)
That settles it.

Sir Ian's actions are a bit like that middle phrase. It only needs to say.

God said it.
That settles it.

I would say to Sir Ian that the books out of which he will be judged on the Last Day will all have that page in them, and he'll have no say in the matter.

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News Item11/5/09 8:14 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Bill Diller wrote:
BTW, I must point out that the quote is not what the KJV translators said.

What they actually said was:

"Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me."

EXACTLY !

Even Authorized-Biblical APOSTATES' Broken-Textual-Critical-Clocks May Be Right Twice In A Day !

And If The Authorized-Holy-Bible APOSTATES, Like "Jim Lincoln", Would ONLY Directly Quote From The Authorized Holy Bible-Scriptures THEMSELVES (That Is THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE) The EXACT Words Of The "King James" Bible Translators & NOT The Per-Versions Like The NASB, NIV, ETC.;

They Would PRECISELY QUOTE:

"Therefore If I Know Not The Meaning Of The Voice, I Shall Be Unto Him That Speaketh A Barbarian, And He That Speaketh Shall Be A Barbarian Unto Me." 1 Corinthians 14:11 (Authorized English "King James" Holy Bible-Scriptures Or KJV-B) !

But The FACT Of The Matter Is:

That "Jim Lincoln" & His Ilk Of Anti-Authorized-Holy-Bible APOSTATES Are NO DIFFERENT Than Rabid-Reprobate SODOMITES Like "Ian McKellen" !

**They BOTH Advocate RIPPING Verses From THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE !

The EVIL SODOMITES: Leviticus 18:22 !

The KJV-B APOSTATES: 1 John 5:7 !

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News Item11/5/09 5:35 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine? And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped? For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air. There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification. Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
1 Corinthians 14:5-11 KJV

Context Jim, context!

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News Item11/5/09 5:18 PM
Bill Diller | Nebraska  Find all comments by Bill Diller
Jim Lincoln wrote:
I have no doubt that many pastors past and present like/liked the Anglican Bible, because they could act like a priest in translating it, for the peasants, and they could spend half their time doing that instead of preaching a fuller sermon.
1Corintians 14:11 If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]
The above was expressed by the translators.
Jim, thanks for pointing out (by inference) that Nebraskans are not peasants - we are all fluent in Greek and Hebrew, and preach full sermons from our NASBs!

BTW, I must point out that the quote is not what the KJV translators said. What they actually said was:

"Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me."

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News Item11/5/09 3:03 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Mr. Authorized Holy Bible APOSTATE (Jim Lincoln): Erasmus Was As Much A Dedicated Pre-Council-Of-Trent (That Is, A Pre-Satanic-Vaticanist "JESUIT" Controlled-Council-Of-Trent) Roman-"Catholic" As My Ancestor, Francisco Jimenez-Cisneros, Was: Or As Martin Luther Was, Or As John Calvin Was, Or As ALL The Pre/Post 1517 ROMAN-"CATHOLIC" PROTESTANT REFORMERS Were !

The Only Difference Between ERASMUS & CISNEROS And The OTHER Roman-"Catholic" Protestant Reformers (LUTHER, CALVIN, ZWINGLI, ETC.) Was That THEY (ERASMUS & CISNEROS) REMAINED Within THE ROMAN-"CATHOLIC"-RELIGION-INSTITUTION-SYSTEM-CULT; And Attempted To "Morally" &-Or "Academically" REFORM The ROMAN-"CATHOLIC"-CULT From The INSIDE: Whereas The OTHER Roman-"Catholic" Protestant Reformers (LUTHER, CALVIN, ETC.) Made A TOTAL BREAK From The ROMAN-"CATHOLIC"-CULT To Found TRUE (Roman-"Catholic") Reformed PROTESTANT CHURCHES: As Lutherans, Anglicans, Etc. Alway Called & Considered Themselves "SOLA-ESCRITURA" CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN CHURCHES, BELIEVERS, PRIESTS (PRIESTHOOD OF ALL BELIEVERS), SAINTS (ALL BELIEVERS AS SAINTS), ETC. !

**But ALL Roman-"Catholic" PROTESTANT REFORMERS Stood UNEQUIVOCALLY On The HEBREW & GREEK "TEXTUS RECEPTUS": THAT IS, THE HEBREW-MASORETIC-TEXT & THE GREEK-BYZANTINE-TEXT OF THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE !

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