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FRONT PAGE  |  10/20/2019
FRIDAY, AUG 21, 2009  |  33 comments
'Traditionalist Catholics' attack, expel Christians
‚ÄúTraditionalist Catholic‚ÄĚ leaders last month expelled 57 evangelical Christians from towns in two states for refusing to participate in their religious festivals.

Leaders of traditionalist Catholicism, a mixture of Roman Catholicism and native rituals, expelled 32 Christians from their homes in a village in Hidalgo state and another 25 from a town in Oaxaca; in each case, the evangelicals were deprived of their property for refusing to participate in drunken festivals that included worship of Catholic icons. ...


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News Item9/2/09 2:27 AM
WayneM | northwest B.C.  Find all comments by WayneM
Bert,

The other apostles did not recognize Peter as their chief. They sent Peter to Samaria to preach. (Acts 8:14)

The Apostle Paul did not believe Peter was the chief apostle.

Paul mentioned Peter but never with any special title, such as Vicar or Pope or above any of the other apostles.

Paul taught that those who follow Peter or any other persons were guilty of causing division.

"Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" 1 Cor. 1:12, 13

Paul was an apostle to Rome, not Peter. (Paul's Epistle to the Romans)
see Romans 1:5-7

Paul said "for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles, though I be nothing. Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders and mighty deeds." 2 Cor.12:11b, 12.

The apostles Paul and Barnabas also performed signs and wonders. "...and granted signs and wonders to be done by their hands," Acts 14:3b

Paul healed a crippled man at Lystra. (Acts 14:8-10)

Paul clearly denied Peter was a Pope and maintained what Peter was to the Jews, he was to the Gentiles. (Gal.2:7,8)

Paul rebuked Peter. Gal. 2:11 No mention of Pope.

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News Item8/25/09 7:46 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
"Mike": You're Right In Saying GERONIMO Became A Christian Late In Life (He Even Joined THE DUTCH REFORMED CHURCH in 1903)--But The Accusations & Satanic-Vaticanist Charges Of "Hatred For Humans" STILL STANDS: As One CANNOT Rightly Fault & Man For "Killing The Enemy" When He's Fighting For His Life & Nation's Survival; Be It In Self-Defense Or The "Taking Of A Man's Life" In Physical WARFARE !

Neil: Wikipedia Says:

" Later In Life, GERONIMO Embraced (BIBLE) CHRISTIANITY (NOT SATANIC VATICANISM), And Stated, ' Since My Life As A Prisoner Has Begun I Have Heard The Teachings Of The White Man's Religion, And In MANY Respects BELIEVE IT To Be BETTER THAN The Religion Of MY FATHERS...Believing That IN A WISE WAY It Is GOOD To GO TO CHURCH (NOT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CULT), And That Associating With (Bible) Christians Would Improve My Character, I HAVE ADOPTED THE (BIBLE) CHRISTIAN RELIGION. I Believe That The (Bible) Church Has Helped Me MUCH During The Short Time I Have Been A MEMBER. I AM NOT ASHAMED TO BE A (BIBLE) CHRISTIAN, AND I AM GLAD TO KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT (TEDDY ROOSEVELT)...IS A (BIBLE) CHRISTIAN...I HAVE ADVISED ALL OF MY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT (BIBLE) CHRISTIANS, TO STUDY (THE BIBLE OF) THAT RELIGION, BECAUSE IT('S)...THE BEST RELIGION...ENABLING ONE TO LIVE RIGHT.' " !

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News Item8/25/09 7:42 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
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"Mike", You're Avoiding THE POINT I Made On My Comment(s)--And Bring Attention To The FALSE SATANIC-VATICANIST CHARGE Of "Hatred For Humans" AGAINST GERONIMO--Who LOVED (MEXICANS & ALL) PEOPLE IN GENERAL: Having U.S. AMERICAN-INDIAN & MEXICAN-INDIAN DESCENDANTS That I'VE PERSONALLY MET !
Nothing Satanic-Vaticanist about it, Tony. Geronimo became a Christian late in life, after his surrender. Before that, he had little love for Americans, and less for Mexicans, who btw, gave him the name Geronimo.
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News Item8/25/09 7:18 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Geronimo's faith according to Wikipedia: [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geronimo#Religion]]]Geronimo (Religion)[/URL]
The quote of Geronimo's reasons for believing is not encouraging.

Now some accuse Wikipedia of being an unreliable source. Compared to Tony though, that's a tough call.

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News Item8/25/09 6:42 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Mike wrote:
Geronimo must have changed greatly, for he had a well-known hatred for Mexicans, some of whom killed his mother, wife, and children.
There was NO Change In The Great GERONIMO'S Character At All, "Mike / New York"; As You Are Confusing GERONIMO'S Hatred For The SIN Of Murder With Hatred For The SINNER Who Commits The SIN Of Murder--As The Great Biblical Literalist Judeo-Christian Saint, GERONIMO, Always LOVED The SINNER: But HATED The SIN !

Albeit, He GREATLY LOVED His OWN PEOPLE & "NATION"--And Fought To THE DEATH To Ensure Their SURVIVAL & PRESENT DAY EXISTENCE: Like The AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL LITERAL HEBREW Father & PATRIARCH Of The 12 TRIBES Of ISRAEL-JACOB Of Old;

The GREAT FRIEND Of ALMIGHTY GOD:

FATHER ABRAHAM !

GERONIMO Greatly Loved ALL Men; Including The Wicked, Evil & Ungodly "White" Men Who All But Destroyed His PEOPLE & Confined His "NATION" To U.S. Govenment Sanctioned/Sponsored "CONCENTRATION CAMPS": Commonly Called "RESERVATIONS"!

"Mike", You're Avoiding THE POINT I Made On My Comment(s)--And Bring Attention To The FALSE SATANIC-VATICANIST CHARGE Of "Hatred For Humans" AGAINST GERONIMO--Who LOVED (MEXICANS & ALL) PEOPLE IN GENERAL: Having U.S. AMERICAN-INDIAN & MEXICAN-INDIAN DESCENDANTS That I'VE PERSONALLY MET !

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News Item8/25/09 2:32 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
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The Young Mexican-Indian Damsel, Whose "Quinceanera" or "Coming Out" Party (The Word "Quinceanera" Comes From The Spanish Word For The Number "15" or "Quince"--As "Quinceaneras" Are EQUAL To Our U.S. American "SWEET 16 PARTIES") Was "QUASHED", Is MOST LIKELY A Physical Blood-Descendant Of The Great AMERICAN-INDIAN (& Biblical Literalist Historic Convert To Judeo-Christianity) GERONIMO: As Alejandra Dorotea Geronimo Has The Surname GERONIMO !
In The Early 1980s, Before Attending Bob Jones University; I Personally Met Several Of The Descendants Of GERONIMO From MEXICO At Evangelical New Baptist Church, Chicago, IL.
The Great GERONIMO Had Many Descendants, Not Only In The U.S.A.; But ALSO In MEXICO !
He Was A GREATLY BLESSED CHRISTIAN SAINT. WHO INSTRUCTED HIS DESCENDANTS TO FOLLOW THE WAYS OF TRUTH AS REVEALED IN THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE-SCRIPTURES !
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Geronimo must have changed greatly, for he had a well-known hatred for Mexicans, some of whom killed his mother, wife, and children.
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News Item8/25/09 2:16 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Yes, June, we have quite a few ex-Roman Catholics, one I believe on the board of elders, who came to the realization about Christ. Another ex-priest, also had some good commentary about his URL=http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/bart.htm]]]Pilgrimage From Rome[/URL].
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News Item8/25/09 11:40 AM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Another Interesting Note In The Historic Significance Of This Traditionalist Satanic-Vaticanist/Roman-"Catholic"-CULTIC Tyranny, Infamy & Totalitarianism In MEXICO:

The Young Mexican-Indian Damsel, Whose "Quinceanera" or "Coming Out" Party (The Word "Quinceanera" Comes From The Spanish Word For The Number "15" or "Quince"--As "Quinceaneras" Are EQUAL To Our U.S. American "SWEET 16 PARTIES") Was "QUASHED", Is MOST LIKELY A Physical Blood-Descendant Of The Great AMERICAN-INDIAN (& Biblical Literalist Historic Convert To Judeo-Christianity) GERONIMO: As Alejandra Dorotea Geronimo Has The Surname GERONIMO !

In The Early 1980s, Before Attending Bob Jones University; I Personally Met Several Of The Descendants Of GERONIMO From MEXICO At Evangelical New Baptist Church, Chicago, IL.

The Great GERONIMO Had Many Descendants, Not Only In The U.S.A.; But ALSO In MEXICO !

He Was A GREATLY BLESSED CHRISTIAN SAINT. WHO INSTRUCTED HIS DESCENDANTS TO FOLLOW THE WAYS OF TRUTH AS REVEALED IN THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE-SCRIPTURES !

THE SATANIC-VATICAN HATES GERONIMO & HIS DESCENDANTS WITH A PASSION !

AS THIS EXPLAINS WHY THE SATANIC-VATICAN "JESUITS" HAVE DESECRATED GERONIMO'S GRAVE: DISPLAYING, WITH DEVILISH & DEMONIC DELIGHT, HIS VERY "SKULL" VIA THE "SKULL & BONES" BUSH FAMILY !

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News Item8/24/09 4:53 PM
SmallTownGuy (WayneM) | northwest B.C.  Find all comments by SmallTownGuy (WayneM)
Bert,

Loraine Boettner also said "Back of Rome's insistence on the perpetual virginity of Mary, of course is the desire to justify the celibate state of the priests and nuns, Rome teaches that the single state is holier than the married state, that there is something inherently unclean and defiling about marriage. Says one RC writer concerning the Virgin Mary: 'It cannot with decency be imagined that the most holy vessel which was once consecrated to be a receptacle of the Deity should be afterwards desecrated and profaned by human usage.' According to this teaching a woman's body is "desecrated and profaned" when she becomes a mother in the normal course of family life! A nun is holier than the mother of lovely children! And since Rome thinks of marriage as unholy and unclean, and since she has set herself to maintain the holiness, even the sinless perfection, of Mary, she finds herself obliged to teach that Mary always remained a virgin. Unquote.

Interestly, two books of the N.T., James and Jude, were written by sons of Joseph and Mary! Luke's statement concerning Mary and the birth of Jesus was "And she brought forth her firstborn son" Luke 2:7

Mark ch.6 shows there were other children in the family of Joseph and Mary.

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News Item8/24/09 9:22 AM
June | USA  Find all comments by June
John Groetz wrote to me:

"Boy some people are slow"
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Perhaps John, but maybe the Lord is testing your patience with me in this matter. At any rate I've been called worse things than "slow".

Still, I remain confused and whatever you're trying to convey is losing something in the translation.

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News Item8/24/09 3:35 AM
John O'Groetz  Find all comments by John O'Groetz
June wrote:
John O'Groetz wrote to me:
look up "sarcasm"
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Still confused John . .
Why not say it in the plainest of terms, as for some reason, whatever you're trying to convey is losing something in the translation.
I await your response . . for this you will need the patience of Job!
boy,some people are slow
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News Item8/23/09 12:58 PM
June | USA  Find all comments by June
John O'Groetz wrote to me:

look up "sarcasm"

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Still confused John . .
Why not say it in the plainest of terms, as for some reason, whatever you're trying to convey is losing something in the translation.

I await your response . . for this you will need the patience of Job!

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News Item8/23/09 4:29 AM
John O'Groetz  Find all comments by John O'Groetz
June wrote:
KW III said:
"I'm sure June will be just delirious to know that an idolatrous apostate is praising her LOL"
I'm not sure what you mean by your remark . . at any rate, I'm not looking for the praise of any man.
look up "sarcasm"
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News Item8/22/09 9:06 PM
Bjohnny  Find all comments by Bjohnny
[QUOTE]but it's the Catholic people who remain faithful to God's Truth.[/QUOTE]They don't even know what the truth is, only what they have been decieved into believing is the truth.
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News Item8/22/09 5:28 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
After Reading The WHOLE Article; The Various Names Of The People & Places Involved/Connected With This Horrid Satanic-Vaticanist Inspired & Sponsored Persecution Of Biblical-Literalist Christians In Mexico Was VERY Revelatory Indeed:

#1.Hidalgo

#2.Oaxaca

#3.Benito Juarez School (Where The Expelled Group; 2 Infants, 4 small children, Several Older Adults First Took Refuge); Being A School Named After OAXACAN-INDIAN-BLOOD-NATIVE-BORN MEXICAN PRESIDENT, BENITO JUAREZ: WHO NOT ONLY STUDIED TO BE A SATANIC-VATICANIST PRIEST--BUT LATER ABANDONED THOSE PLANS TO ENTER MEXICAN POLITICS--BECOMING THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF MEXICO: LEADING MEXICO'S STRUGGLE & LIBERATION (ALA "CINCO DE MAYO") FROM THE SATANIC-VATICAN BACKED AUSTRIAN-FRENCH FORCES OF THE INVADING & OCCUPYING "EMPIRE OF MEXICO" UNDER THE EUROPEAN-BANKSTER-GANGTER "ROTHCHILD'S" MEXICAN POLITICAL-PUPPETS EMPEROR MAXIMELLIEN & CHARLOTA !

JUAREZ WAS ASSASSINATED BY THE "JESUITS" OF ROME IN MEXICO:

AS ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS ASSASSINATED BY THE "JESUITS" OF ROME IN THE U.S.A. !

LINCOLN & JUAREZ WERE PERSONAL FRIENDS AND COMMUNICATED WITH EACH OTHER IN THE 1860S !

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News Item8/22/09 5:03 PM
SmallTownGuy (WayneM) | northwest B.C.  Find all comments by SmallTownGuy (WayneM)
June wrote:
...June, a sinner by birth, a Catholic by tradition, but by God's grace, made a CHRISTIAN by virtue of the new birth through the work of the Holy Spirit to the praise & glory of Him alone!
Eph. 2:8-9; John 3:3-8; 1 Pet. 1:18-25; James 1:17-18; Titus 3:3-7
Amen!
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News Item8/22/09 4:34 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
My Maternal Grand-Father Came From That State/Government Sponsored So-Called "Traditionalist Roman 'Catholic' Type Of Fanatical Satanic Vaticanism In Mexico !

I am NOT Surprised That The Evangelical Christians Weren't Massacred & Murdered,; As They Were During The Mexican Revolutionary Days Of The 1800s & 1900s--ALL Sanctioned & Approved By The Satanic Roman "Catholic" Cult Of Popish "Jesuitic" Vaticanism In Mexico: aka Government/State Sponsored Satanic Vaticanism In Mexico !

If One Reads The WHOLE News Article; One Will Find Out That Very Interesting Names; With Notable Historic Significances Are Mentioned.

#1. Hidalgo state: Named After The Famous REBEL Roman "Catholic" Priest & HIDALGO DE LAS COSTILLAS: "Father" Of Mexico's Independence From Spain.

#2.Oaxaca state: Named After The OAXACA "Indian" Tribe

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News Item8/22/09 3:14 PM
June | USA  Find all comments by June
Yes Jim, and as another former Catholic/R.C. Priest, Richard Bennett, has pointed out in his article:
'The Normal Christian Life & Catholicism' at www.bereanbeacon.org

"Catholicism can deceive peoples & nations no further & no longer than God will permit. The folly shall be finally manifested, it shall appear that it is the supreme example of‚Äúhaving a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof‚ÄĚ. (2 Tim.3:5)

Many thousands of us have come out of Catholicism to normal Christian life. God’s truth, as we see in Scripture, makes it clear you cannot be right before God & remain true to Catholic teaching, since they contradict & oppose the truth of the Bible on the essential factor of how we enter into a relationship with Him.

You may cling to such teachings & traditions to your own eternal peril. Or you may do what so many of us have done before you. Turn to God in faith alone for the salvation that He alone gives, by the conviction of the Holy Spirit, based on Christ‚Äôs death and resurrection for His own, and believe on Him alone, ‚Äúto the praise of the glory of his grace.‚ÄĚ (Eph. 1:6)

June, a Christian . . "But by the grace of God I am what I am"
(1 Cor.15:10a)

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News Item8/22/09 2:29 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
June, as a well-known former Catholic pointed out, [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/roman-catholicism/RC1105W3.htm]]]Should Roman Catholicism really be classified as a Christian religion? -- No.[/URL].

On the matter of Catholic child abuse in Ireland you can go to a completely secular source, the BBC.

[URL=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8059826.stm]]] Irish church knew abuse 'endemic'[/URL].

I hope many Irish Catholics are asking the questions, [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/roman-catholicism/RC1299W2.htm]]]Is A Catholic Christian An Oxymoron?[/URL] and [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/roman-catholicism/RC1W0902.pdf]]]Is the One True Church Roman Catholic?[/URL]

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News Item8/22/09 1:45 PM
June | USA  Find all comments by June
KW III said:
"I'm sure June will be just delirious to know that an idolatrous apostate is praising her LOL"

I'm not sure what you mean by your remark . . at any rate, I'm not looking for the praise of any man.

Speaking the TRUTH just naturally grinds at those who are deceived by the R.C.C., the "MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." Rev. 17:5

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Eph. 6:15

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June, a sinner by birth, a Catholic by tradition, but by God's grace, made a CHRISTIAN by virtue of the new birth through the work of the Holy Spirit to the praise & glory of Him alone!
Eph. 2:8-9; John 3:3-8; 1 Pet. 1:18-25; James 1:17-18; Titus 3:3-7

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